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#76
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Lunatic LK47 wrote...

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Who plays a primarily solo story based  game for JUST THE MULTI-PLAYER?  If that's what you want go get an MMO, or game specifically like COD or whatever.  


Yeah, tell that to the idiots at Capcom for wanting to jump on the co-op bandwagon for RE5. Such a shame standards have slipped because multiplayer is "Fad of the decade."


Which is one of the reasons I'm really looking forward to Skyrim. It's just me and the game.

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Beating a dead horse people. We need to put these type of topics to rest.

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 Concerning multiplayer in ME3...

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I'm saving food to eat for when I hear multiplayer is announce. I want to be sure I have plenty of vomit to spray.

With that said, we'll see. There's the old Star Trek Elite Forces games that had great stories and great multiplayer... but I just can't conceive of a modern game where multiplayer isn't going to take away from the single player.

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ACWolfe wrote...

*sighs* I'll never understand why MP in the ME universe would upset so many people. Nobody's forcing you to use it. It's there if you want it, same with games like Red Dead Redemption, Forza, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Halo, Call of Duty, and whatever else.

If I want to partake in a bit of MP in RDR, I will. If I don't, I won't. Why complain about a feature if it's so much easier to simply avoid it in the first place? Image IPB ... Wait, don't answer that.

Anyway, to answer your other questions, I don't have a clue x 2.


Because effort/cash spent on MP could have been used to make the SP even better. That's why. Why is that so difficult to grasp?

Fine, there may be a separate group of devs doing MP(if it exists), but that doesn't change that the money BW/EA spends on the MP studio guys, would be put to far better use being pooled together with the SP resources.

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NugatRevolution wrote...

*Shrug* I'm not against the idea of multiplayer. It just needs to be done properly.

Assassins Creed is a prime example. A strictly single player game that added a successful (if flawed and incomplete, in my opinion) multiplayer experience. As long as it's done properly and doesn't detract from the original story/gameplay, I've got nothing against it.


But Assassins Creed Brotherhood was shorter than AC2, multiplayer probably had something to do with that.

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damn no

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Proto-Man wrote...

NugatRevolution wrote...

*Shrug* I'm not against the idea of multiplayer. It just needs to be done properly.

Assassins Creed is a prime example. A strictly single player game that added a successful (if flawed and incomplete, in my opinion) multiplayer experience. As long as it's done properly and doesn't detract from the original story/gameplay, I've got nothing against it.


But Assassins Creed Brotherhood was shorter than AC2, multiplayer probably had something to do with that.


Not to mention the main storyline is pretty bland once you get past Monteriggioni.

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Proto-Man wrote...

NugatRevolution wrote...

*Shrug* I'm not against the idea of multiplayer. It just needs to be done properly.

Assassins Creed is a prime example. A strictly single player game that added a successful (if flawed and incomplete, in my opinion) multiplayer experience. As long as it's done properly and doesn't detract from the original story/gameplay, I've got nothing against it.


But Assassins Creed Brotherhood was shorter than AC2, multiplayer probably had something to do with that.


Not to mention that Assassins creed has a much larger team dedicated to just assassins creed than all of bioware put together. Add that to the fact that brotherhood is made as "assassins creed lite" to help finish ezio's story in the lead up to three.

The situation is different. Not to mention brotherhood is a "spinoff" of the assassins creed series used to experiment new ideas FOR assassins creed 3. Not comparable to the last game in an epic single player trilogy.

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Is Mass Effect going to become a first-person shooter with anime hairstyles? Because that would really suck. Has the entire story, gameplay features and such been released even though the game isn't due out for six months? Kthanx.

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Think about this for a second. If it's seperate co-op missions NOT RELATED TO THE STORY, as has been suggested, would they not maybe take a Red Dead Redemption route then and maybe have the co-op missions as free downloads? As in, they won't even BE on the disc? Then the game discs are fully singleplayer and the co-op add ons are downloadable. That's the prime way to go about it and it's totally what I see happening.

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At this point I don't even hope anymore. Sadly, despite outright denials in the past ( social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7166239 ), at this point multiplayer is pretty much a done deal and all that's left is official confirmation. First they pushed the release back several months (something Dragon Age 2 really, really could have used), now they have a "killer new feature" (insert mandatory "killing the game" joke here!) soon to be announced, and according to Destructoid a ME3 ad has been spotted mentioning an "online pass", the obvious implication being multiplayer. 

What annoys me the most as that the Dragon Age 2 lead designer went on the record to say that the recycled environments in Dragon Age 2 were due to a "lack of resources" to make more unique areas, and now they they are spending extra time and resources adding a half-baked multiplayer mode in a misguided attempt to make Mass Effect "mainstream" that will accomplish nothing but make the single-player campaign, the only reason anyone will play Mass Effect, shorter and worse.

Seriously, publishers, this isn't rocket science. Who the heck bought Dead Space 2 or Bioshock 2 because it had multiplayer? With so many real multiplayer games out there for gamers who want them, who's going to choose a game with a shoehorned multiplayer mode?

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Lack of resources, bah. Lack of resources is a nice excuse he used to justify that reasoning. There was no "lack of resources" in Origins, after all.

As for this "online pass" isn't that exactly what Cerberus Network was?

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CaimDark wrote...

At this point I don't even hope anymore. Sadly, despite outright denials in the past ( social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7166239 ), at this point multiplayer is pretty much a done deal and all that's left is official confirmation. First they pushed the release back several months (something Dragon Age 2 really, really could have used), now they have a "killer new feature" (insert mandatory "killing the game" joke here!) soon to be announced, and according to Destructoid a ME3 ad has been spotted mentioning an "online pass", the obvious implication being multiplayer. 

What annoys me the most as that the Dragon Age 2 lead designer went on the record to say that the recycled environments in Dragon Age 2 were due to a "lack of resources" to make more unique areas, and now they they are spending extra time and resources adding a half-baked multiplayer mode in a misguided attempt to make Mass Effect "mainstream" that will accomplish nothing but make the single-player campaign, the only reason anyone will play Mass Effect, shorter and worse.

Seriously, publishers, this isn't rocket science. Who the heck bought Dead Space 2 or Bioshock 2 because it had multiplayer? With so many real multiplayer games out there for gamers who want them, who's going to choose a game with a shoehorned multiplayer mode?


Dude, it's an unofficial ad from a retailer in frick'in' South Africa. Calm down.

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CaimDark wrote...

Sadly, despite outright denials in the past ( social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7166239 )


That's a volunteer moderator's comment.

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I find it increasingly likely that it's actually the Cerberus Network equivalent mistaken for multiplayer. Obviously, the word online by its lonesome does not constitute multiplayer; ME2 had the CN with no multiplayer, and that was very much an online component.

Wishful thinking perhaps, but it's possible.

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The real question should be how many Sheploos can be in a multiplayer match? I can hear it now, "I'm Commander Shepard!" "No, I'm Commander Shepard!" "No, over here, I'm Commader Shepard!!!" I'm having a Kirk Douglas from "Spartacus" flashback right now. That's why these Multiplayer rumours in ME3 sound so fracking silly. "I am Spartacus," indeed.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

Lack of resources, bah. Lack of resources is a nice excuse he used to justify that reasoning. There was no "lack of resources" in Origins, after all.

As for this "online pass" isn't that exactly what Cerberus Network was?


Good point. It might be, though I don't remember it being advertised as such, assuming that ad is even real. Still, I'm convinced we'll get multiplayer not just because of this but because of the whole picture. As much as I'd like to believe they delayed the game in order to make the best possible single-player game, somehow I doubt that. I really hope I'm wrong, we'll just have to wait and see.

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The new feature has already been confirmed as not being multiplayer via twitter. I can give you the link to the other mutliplayer thread speculation thread that you seem to spam this thread off of. Please, stop making these threads! I am damn sure there is not going to be multiplayer any time soon. As I posted in many other threads like this they would have to totally revamp the combat system and multiple classes for this idea to even work. (Not going to retype everything since this is getting really old) Also you are basing your multiplayer assumptions on a magazine that has lied/thrown out misinformation before.

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Siansonea II wrote...

Is Mass Effect going to become a first-person shooter with anime hairstyles? Because that would really suck. Has the entire story, gameplay features and such been released even though the game isn't due out for six months? Kthanx.

Is the new default Femshep, the Spectre-Commander-savior-hero of the galaxy, going to look like 15yr old jailbait?  Because that would really suck.

Modifié par Future Guy, 03 octobre 2011 - 06:06 .


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Future Guy wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Is Mass Effect going to become a first-person shooter with anime hairstyles? Because that would really suck. Has the entire story, gameplay features and such been released even though the game isn't due out for six months? Kthanx.

Is the new default Femshep, the Spectre-Commander-savior-hero of the galaxy, going to look like 15yr old jailbait?  Because that would really suck.


The Dawson Casting trope seems to have done a lot of damage.

About MP, If it´s there I fear there will be a lot of dissapointed people. Not only for the MP itself, but because most powers used in game woldn´t work well in PvP, so I think they´ll change them a lot or the balance will be terrible.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 03 octobre 2011 - 06:13 .


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Bachi1230 wrote...

Tad inappropriate don't you think Mr.Kusy?

Also to OP They have neither confirmed or denied multiplayer, but the impression we're getting is that it isn't likely to have Multiplayer in ME 3.

On a side note I'm not sure how having a Co-op mode multiplayer where you can have one person be shepard and the other be one of the crew members (They get unique dialogue options appropriate to their character that are just flavor text). be a bad thing.

Also I've yet to see a game be "ruined" with the edition of multiplayer. Not that I support multiplayer for ME 3.

Indeed. Something co-operative would be interesting.

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TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

Tad inappropriate don't you think Mr.Kusy?

Also to OP They have neither confirmed or denied multiplayer, but the impression we're getting is that it isn't likely to have Multiplayer in ME 3.

On a side note I'm not sure how having a Co-op mode multiplayer where you can have one person be shepard and the other be one of the crew members (They get unique dialogue options appropriate to their character that are just flavor text). be a bad thing.

Also I've yet to see a game be "ruined" with the edition of multiplayer. Not that I support multiplayer for ME 3.

Indeed. Something co-operative would be interesting.


It would be an interesting way of solving the AI problem - remove it from the equation.

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Il Divo wrote...

Proto-Man wrote...

But Assassins Creed Brotherhood was shorter than AC2, multiplayer probably had something to do with that.


Not to mention the main storyline is pretty bland once you get past Monteriggioni.


And all of the missions where highly scripted so that you could not deviate from the prescribed path and try other assassination methods.  This made AC:B more of an on-rails game than the sandbox game that the other versions were.  And this absolutely killed replay.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

About MP, If it´s there I fear there will be a lot of dissapointed people. Not only for the MP itself, but because most powers used in game woldn´t work well in PvP, so I think they´ll change them a lot or the balance will be terrible.


They haven't even finished balancing the powers for single-player, much less MP.  As was pointed out in another thread, it is way, way too late in the cycle to be starting MP balance.  This is why the only MP that is possible for ME3 (if there is any at all) is co-op.