Saphra Deden wrote...
How can you say Tali isn't into experimenting?
I'd say Liara makes sense as a second love interest because she's probably okay with cheating and sleeping around as long as you are upfront about it (at least with her).
It's less experimenting and general, and more about Shepard in particular.Saphra Deden wrote...
How can you say Tali isn't into experimenting?
Imagine Liara on Jerry Springer.AdmiralCheez wrote...
Yeah, sure, why not?
I mean, hell, if nobody's got STDs or having a baby...
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Random citizen wrote...
Then its not cheating is it? Cheating requires deception and violating the mutual agreements/rules of a relationship.
That just makes it fun.DiebytheSword wrote...
These things can only work in a situation as I described, I think Jealousy becomes too much of a factor for a situation where one person loves two and that love is not shared between the two objects of affection. A tightrope walk indeed.
Dean_the_Young wrote...
It's less experimenting and general, and more about Shepard in particular.Saphra Deden wrote...
How can you say Tali isn't into experimenting?
Saphra Deden wrote...
Random citizen wrote...
Then its not cheating is it? Cheating requires deception and violating the mutual agreements/rules of a relationship.
You might not be cheating on Liara but you'd be cheating on the other person.
Even if she did catch you cheating I imagine she would still be okay with it if you apologized for going at it behind her back... but then invited her to join.
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Though if you meant the post before that, I fake-thought that it was insulting that you hadn't laughed at other posts of mine just as much.
Not really. There are a lot of times in life when you might be attracted to an individual, but not the group that individual is a part of. I'm not attracted to women in military uniforms, for example, but there was one time a certain lady caught my eye.Random citizen wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
It's less experimenting and general, and more about Shepard in particular.Saphra Deden wrote...
How can you say Tali isn't into experimenting?
Its pretty much an example of two sides of the same thing dont you think?
Saphra Deden wrote...
Random citizen wrote...
Then its not cheating is it? Cheating requires deception and violating the mutual agreements/rules of a relationship.
You might not be cheating on Liara but you'd be cheating on the other person.
Even if she did catch you cheating I imagine she would still be okay with it if you apologized for going at it behind her back... but then invited her to join.
No problem. I lean towards dry humor, but that doesn't always carry well on the internet.PrimalEden wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Though if you meant the post before that, I fake-thought that it was insulting that you hadn't laughed at other posts of mine just as much.
Ah. Am a little slow on the uptake Dean, so I tend to misunderstand a lot of the intention in posts.
Agreed.Anyway, to keep from going too off-topic, I agree with you on some characters like Kelly and Liara being more likely while others just simply would not fit in one with their personality conflicts. There would also be some issues with the players becoming jealous too and going back to their ME2 save and conveniently "losing" said competition.
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Not really. There are a lot of times in life when you might be attracted to an individual, but not the group that individual is a part of. I'm not attracted to women in military uniforms, for example, but there was one time a certain lady caught my eye.Random citizen wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
It's less experimenting and general, and more about Shepard in particular.Saphra Deden wrote...
How can you say Tali isn't into experimenting?
Its pretty much an example of two sides of the same thing dont you think?
'Exception that proves the rule' more than 'broader acceptance.'
AdmiralCheez wrote...
That just makes it fun.DiebytheSword wrote...
These things can only work in a situation as I described, I think Jealousy becomes too much of a factor for a situation where one person loves two and that love is not shared between the two objects of affection. A tightrope walk indeed.
Seriously, though, I'd never enter into a polyamorous relationship if it was just setting up for someone to get hurt. Same goes for (most of) my Shepards.
I've differing viewpoint, but that may be because I've been 'burned' by excessive experimentation in other respects.Random citizen wrote...
I am more talking about that you tend to voluntarily or intrinically experiment with things you enjoy. Its generally true for all types of play (intrinsicly motivated activities).
DiebytheSword wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
That just makes it fun.DiebytheSword wrote...
These things can only work in a situation as I described, I think Jealousy becomes too much of a factor for a situation where one person loves two and that love is not shared between the two objects of affection. A tightrope walk indeed.
Seriously, though, I'd never enter into a polyamorous relationship if it was just setting up for someone to get hurt. Same goes for (most of) my Shepards.
Exactly my point, I believe these kinds of relationships are doomed to failure.
Dean_the_Young wrote...
No problem. I lean towards dry humor, but that doesn't always carry well on the internet.PrimalEden wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Though if you meant the post before that, I fake-thought that it was insulting that you hadn't laughed at other posts of mine just as much.
Ah. Am a little slow on the uptake Dean, so I tend to misunderstand a lot of the intention in posts.
Is that why we started off rather roughly? Misunderstanding?Agreed.Anyway, to keep from going too off-topic, I agree with you on some characters like Kelly and Liara being more likely while others just simply would not fit in one with their personality conflicts. There would also be some issues with the players becoming jealous too and going back to their ME2 save and conveniently "losing" said competition.
The problem of any relationships-in-gaming is that they need to be structured. Two-person relationships are intrensically easy (only the player and the character, usually), but when anyone else is available it gets really hard if it isn't either really general or scripted.
In a sense, the ME1 love triangle was mostly scripted: if you didn't outright turn down Liara and/or the Human LI, they both were 'charmed.'
Tell you what.PrimalEden wrote...
In a way, the ME1 love triangle makes sense. Some people need an outright, flat refusal to understand there is no romantic interest. Love can give one selective hearing. But I would really like to see consequences for Shepard trying to juggle affairs with multiple people. If Femshep tried to have both Kaiden and Liara in ME1, then had Kelly, and an ME2 LI while maintaining the ME1 LI, would it be too complicated for developers to-nah, it's too silly to waste time on.
I'm a pretty moral person, once you get to know me (and realize that arguing against an accusation isn't the same as justifying the subject being defended).:huh:This is weird, us getting along....I swear you are the only person I have gone from utter dislike to fond admiration. I don't know if I like this...
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Dean_the_Young wrote...
Tell you what.PrimalEden wrote...
In a way, the ME1 love triangle makes sense. Some people need an outright, flat refusal to understand there is no romantic interest. Love can give one selective hearing. But I would really like to see consequences for Shepard trying to juggle affairs with multiple people. If Femshep tried to have both Kaiden and Liara in ME1, then had Kelly, and an ME2 LI while maintaining the ME1 LI, would it be too complicated for developers to-nah, it's too silly to waste time on.
When Japan makes a high-school anime out of Mass Effect, and then an interactive visual-novel, I'm sure they'll include the harem route.I'm a pretty moral person, once you get to know me (and realize that arguing against an accusation isn't the same as justifying the subject being defended).:huh:This is weird, us getting along....I swear you are the only person I have gone from utter dislike to fond admiration. I don't know if I like this...
I'm intelligent, thoughtful, usually even tempered, try to avoid personal attacks, am willing to concede when I'm mistaken in facts or even calm logic, have an appreciation for wit, a talent for world-building, and am capable of outlining solutions or alternatives rather than simply critizing what I don't like.
I'm also quite humble.
PrimalEden wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
No problem. I lean towards dry humor, but that doesn't always carry well on the internet.PrimalEden wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Though if you meant the post before that, I fake-thought that it was insulting that you hadn't laughed at other posts of mine just as much.
Ah. Am a little slow on the uptake Dean, so I tend to misunderstand a lot of the intention in posts.
Is that why we started off rather roughly? Misunderstanding?Agreed.Anyway, to keep from going too off-topic, I agree with you on some characters like Kelly and Liara being more likely while others just simply would not fit in one with their personality conflicts. There would also be some issues with the players becoming jealous too and going back to their ME2 save and conveniently "losing" said competition.
The problem of any relationships-in-gaming is that they need to be structured. Two-person relationships are intrensically easy (only the player and the character, usually), but when anyone else is available it gets really hard if it isn't either really general or scripted.
In a sense, the ME1 love triangle was mostly scripted: if you didn't outright turn down Liara and/or the Human LI, they both were 'charmed.'
In a way, the ME1 love triangle makes sense. Some people need an outright, flat refusal to understand there is no romantic interest. Love can give one selective hearing. But I would really like to see consequences for Shepard trying to juggle affairs with multiple people. If Femshep tried to have both Kaiden and Liara in ME1, then had Kelly, and an ME2 LI while maintaining the ME1 LI, would it be too complicated for developers to-nah, it's too silly to waste time on.
:huh:This is weird, us getting along....I swear you are the only person I have gone from utter dislike to fond admiration. I don't know if I like this...
Ryzaki wrote...
The only thing that bugged me about the love triangle scene was there was no third "Uh...sorry I've been sending out mixed signals. I'm not interested in either of you." option.Especially since Liara's renedouche refusal made her bug out and Ash's romance can get started from asking about her grandfather of all things.
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We got off on the wrong foot?DiebytheSword wrote...
Despite getting off on the wrong foot with you, I've come to enjoy reading your posts, whether I agree with them or not.
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