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PrimalEden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


Do we mourn the death of an armed merc who knew what she was up against or for the girl who fell in love with someone she did not know would murder her?

I don't know about you, but I mourn both. Just like I mourn both Samara and Morinth.


If it's of any consolation, Samara mourns for her daughter. She likely will mourn to the end of her days. A mother's love can be hard to understand. They would love their child no matter what their child did, as you most likely know from personal experience. Samara could not allow Morinth to continue to kill, but she still loved her.


Do not call me that! You are a disease to be purged, nothing more.


I have to say their in game interaction supports Morinth's claim that Samara never showed any love. Perhaps if Samara had shared her feelings with her children as willingly as she did with Shepard things would have turned out better.

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Gallimatia wrote...

PrimalEden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


Do we mourn the death of an armed merc who knew what she was up against or for the girl who fell in love with someone she did not know would murder her?

I don't know about you, but I mourn both. Just like I mourn both Samara and Morinth.


If it's of any consolation, Samara mourns for her daughter. She likely will mourn to the end of her days. A mother's love can be hard to understand. They would love their child no matter what their child did, as you most likely know from personal experience. Samara could not allow Morinth to continue to kill, but she still loved her.


Do not call me that! You are a disease to be purged, nothing more.


I have to say their in game interaction supports Morinth's claim that Samara never showed any love. Perhaps if Samara had shared her feelings with her children as willingly as she did with Shepard things would have turned out better.

I always thought of it as samara trying to distance herself from morinth, so that it was her destroying a disease not killing her own daughter, and thats also why morinth kept calling her mother bcause it could cause her to hesitate

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It is Samara distancing herself from Morinth. Presumably the same way she has always kept herself at a distance from her supposedly diseased daughters. We see the precise and proper Samara at her very worst but not essentially different from how she has always been.

I do not think Morinth is calling Samara mother to get her to hesitate. She is distraught and speaking from the heart knowing full well the only way she will live through the encounter is if Samara is physically overpowered. If it was an attempt at manipulation I imagine she would use the word somewhat sincerely not mockingly.

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Some good points as always. Morning all. :)

I'd considered the comparison between Ardat Yakshi and inbred children however, while I get the similarities in social stigma, I think the conditions are too different. We have to remember that humans depend on differentiating DNA with unrelated partners because inbreeding for our species leads to development deficiencies. There's no evidence in Mornith of any physical abnormalities / deformaties, of any cognitive issues, etc. Also that whole 'one gender' thing REALLY skews the comparision. Especially with Liara being a Pureblood and also a gifted Biotic. With humans there is no magic inbreeding threshold that can lead to gifted children.

I still say its closer to ant castes. New fun fact: Ant Queen's lay eggs. If they fertilize them with the 'contributions' from male partners they produce fertile male ants (drones). If they DO NOT fertilize them they produce infertile female CLONES of the Queen who are larger, more powerful, and predatory. Again, their reproductive system is replaced with something weaponized. Also the more they are 'fed' during development, the larger and stronger they become. Sounds like Morinth.

I think Ardat Yakshi have been around for a long time. I think a developing soldier caste made sense when the Asari were in culturally seperate groups on their planet (tribes, cities, countries, etc.) much like ants in separate colonies... Globalization inevitably kicked in and there was a cross-cultural melding period combined with a population boom. More Asari = more Ardat Yakshi but now there's much less likelihood of conflicting factions becoming violent. That puts a dampener on the necessity of that soldier caste.

Historically Asari were likely taught to be afraid of the Ardat Yakshi due to their genetic 'role' and then that role became redundant / inconvenient due to societal development. They get rounded up and isolated or 'put down'. 'Regular' Asari are socialized to view this as necessary and acceptable. Fast forward even more to space travel popping up and now the Asari discover that off-world mating loop hole. If they could rationalize holding back the Ardat Yakshi from societal integration before, NOW there's a perfect work around so why would those actions / views change? They would only become further cemented.

Whats interesting here is that when interplanetary conflicts started up between species the Ardat Yakshi weren't conscripted. Asari 'youth' are already driven towards sex and violence (stripper, mercenary, and pirate on the same resume? Hmmmm...) and their military prowess is a matter of pride (Few face an Asari Commando Unit and live to tell of it right?). The Ardat Yakshi would have made excellent assassins, strike teams, or complimented black ops commando units nicely. I also imagine they'd be pretty efficient in interrogations. Seems like Asari society has held them in contempt for so long they aren't capable of viewing them as natural or even useful. Mean while, regardless of the unnatural loop hole, Ardat Yakshi still exist. They're a PR nightmare but, they are naturally occurring.

Morinth stands behind the natural selection argument. Samara stands behind the socialization based 'for the good of society' argument. Both can be true at once. That's what makes it interesting. :) ...I think that's also at the core of their relationship. Morinth sees no reason to deny what she is and believes sooner or later the Asari will have to deal with her and her kind being what they are. Samara believes in the old and established socialized view point that Morinth and her kind are a societal sickness.

That's a metaphorical parallel: 1) The theme of a daughter having a life style that is naturally occurring but that them mother can't come to terms with. The daughter can't get approval and rebels. The mother can't approve and has to bury her maternal instincts to hold to her morale convictions. 2) A minority group emerging in a society who have traits that the majority view as evidence they are 'lesser' or detestable. The minority can't get acceptance and rebel, claiming they have a right to inclusion. The majority can't accept them and have to turn a blind eye to their similarities to the minority to hold to the majorities traditions.

ALL very intriguing before you even get into Shep's involvement and all of it exists outside of but along side the moral debate. Still, there's a fantastic complexities here.

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So I was going through Morinth's apartment again and thought: Why would Morinth call those that she melded with opponents? And the answer came to my mind: She doesn't!
The sword dueling and chess, I think she was talking about those that were after her, those that wanted to kill her, maybe someone beside Samara, or maybe Samara herself as she thought how it is going to be, when she gathers enough power and let's Samara find her, just like in a chess game or a duel.

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I was thinking the same thing D.Kain. The chess game and the other thing had her talking about opponents.

Ant-man, you've brought up stuff that while interesting to discuss, has no counter in the game. That last bit involving the metaphorical parallel also has elements that apply to segregation, suffrage, and homosexuals gaining rights currently. I wouldn't know where to go from there and there are plenty of people as referenced by the thread on the general discussion board (by a poster who could have just asked the question here instead of dividing peoples responses ⌐_⌐) who seem as though they wouldn't be interested in discussing anything other than what they think if correct.

NIcely done though. =)

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D.Kain wrote...

So I was going through Morinth's apartment again and thought: Why would Morinth call those that she melded with opponents? And the answer came to my mind: She doesn't!
The sword dueling and chess, I think she was talking about those that were after her, those that wanted to kill her, maybe someone beside Samara, or maybe Samara herself as she thought how it is going to be, when she gathers enough power and let's Samara find her, just like in a chess game or a duel.


Who is after Morinth but Samara, though?

Asari society prefers not to acknowledge Ardat-Yakshi at all, when people do recognize their existence. And organizing a hunt for a rogue would would draw attention to Ardat-Yakshi- attention that the Asari would not want aliens to have. Ardat-Yakshi are the Asari's dirty little secret, a blight on their society. Even Wasea, a merc leader and no innocent herself, called Morinth, "that filthy creature".

You can only make the case that the opponents mentioned in Morinth's apartment were after Morinth (solely because she was an Ardat-Yakshi), if you can prove that they had a vested interest in taking her out. From what we know of Asari society, and the fact that Morinth had been on the run for over four-hundred years, that indicates that Samara was the only one after her for being an Ardat-Yakshi.

Hey, sword-dueling is fine. Two people, agreeing on a fight to the death to prove who is stronger... well, people can do what they want. But remember the statue in Morinth's apartment? "A gift from a suitor. That statue has more personality than he did. Still, it impressed me enough that he finally got what he wanted. It didn't go the way he had hoped." Whatever did her suitor do to deserve death?

Stop with the whitewash. Stop with the romanticism.

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Asenza wrote...

Who is after Morinth but Samara, though?

Asari society prefers not to acknowledge Ardat-Yakshi at all, when people do recognize their existence. And organizing a hunt for a rogue would would draw attention to Ardat-Yakshi- attention that the Asari would not want aliens to have. Ardat-Yakshi are the Asari's dirty little secret, a blight on their society. Even Wasea, a merc leader and no innocent herself, called Morinth, "that filthy creature".

You can only make the case that the opponents mentioned in Morinth's apartment were after Morinth (solely because she was an Ardat-Yakshi), if you can prove that they had a vested interest in taking her out. From what we know of Asari society, and the fact that Morinth had been on the run for over four-hundred years, that indicates that Samara was the only one after her for being an Ardat-Yakshi.

Hey, sword-dueling is fine. Two people, agreeing on a fight to the death to prove who is stronger... well, people can do what they want. But remember the statue in Morinth's apartment? "A gift from a suitor. That statue has more personality than he did. Still, it impressed me enough that he finally got what he wanted. It didn't go the way he had hoped." Whatever did her suitor do to deserve death?

Stop with the whitewash. Stop with the romanticism.


Any random thug in the galaxy can be after Morinth, just because she is all alone and faced a lot of danger.

If asari don't want to acknoledge people just because the way they were born then screw them, they deserve everything they get out of it. 

It doesn't matter who Morinth killed, she had a goal. 

No romanticizing, just care for people that are not shown care.

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D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

Who is after Morinth but Samara, though?

Asari society prefers not to acknowledge Ardat-Yakshi at all, when people do recognize their existence. And organizing a hunt for a rogue would would draw attention to Ardat-Yakshi- attention that the Asari would not want aliens to have. Ardat-Yakshi are the Asari's dirty little secret, a blight on their society. Even Wasea, a merc leader and no innocent herself, called Morinth, "that filthy creature".

You can only make the case that the opponents mentioned in Morinth's apartment were after Morinth (solely because she was an Ardat-Yakshi), if you can prove that they had a vested interest in taking her out. From what we know of Asari society, and the fact that Morinth had been on the run for over four-hundred years, that indicates that Samara was the only one after her for being an Ardat-Yakshi.

Hey, sword-dueling is fine. Two people, agreeing on a fight to the death to prove who is stronger... well, people can do what they want. But remember the statue in Morinth's apartment? "A gift from a suitor. That statue has more personality than he did. Still, it impressed me enough that he finally got what he wanted. It didn't go the way he had hoped." Whatever did her suitor do to deserve death?

Stop with the whitewash. Stop with the romanticism.


Any random thug in the galaxy can be after Morinth, just because she is all alone and faced a lot of danger.

If asari don't want to acknoledge people just because the way they were born then screw them, they deserve everything they get out of it. 

It doesn't matter who Morinth killed, she had a goal. 

No romanticizing, just care for people that are not shown care.


What are you on about? She loves danger! She craves it! She doesn't understand people who want safety, "Some of us choose differently." The more danger the better, that's why she signs on to Shepard SM.

And unless you are deliberately ignoring what I said, I'll rephrase it. Most Asari do not even know Ardat-Yakshi really exist. You can't acknowledge something you don't know exists. There are so few of them that confinement is possible- which means to the vast majority of Asari, Ardat-Yakshi could be myth, an urban legend. The rest of Asari disdain is directed towards purebloods, which Morinth, as a pre-requisite for her disorder, is also.

Samara theorizes that the Ardat-Yakshi disorder is the reason why the Asari look down asari-asari pairings. Samara herself admits that it is just her theory, but it makes sense, so we have to accept it for now, barring further information in the next game.

Morinth doesn't care for others. She doesn't show care for others- she would probably hate and feel disdan for yours.

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Asenza wrote...

What are you on about? She loves danger! She craves it! She doesn't understand people who want safety, "Some of us choose differently." The more danger the better, that's why she signs on to Shepard SM.

And unless you are deliberately ignoring what I said, I'll rephrase it. Most Asari do not even know Ardat-Yakshi really exist. You can't acknowledge something you don't know exists. There are so few of them that confinement is possible- which means to the vast majority of Asari, Ardat-Yakshi could be myth, an urban legend. The rest of Asari disdain is directed towards purebloods, which Morinth, as a pre-requisite for her disorder, is also.

Samara theorizes that the Ardat-Yakshi disorder is the reason why the Asari look down asari-asari pairings. Samara herself admits that it is just her theory, but it makes sense, so we have to accept it for now, barring further information in the next game.

Morinth doesn't care for others. She doesn't show care for others- she would probably hate and feel disdan for yours.


I don't see yout thought chain. :?

She likes danger AND she faces thugs that she deals with. Not nescecery asari, plenty of people can have problems with you on Omega alone.

It is the responsability of the asari to bring AY into the open, so everybody knows.

Morinth cares for Shepard. 

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@ D.Kain.

1) You said, "Any random thug in the galaxy can be after Morinth, just because she is all alone and faced a lot of danger." And I said she likes it, loves being in danger, craves the feeling. Her being in danger is absolutely no problem for her.

2) Riiight. So the Asari, one of the dominant species of the galaxy, should make an announcement, for all other species to see, that an exceedingly small number of Asari are cursed with an (incurable?) genetic affliction that renders them unable to mate with another without killing their partner. EVEN though the disease is rare enough that containment is an option, sparing the afflicted's lives (if they so choose to not go on a four-hundred year killing spree) and the Asari's galactic reputation in the process?

Morinth absolutely does not care for Shepard. Not as a friend, a lover, a commander, a fighter, as the hero of the Citadel, as Collector Slayer or Sovereign slayer, not as the one who took down Saren, not for Shepard's goals in regards to the preservation of the entire galaxy, NOTHING.

Morinth only cares that Shepard can lead her into dark, dangerous places, where she can gain more power. Shepard is Morinth's season pass into death and destruction.

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Asenza wrote...

@ D.Kain.

1) You said, "Any random thug in the galaxy can be after Morinth, just because she is all alone and faced a lot of danger." And I said she likes it, loves being in danger, craves the feeling. Her being in danger is absolutely no problem for her.

2) Riiight. So the Asari, one of the dominant species of the galaxy, should make an announcement, for all other species to see, that an exceedingly small number of Asari are cursed with an (incurable?) genetic affliction that renders them unable to mate with another without killing their partner. EVEN though the disease is rare enough that containment is an option, sparing the afflicted's lives (if they so choose to not go on a four-hundred year killing spree) and the Asari's galactic reputation in the process?

Morinth absolutely does not care for Shepard. Not as a friend, a lover, a commander, a fighter, as the hero of the Citadel, as Collector Slayer or Sovereign slayer, not as the one who took down Saren, not for Shepard's goals in regards to the preservation of the entire galaxy, NOTHING.

Morinth only cares that Shepard can lead her into dark, dangerous places, where she can gain more power. Shepard is Morinth's season pass into death and destruction.


1) Well yes. But I was talking about the duel sword in her apartment and chess. I think that Samara and random thugs are the refference to that. 

2 ) Yes they should. Also they should not lock AY up, they should let them live like all other asari. 

Morinth cares for Shepard as a friend that has shown her care out of his own will, that she couldn't control, as her savior from Samara, as an interestin individual and as one that provided her with new interesting adventure.

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Renegade/Paragon, doesn't matter..

Why would Shepard, choose Mordin ( An uncontrollable/unpredictable sociopath ) A hormonal time-bomb, that could implode at any time over Samara, which has one thousand years of experience, and already sworn her allegiance, and utter obedience to Shepard..?

I don't even see a choice... Is painfully obvious.

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Well if you do some morally questionable things, Samara says she will bring "justice" to you. Morinth just comes along and helps no strings attached. Being a Spectre is the definition of being "morally questionable". By her code she should probably kill you for Arrival.

I have one experiment save with Morinth. I personally don't see her as a more valuable asset than Samara. I would rather roll the dice with Samara betraying me after her oath than picking Morinth.

I think Morinth could of been made better though. I lover her VA(Sigrun), and she has tons of potential to be very interesting. Instead they made it a very stacked choice against her, and if you pick her you really don't get anything(character wise).

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UserForFun wrote...

Renegade/Paragon, doesn't matter..

Why would Shepard, choose Mordin ( An uncontrollable/unpredictable sociopath ) A hormonal time-bomb, that could implode at any time over Samara, which has one thousand years of experience, and already sworn her allegiance, and utter obedience to Shepard..?

I don't even see a choice... Is painfully obvious.


If Morinth is inherently evil like many people say, how is it that when pit against her mother she always opts to run?  Does she recognized Samara as her mother?  Is it a line she never thought to cross?  If so where does that come from?  The idea that Samara is her better or is there something behind the scenes?

You say that Morinth is a time bomb or a hormonal time bomb.  I don't see where you get that since everything alludes to Morinth picking her victims.  Samara represents a greater threat considering she registered her presence when she landed on Illium, but engaged in a confrontation so worrying that she was sought out to be detained for fear that she might cause a diplomatic incident.  That her position as Justicar renders her aid from local Asari law enforcement if need be because her cause would be viewed as greater than what's on any Asari cop's plate.

The story that someone posted a link to a few pages ago serves to illustrate Morinth as many people were made to or chose to see her.  It doesn't illustrate a possibility of looking at Morinth in a different light.  All this I said before, but what if those who see her as evil were to look at what might be?

Suppose Morinth maintains her freedom as a sort of homage to her sisters.  That she runs free because her sisters and others like her are unable to do.  She thinks of herself as some kind of folk hero.  Suppose she's looking for a cure herself because no one else is trying, but she has to comply with her addiction to progress.  That her addiction actually stops her from moving.  Going with the vampire motif, Morinth goes into a form of torpor when not abiding her condition.

Though we're told stories about this person, what they are and what they can do, we're never made witness to what they've done.  We're told it happened and are therefore we're nudged to assume it happened.  Until Morinth says something it can be up in the air as to whether she killed Nef or not.  That kind of absence would kill any particular tale you want to tell.  

When a chance exists for confirmation of what Morinth can do or what she is, we're interrupted.  What we see is a level of hypnotism.  People say the meld was begun, but it wasn't.  The meld was enacted on the SR2 after the suicide mission was complete.  That time the chance resurfaces, we get a game over screen.  There's no game over screen that prompts you to resume, load, or exit when Shepard dies during the suicide mission.  Shepard dies and Joker talks to TIM.  In regards to Morinth, we get a game over screen that, in many cases, signifies that something didn't occur the way it should.  It's the same as getting shot in any skirmish on any mission including the suicide mission up until the point Shepard is able to make the jump to the Normandy.  So I'm left to think that something could have been done to ensure Shepard is able to survive the meld with Morinth and that's exactly what happened with me the first time.  I went to earlier states trying to find out what I missed that would have let my Shepard survive. 

Nothing in that apartment scene is conclusive of anything.  Three pieces allude to competition rather than predation and one speaks of a suitor.  A suitor is one who pursues the intended.  For all we know, Morinth could have told the suitor what she was and what could happen to him and he didn't care.  We have real life situations in which people knowingly marry those who have AIDS.  Not HIV, but what HIV evolves into.  They try their best to be careful, and some end up lucky.  Others not so much.  What's funny is that a situation is presented with Jack where she has someone who cares for her, the mention serves to give her doubt as to how she lives her life through male Shepard's responses, but she chooses to view it as the guy screwing her over because it keeps the wall up.  It keeps her from turning "soft".  Likewise with Morinth, she may be maintaining a wall so that she doesn't become a mess at thinking about all those she can never have.  She becomes cold to deal with her condition.  

So when the question becomes what do we see in a character like Morinth or why we like her the answer is: we see room for growth.  We see expansion that can go either way to round out the character.  For Shepard it could easily be that (s)he is never given the whole story about Morinth.  Everything is heresay.  

Those, like me, who want to see more dimensions of a character can't ever be made happy if Morinth remains as she is.  I, personally, am tired of villains with no motives when it appears there may be good motives (for them) for what what they do.  I got enough of that when I was a child with one-dimensional villains who were evil "just because" and I've grown up knowing that any opponent I have is someone's friend, significant other, and/or relative.  So it is the case that, in fiction, the same would apply: one person's hero is another one's villain.

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I think that for the sex scene with Morinth, a paragon Shep should have died and a renegade would have survived if strong enough.

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2 ) Yes they should. Also they should not lock AY up, they should let them live like all other asari. 

Morinth cares for Shepard as a friend that has shown her care out of his own will, that she couldn't control, as her savior from Samara, as an interestin individual and as one that provided her with new interesting adventure.

Please stop defending Morinth with just your flawed perspective of events.

2) If it is impossible for Ardat-Yakshi to live amongst regular society (proven true so far) then no, they should not be allowed to live like all other Asari.

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jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
2 ) Yes they should. Also they should not lock AY up, they should let them live like all other asari. 

Morinth cares for Shepard as a friend that has shown her care out of his own will, that she couldn't control, as her savior from Samara, as an interestin individual and as one that provided her with new interesting adventure.

Please stop defending Morinth with just your flawed perspective of events.

2) If it is impossible for Ardat-Yakshi to live amongst regular society (proven true so far) then no, they should not be allowed to live like all other Asari.


No offense Jreezy but why are you in the Morinth Fan Thread telling a Morinth Fan not to defend Morinth? D.Kain is very delusional and from the previous thread we have seen he has some ****ed up morals but this could be the wrong thread to be arguing this.

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1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
2 ) Yes they should. Also they should not lock AY up, they should let them live like all other asari. 

Morinth cares for Shepard as a friend that has shown her care out of his own will, that she couldn't control, as her savior from Samara, as an interestin individual and as one that provided her with new interesting adventure.

Please stop defending Morinth with just your flawed perspective of events.

2) If it is impossible for Ardat-Yakshi to live amongst regular society (proven true so far) then no, they should not be allowed to live like all other Asari.


No offense Jreezy but why are you in the Morinth Fan Thread telling a Morinth Fan not to defend Morinth? D.Kain is very delusional and from the previous thread we have seen he has some ****ed up morals but this could be the wrong thread to be arguing this.


Yes, there is the other thread for that kind of things. :)

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To be honest its quite possible this entire thread would get bogged down into an endless debate with a 100 pages in 2 days if me and Jreezy stay on here.

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1136342t54 wrote...

To be honest its quite possible this entire thread would get bogged down into an endless debate with a 100 pages in 2 days if me and Jreezy stay on here.


Sure, you believe what you believe, and you have an unshacable possition. 

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D.Kain wrote...

Sure, you believe what you believe, and you have an unshacable possition. 


Oh no you have an unshakaeable position no matter what anyone says. I see Morinth as a tragedy. Its not her fault for getting a genetic condition that makes her kill people if she melds with them but it is her fault that she started killing and eventually turned into a psychopath.

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Sure, you believe what you believe, and you have an unshacable possition. 


Oh no you have an unshakaeable position no matter what anyone says. I see Morinth as a tragedy. Its not her fault for getting a genetic condition that makes her kill people if she melds with them but it is her fault that she started killing and eventually turned into a psychopath.


Ok, ok... Then it is atleast HER fault + asari/justicars fault. Killing Morinth is only the begining to fixing things up, the justicars need to be dealt with too, to fix the problem. But Morinth can help me deal with Justicars, since they are a greater problem, and the begining of unjustice.

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D.Kain wrote...

Ok, ok... Then it is atleast HER fault + asari/justicars fault. Killing Morinth is only the begining to fixing things up, the justicars need to be dealt with too, to fix the problem. But Morinth can help me deal with Justicars, since they are a greater problem, and the begining of unjustice.


Its there fault she ran away its her fault she killed. What they were doing was sending her to a monastery in seclusion. To be honest its safe for them to do that since Ardat Yakshi naturally do not like to cooperate with a lot of people for long periods of time and the temptation of them being around others they can meld with would likely be too much. Its quite possible they would go into seclusion anyway. Morinth however seems to have likely killed anyway. Its 50/50 with her.

The purpose of the Justicar order isn't to hunt Ardat Yakshi. It is part of it but only in a peripheral sense. Ardat Yakshi commit injustice and Justicars hunt those who commit injustice nothing more. Justicars are no worse then Spectres at times. Hell the only times Samara necessarily had to kill civillians was due to Morinth. Sounds a lot like Spectres. Morinth was a great threat and the Justicar must do whatever it takes to complete her mission. Spectres kill civillians all the time to complete there mission. Hell Justicars are outright saintly at times. Remember Nihlus took a civillian hostage. Samara had to let Nihlus go to save the civillian.

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Its there fault she ran away its her fault she killed. What they were doing was sending her to a monastery in seclusion. To be honest its safe for them to do that since Ardat Yakshi naturally do not like to cooperate with a lot of people for long periods of time and the temptation of them being around others they can meld with would likely be too much. Its quite possible they would go into seclusion anyway. Morinth however seems to have likely killed anyway. Its 50/50 with her.

The purpose of the Justicar order isn't to hunt Ardat Yakshi. It is part of it but only in a peripheral sense. Ardat Yakshi commit injustice and Justicars hunt those who commit injustice nothing more. Justicars are no worse then Spectres at times. Hell the only times Samara necessarily had to kill civillians was due to Morinth. Sounds a lot like Spectres. Morinth was a great threat and the Justicar must do whatever it takes to complete her mission. Spectres kill civillians all the time to complete there mission. Hell Justicars are outright saintly at times. Remember Nihlus took a civillian hostage. Samara had to let Nihlus go to save the civillian.


Ok, but I still need Morinth to help me to stop the reapers and to kill everybody who tried to put her into seclusion. When that is done and she will still want to kill random people I would be forced to deal with her too.