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[feliciano2040]

TomY90 wrote...

Shepard all the sudden having a polyamorous relationship with two people seems a bit out of the blue

I don't think so, you could say the same thing about Shepard suddenly having a homosexual relationship.

[Ryzaki]

feliciano2040 wrote...

That's kind of cheap.

You do make it very clear to your respective LI's that you ARE interested in them.

Having an option so simply say "I'm not interested" when confronted would be adequate only if Shepard was mentally ill, which he/she is not.

Actually no you don't.

Go ahead and talk to Ash just about her grandfather. Don't have Shep flirt. Do not get on her case about not liking the alien squaddies. Heck just be nice and polite. Then talk to Liara and pick the rendouche "I'm not interested." (not sure if this bug is only on PC) now stop talking to them. Keep playing and watch what happens.

I usually virmire Ash but I've gotten Liara coming to my Shep at the locker scene when I clearly refused her. (And I got Ash going "I thought we had something." when my Shep wasn't flirty towards her at all.)

It's gotten annoying enough to the point where I just virmire Ash and pick up Liara as late as possible. (Thankfully I don't always *have* to do this because Liara's paragon refusal works just fine. I have no idea why there isn't something similar for Ash). I know I can end the relationship with Ash by getting on her case about the alien squaddies but my Shep would not say that. 

And the "keep it professional chief." line when Shep is talking to her and Kaidan sounds like Shep has a stick up his ass. Not to mention I missed that trigger (and it's easily missed) on a majority of my games. (Too much in a rush to recruit Garrus).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 décembre 2011 - 08:43 .

[jeweledleah]

I'm fairly sure that "keep it professional" does nothing to break off relationship - that is if you mean the conversation on a Citadel before you get spectre status.

as for the OP - again, existing LI's made it pretty clear that they won't share, with possible exception of Liara and Kelly. so even the IMO flimsy excuse that's used to justify expanding character "they never said otherwise" flies out the window. becasue every single one of them refuses to progress the relationship unless you break it of with a competition. they tell you as much.

so it would have to be with new LI's. furthermore, also something I already said before - bioware has trouble enough with nuances and consistency of monogamous relationships, at this time, I cannot imagine them being able to handle poly. flings? sure, they can do flings. but flings are NOT relationships.

[TomY90]

feliciano2040 wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

Shepard all the sudden having a polyamorous relationship with two people seems a bit out of the blue

I don't think so, you could say the same thing about Shepard suddenly having a homosexual relationship.

I do think the same with shepard suddenly have homosexual relationships as well actually it just doesnt make sense story wise.

The only time it makes sense is if you played as FemShep and romanced with Liara.

[Random citizen]

[quote]PrimalEden wrote...



Regarding your femshep, seems like constent behaviour from Shepard there. The LIs in ME colud remark on how its no surprise to them that Shepard does not want to tie herself to one person and that the LI understand if she/he will not be the only one. This can in turn lead to rejection (unless shepard forsake all other LIs), or smaller or greater chanses to have have a poly relation to that person. In the end This particular femshep ends up with Liara and Kelly (as it might be impossible to change Kaidans mind in this).

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Any idea how Bioware could implement that? My head is too full to follow that...

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Well for femshep and maleshep there is a limited number of LI that you can have romanced up until starting M3.
If your character have been all over the place (Romanced or flirted with both male and female LIs) this can trigger a certain flags and paths with certain lines and behaviour from charcters in ME3. 

Your character is flagged as bisexual (having expressed intersted in Liara and Kelly as well as Kaidan and an unspecified ME2 LI) as well as one who "likes to get around" (more then 2 love interests ) resulting in specific behaviour in those you have been flagged as having had relationship with as well as other potential LIs.

Kaiden talks about when you tried to get both him and Liara in bed as well as your ME2 LI and the rumors about your delaings with Kelly. He has a specific reation to it. The same goes for Liara and the others. 

Or your character might look like mine: Romanced Liara in ME (tried to get Ashly along but she went "in your dreams! I am out of here!) Romanced Tali in M2 (since Liara was clearly not interested in continuing) but rekindled my characters romance with Liara in LOTSB post suicide mission (without actually breaking up with Tali, but she had no lines refering to me seeing Liara again and having to choose, and neither did Liara, right after that I did Arrival. ).

As you can see, my male shep can be concidered heterosexual and interested in Liara and Tali. This will lead them to react to this, and their reactions may differ depending on how well I have treated them (For example the outcome of Talis mission, etc). 

I am sure someone could make a table on how all the possible results produce diffrent effects. But remember that many of those differences might be very small, just a differnt name or so, unless the the diffrent LI have special relations to one-another (which might complicate the quest for poly, or make it easier).

[Ravensword]

Oh, hai, Eternal!

I see you're hear b/c you're fixin' to get into some of that polyamorous action. As always, I can be of help to you, bro.

[Ieldra]

I would love to see one polyamorous relationship, not the least for the shock it would deliver to certain people. There's no reason why social mores can't evolve together with technology. In fact, it's one of my pet peeves that in most sci-fi made for popular entertainment, including the ME universe, these things stay so sickeningly traditional.

But I don't think ME3 is the place to expand relationship themes more than they've already been expanded.

[Ryzaki]

Edit. Rant is not needed. Crisis averted.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 décembre 2011 - 09:02 .

[Dean_the_Young]

The first conversation on the Citadel can break it off. I'm pretty confident on that.

[Ryzaki]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

The first conversation on the Citadel can break it off. I'm pretty confident on that.

*gets on knees and sighs happily* 

Thank you Dean. <3 *gives virtual cookies*

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 décembre 2011 - 09:02 .

[Random citizen]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I would love to see one polyamorous relationship, not the least for the shock it would deliver to certain people. There's no reason why social mores can't evolve together with technology. In fact, it's one of my pet peeves that in most sci-fi made for popular entertainment, including the ME universe, these things stay so sickeningly traditional.

But I don't think ME3 is the place to expand relationship themes more than they've already been expanded.

Well if you read my example above some LI paths seem to have one possible logical conclusion that is a non-monogamous relationship (the other is having to choose to dump someone your character loves. But being forced to choose and dumping someone you love for someone else you love does not autmatically change the supposed feelings for the one you dumped).

[Ryzaki]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

The first conversation on the Citadel can break it off. I'm pretty confident on that.

I'm going to look incredibly dumb for asking this, but what conversation is this, and when? Do you have to have triggered a romance to get it?

I don't think so. You have to go to that...viewpoint where the Terra Firma party has their speech later (you have to do this before recruiting either Garrus or Wrex but after talking to the council so it's easily missed considering Garrus recruitment is right next door) and interacting with the viewpoint has Kaidan and Ash start up a conversation about how big the citadel is.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 décembre 2011 - 09:06 .

[Ryzaki]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I always end the alien conversation early to avoid the romance when I play as ManShep. Then I Virmire her just to be on the safe side. I really don't want to be ninjamanced.

But yeah, those romance triggers are incredibly dumb. Why can't Ashley be like Miranda, whom I can avoid any romance-related conversation with so easily?

Yeah and it's so incredibly easy in ME1. Just rage inducing is what it is.

Devs were being dumb? I'm guessing Liara's writer is the only one who though "hey now! They might not want to romance this character!" bleh.

[Dominus]

Genuine love between 3 consenting adults?

I'll fight for the love. I may not get actually try it in ME3*, but I'll support it well enough.

*Who am I kidding, I'll probably try it anyways to see everything in the game, assuming it's even included.

[Ravensword]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Oh, hai, Eternal!

I see you're hear b/c you're fixin' to get into some of that polyamorous action. As always, I can be of help to you, bro.

*backs away slowly*

I just gotta get Drucilla over here and it's on.

[jlb524]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
The first conversation on the Citadel can break it off. I'm pretty confident on that.

I know it doesn't work on Kaidan.  Though, his romance is easier to avoid later on.

[Dean_the_Young]

That might be it. It certainly works on Ashley.

Bro-mancing that girl is so much fun.

[Ryzaki]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

That might be it. It certainly works on Ashley.

Bro-mancing that girl is so much fun.

*sighs in relief*

It's be more fun if I didn't have to dodge a minefield to avoid romancing her without being a douche