1136342t54 wrote...
So basically the second pope was far more pro human anyway? The first pope wasn't necessarily xenophobic he just didn't care for genocide. This pope was helpful but how helpful is a mystery since Christianity was big before aliens were discovered. It is probably still big now but likely less so.
I never argued that the Cerberus replacement wasn't Pro-human. I argued that his position was more amenable toward the Alliance's diplomacy, which is one way that Cerberus has helped humanity.
Actually we do. In Retribution Illusive Man attempted experiments on Paul Grayson to turn him into a Reaper slave. It was a little too successful though. Also Cerberus operatives attempted to gain info from the Collector Base and they were yet again indoctrinated. Their research haven't been particularly useful in fact it is likely the main reason behind Cerberus little change of heart as of ME3
Retribution is how Cerberus gained the information. That was the purpose of the Grayson experiements before Anderson and Sanders screwed everything up. That book shows nothing of how the information gained by the experiments was used, as most of the book was about putting down the lab-rat.
I said Cerberus were usually successful 50% of the time. Remember Pragia? They failed at making a supersoldier horribly but the research helped them learn about biotics. They usually fail primary goals but are able to get some success from the failure.
That we have seen, also, we have are lacking an opperational history of the Spectres, meaning that we are unable to do any plasable comparison.
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