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[Mail Turtle]

Kaidan has two bars as well: http://cache.gawkera.../me3shot_01.jpg

So I imagine if he is promoted it's only to staff commander.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Valdrane78 wrote...

But I doubt they would bother to change cloths in the middle of an attack.  Not saying your wrong, but if on eof my Marines had ever told me.  "Hold on, I need to change my shirt!"  If we ever got ambushed, I'd tell them to stfu and grab their weapon.

Yeah well it does looks like that both Shep and Anderson is wearing some kind of flack west, And not shirts.
Changing shirt before going into battle is ludacris, But changing into something that would offer some kind of protection is actually a pretty good idea especially if those Flack wests comes with shield generators.. which they do as seen in the game play.

[Valdrane78]

Mail Turtle wrote...

Kaidan has two bars as well: http://cache.gawkera.../me3shot_01.jpg

So I imagine if he is promoted it's only to staff commander.

Nice catch there, I never noticed that.  Well I guess we will just have towait 6 months and see.  I look forward to it.  But I am not totally conviced of those 2 bars, I can't see if it is just par tof the design of Kaidan's gear or actual chevrons.

[bucyrus5000]

Making Shep a navy Captain makes most sense, because of his command of Normandy, and his time in the field out of contact. Still it did look like a soldier Major's rank. We know Shep was a marine at some point, but we also know Shep had the rank of Commander, which is a navy rank. I figure Shep was made navy for some reason after his prequel service.

[Zakatak757]

Perhaps it is nothing more then a design oversight.

Kaidan is a Staff Commander, and he has 2 bars.

[Valdrane78]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Valdrane78 wrote...

But I doubt they would bother to change cloths in the middle of an attack.  Not saying your wrong, but if on eof my Marines had ever told me.  "Hold on, I need to change my shirt!"  If we ever got ambushed, I'd tell them to stfu and grab their weapon.

Yeah well it does looks like that both Shep and Anderson is wearing some kind of flack west, And not shirts.
Changing shirt before going into battle is ludacris, But changing into something that would offer some kind of protection is actually a pretty good idea especially if those Flack wests comes with shield generators.. which they do as seen in the game play.

Agreed, after watching the footage again, it does look like it is some type of flak jacket worn over hsi uniform, thsi I can get behind. But finding a full suti of armor and taking the time to put it on is a tad over the top.

[Golden Owl]

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Wow this was a good find. I'm pretty sure his rank should be a mjor

This...

[ElitePinecone]

The Alliance Navy and Marines are in the same armed force structure, it's not the same as the contemporary US Marines. Someone posted the rank progression on a previous page; they use the same structure except that Marines use alternative names for the same Navy rank.

Also, Shepard is in the Navy. She'd be a Captain rather than a Major.

Also: I vaguely remember a developer, or perhaps it was a magazine/website preview, mentioning that Anderson gives Shepard a promotion at the end of the Earth level. Something about "it's about time you got a promotion." Am I imagining that?

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 22 septembre 2011 - 01:18 .

[Annihilator27]

"OH S***,They are real!!! Shepard you getting a promotion now get out there and stop them"

[el master pr]

ElitePinecone wrote...

The Alliance Navy and Marines are in the same armed force structure, it's not the same as the contemporary US Marines. Someone posted the rank progression on a previous page; they use the same structure except that Marines use alternative names for the same Navy rank.

Also, Shepard is in the Navy. She'd be a Captain rather than a Major.

Also: I vaguely remember a developer, or perhaps it was a magazine/website preview, mentioning that Anderson gives Shepard a promotion at the end of the Earth level. Something about "it's about time you got a promotion." Am I imagining that?

I've only heard Anderson say: "Welcome back to the Alliance."

*goes to watch the video again*

edit: Nothing on the video.

Modifié par el master pr, 22 septembre 2011 - 01:24 .

[footballzach50]

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

[BloodyTalon]

He sorta is above ranks a-lot of the time doubt that will change.

[Valdrane78]

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Navy is Air and Space (just think of it as the US Navy except we have space ships instead), Marines are ground troops.

[Zakatak757]

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Space IS Navy.

It has been that way in every sci-fi. The Navy was meerly converted to space. Spaceships replace Seaships. Caskets are put out an airlock, rather then dumped in the sea. All the same traditions, really.

The USS Enterprise was an aircraft carrier long before it was a ship in Star Trek.

Modifié par Zakatak757, 22 septembre 2011 - 01:35 .

[ElitePinecone]

Valdrane78 wrote...

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Navy is Air and Space (just think of it as the US Navy except we have space ships instead), Marines are ground troops.

Yeah, although they're both part of one military command structure. The codex says "The divide between naval personnel and ground forces ("marines") is small. Ground units are a specialized branch of the fleet, just as fighter squadrons are."

If Shepard was in the navy (since s/he served as XO on the Normandy, and was a Lt. Commander) wouldn't the rank progression be Captain rather than Major? Is it even possible for a Marine to be a naval XO? 

[Valdrane78]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Valdrane78 wrote...

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Navy is Air and Space (just think of it as the US Navy except we have space ships instead), Marines are ground troops.

Yeah, although they're both part of one military command structure. The codex says "The divide between naval personnel and ground forces ("marines") is small. Ground units are a specialized branch of the fleet, just as fighter squadrons are."

If Shepard was in the navy (since s/he served as XO on the Normandy, and was a Lt. Commander) wouldn't the rank progression be Captain rather than Major? Is it even possible for a Marine to be a naval XO? 

While mos tof the ranks are similar, ranks like Captain are reserved for Captains of vessels, so someone of the same rank that commands ground troops (Major) would have a different designation.  Much the same as Rear Admiral and General.  General commands groudn troops, Rear Admiral the fleet even though they are the same rank.

Modifié par Valdrane78, 22 septembre 2011 - 01:39 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

Zakatak757 wrote...

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Space IS Navy.

It has been that way in every sci-fi. The Navy was meerly converted to space. Spaceships replace Seaships. Caskets are put out an airlock, rather then dumped in the sea. All the same traditions, really.

The USS Enterprise was an aircraft carrier long before it was a ship in Star Trek.

Yeah and a sloop of war (1775) before it ever became a aircraft carrier.

[mango smoothie]

Zakatak757 wrote...

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Space IS Navy.

It has been that way in every sci-fi. The Navy was meerly converted to space. Spaceships replace Seaships. Caskets are put out an airlock, rather then dumped in the sea. All the same traditions, really.

The USS Enterprise was an aircraft carrier long before it was a ship in Star Trek.

Actually this is something in most Scifi shows/movies I have a problem with. Most countries today have it so any military space programs is actually part of the Air Force. In reality any future spaceships would be under Airforce command.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force

[capn233]

In Stargate it was all Air Force, was it not?

As far as Star Trek... the ship was almost certainly named for Big E, CV-6, the most decorated ship of WWII... arguably rivaled in success only by the original USS Constitution (gasp, which was its class...).

I think it is weird that the "Marine" equivalent of Capt is Major and not Colonel.

At any rate, Shepard should have been full Cmdr when he was made CO of the Normandy in ME1.

As for Kaidan, he is dead. But for purely theoretical purposes, where was it stated that he was a Staff Lt in ME1? Is that just handed down from the devs? He is simply addressed as lieutenant in the game, which is how you would call someone of any Lt grade. This is mainly for my own curiosity as I don't want to harp on Kaidan getting promoted, or anything of that nature.

Modifié par capn233, 22 septembre 2011 - 02:45 .

[bucyrus5000]

mango smoothie wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

footballzach50 wrote...

Would it be possible that he is not Military or Navy, since he is in space it could be a new group, correct? Navy = sea
Army = land
????? = space

Space IS Navy.

It has been that way in every sci-fi. The Navy was meerly converted to space. Spaceships replace Seaships. Caskets are put out an airlock, rather then dumped in the sea. All the same traditions, really.

The USS Enterprise was an aircraft carrier long before it was a ship in Star Trek.

Actually this is something in most Scifi shows/movies I have a problem with. Most countries today have it so any military space programs is actually part of the Air Force. In reality any future spaceships would be under Airforce command.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force

That is true, current militaries have their air service as the pointmen on space matters, but that is because air force structure is to have a a small crew where the pilot/Captain is in control of the craft, the powerplant of the craft is also under pilot control or remote ground control. If a vessel is not to be under ground control at all, has a powerplant that needs a dedicated staff, has need of a galley, medical bay, and laundry, and needs to be in deployment for more than a few days, then the vessel requires a naval staffing structure.

[Valdrane78]

Back on topic please.

[Lunatic LK47]

Valdrane78 wrote...

MrFob wrote...

Alright lets get some pictures in here:Is this what you are talking about?

Because I am not sure these are even rank insignia.

Besides, I highly doubt Shepard got promoted with the trial and all. Also, Commander Shepard has been established so well in the trilogy, I doubt BW will give it up in the last game.
I think it is either a mistake or they are not insignia after all.

I disagree, it's way to similar to the insignia on Anderson's cover (hat) to be some kind of mistake.  And it is in the correct place chevrons woudl go on a military uniform.

Uh, I don't think that's a chevron. Going to guess that it's the N7 stripe on his color. Look at the colors carefully.

[Bachi1230]

haha Kanye west

[Zakatak757]

Valdrane78 wrote...

Back on topic please.

What more is there to be said? Either Bioware made a mistake, or Shepard has been promoted.

If I join the military, it would be Air Force without a doubt, but I think Navy is more fitting for a space-oriented military. I better idea would simply to combine all the branches into 1 actually. 

[Valdrane78]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Valdrane78 wrote...

MrFob wrote...

Alright lets get some pictures in here:Is this what you are talking about?

Because I am not sure these are even rank insignia.

Besides, I highly doubt Shepard got promoted with the trial and all. Also, Commander Shepard has been established so well in the trilogy, I doubt BW will give it up in the last game.
I think it is either a mistake or they are not insignia after all.

I disagree, it's way to similar to the insignia on Anderson's cover (hat) to be some kind of mistake.  And it is in the correct place chevrons woudl go on a military uniform.

Uh, I don't think that's a chevron. Going to guess that it's the N7 stripe on his color. Look at the colors carefully.

Watch the video, it is clearly two parallel vertical bars bearing no resemblance to the N7 insignia.