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[RagnarsGirl]

D.Kain wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...
If they Alliance soldiers first that proves where their loyalty lies...with the Alliance
Of course Garrus hates injustice and loves to fight (why he doesn't question shep about working with cerbrus)
that has nothing to do with his loyalty.

Garrus hates injustice but his love for a fight? He isn't a Krogan. He actually tells Shepard why he doesn't question him. Its because he trust Shepard more than himself after what happened to his team.

Did you even play the game?

You forgot to tell her that she is trolling! Oh and don't forget about the monster......

I'm not trolling, Say it again and i'm going.

My post is sarcastic. lol 

It was not directed at you.

What I meant is that it's how it starts with this person: 

First: You didn't pay attention
Second: you are trollin
Third: If you don't agree you are a monster.

Cool. I find being called a troll just as insulting as implying that i haven't played ME lol

Afterall I do sniff out trolls for a living.

Thanks for clearing it up

[RagnarsGirl]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Are we going off topic? I thought this thread was for the morinth fans..
You said that Garrus joins shep because he is a Saren is a traitor - and because he wants to be free of c-secs redtape and restrictions - those are his own agendas.

Those are the main reasons why joined and you actually brought up the whose more loyal debate. You also attempted to bring up Me1 Garrus reasons for joining shepard which was basically a lie. In ME2 he joined Shepard because his team was dead and they needed to fight the Collectors. He also trusted Shepard more than he did himself.

Also by using your reasoning you can say Morinth joined Shepard for her own reasons. Morinth offered to join shepard so he could kill Samara and she wouldn't die. 

Actuall if you scroll up - which helps.
You brought up the who's more loyal debate. I'm a new recruit. look to the right.
Please elaborate on why you say i'm lying? About Garrus.

I brought ME1 up to elaborate on his general personality about shep and joining the mission. 

[1136342t54_]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Actuall if you scroll up - which helps.
You brought up the who's more loyal debate. I'm a new recruit. look to the right.
Please elaborate on why you say i'm lying? About Garrus.

If you scroll up further D.Kain brought it up for everyone.

You are saying the reason garrus joins up with Shepard is because he likes to live dangerously and likes to fight which is false. Garrus explains the reasons why he joins Shepard in both games and he doesn't say anything like that for his reasons.

[RagnarsGirl]

The whole crew joins shep for their own reasons- how is that a point, or a show of loyalty.
I have always said that Morinth has the least to lose and the most to gain if she ups and leaves.

She does not do this..This shows loyalty

[RagnarsGirl]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Actuall if you scroll up - which helps.
You brought up the who's more loyal debate. I'm a new recruit. look to the right.
Please elaborate on why you say i'm lying? About Garrus.

If you scroll up further D.Kain brought it up for everyone.

You are saying the reason garrus joins up with Shepard is because he likes to live dangerously and likes to fight which is false. Garrus explains the reasons why he joins Shepard in both games and he doesn't say anything like that for his reasons.

It will be false if we looking at two diff. games. However if you look at Garrus on a whole he sticks around with shep because he's more free. Of course he has other reasons for being with shep. Yes he is loyal. The most loyal, No,

[1136342t54_]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

The whole crew joins shep for their own reasons- how is that a point, or a show of loyalty.
I have always said that Morinth has the least to lose and the most to gain if she ups and leaves.

She does not do this..This shows loyalty

Its not a show of freaking loyalty but it seems that either you or D.Kain believes that Morinth joining Shep is a show of loyalty when it isn't. Her staying with Shep is mostly selfish since she wants to meld with him after the SM. 

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

The whole crew joins shep for their own reasons- how is that a point, or a show of loyalty.
I have always said that Morinth has the least to lose and the most to gain if she ups and leaves.

She does not do this..This shows loyalty

Its not a show of freaking loyalty but it seems that either you or D.Kain believes that Morinth joining Shep is a show of loyalty when it isn't. Her staying with Shep is mostly selfish since she wants to meld with him after the SM. 

She doesn't join Shepard TO meld with him, tha is complete BH!

[RagnarsGirl]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

The whole crew joins shep for their own reasons- how is that a point, or a show of loyalty.
I have always said that Morinth has the least to lose and the most to gain if she ups and leaves.

She does not do this..This shows loyalty

Its not a show of freaking loyalty but it seems that either you or D.Kain believes that Morinth joining Shep is a show of loyalty when it isn't. Her staying with Shep is mostly selfish since she wants to meld with him after the SM. 

Meld lol I hate that word.
If you going to use the selfish meter, then you need to apply it properly.

Yes she wants to meld(lol) with shep but that's not the only reason she stays.
Besides she knows it will kill him-she'll always want to but never really go through with it.

[Asenza]

Did anyone forget that the information we gained from our date with Morinth?

- she likes to go to dark, dangerous places in the pursuit of power.
- she scorns safety and doesn't understand people who crave it.
- Morinth also likes to kill.

All the above is satisfied by joining Shepard's quest.

That's not loyalty. That's using Shepard because she can get enjoyment by going to dark, dangerous places, fighting and killing others all the while satisfying the minor debt of gratitude she feels towards Shepard for killing her mother.

Yes, its a suicide mission, but she doesn't want to be safe. She couldn't get more enjoyment from anything other than a suicide mission of galactic proportions... but that's not loyalty. She doesn't care about Shepard's goals, the mission, the lives at stake.

All she cares about is living dangerously, and in Shepard's company, she can do that.

Modifié par Asenza, 04 octobre 2011 - 02:16 .

[1136342t54_]

RagnarsGirl wrote...
Meld lol I hate that word.
If you going to use the selfish meter, then you need to apply it properly.

Yes she wants to meld(lol) with shep but that's not the only reason she stays.
Besides she knows it will kill him-she'll always want to but never really go through with it.

You do know that Morinth actually does go through with it and kills Shepard in the game right?

[RagnarsGirl]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...
Meld lol I hate that word.
If you going to use the selfish meter, then you need to apply it properly.

Yes she wants to meld(lol) with shep but that's not the only reason she stays.
Besides she knows it will kill him-she'll always want to but never really go through with it.

You do know that Morinth actually does go through with it and kills Shepard in the game right?

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

Did anyone forget that the information we gained from our date with Morinth?

- she likes to go to dark, dangerous places in the pursuit of power.
- she scorns safety and doesn't understand people who crave it.
- Morinth also likes to kill.

All the above is satisfied by joining Shepard's quest.

That's not loyalty. That's using Shepard because she can get enjoyment by going to dark, dangerous places, fighting and killing others all the while satisfying the minor debt of gratitude she feels towards Shepard for killing her mother.

Yes, its a suicide mission, but she doesn't want to be safe. She couldn't get more enjoyment from anything other than a suicide mission of galactic proportions... but that's not loyalty. She doesn't care about Shepard's goals, the mission, the lives at stake.

All she cares about is living dangerously, and in Shepard's company, she can do that.

The fact that she likes Shepard so much and is there for him instead of the mission is so much more better. Does she enjoy helping Shepard? Perhaps. Is it worth life JUST because it is interesting? No, here comes gratitude.

[1136342t54_]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

You are on a MORINTH FAN THREAD lol. ME2 has been out a while and if you are on a fan thread dedicated to Morinth expect some spoilers about the character lol.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

You are on a MORINTH FAN THREAD lol. ME2 has been out a while and if you are on a fan thread dedicated to Morinth expect some spoilers about the character lol.

Just listen to me and all will be clear. 

[RagnarsGirl]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

You are on a MORINTH FAN THREAD lol. ME2 has been out a while and if you are on a fan thread dedicated to Morinth expect some spoilers about the character lol.

I was being sarcastic, clearly it's not working. lol
That's probably the third time you've mentioned me not playing the game. Which I have. Are you the ME police?

Are you a fan?

[D.Kain]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

You are on a MORINTH FAN THREAD lol. ME2 has been out a while and if you are on a fan thread dedicated to Morinth expect some spoilers about the character lol.

I was being sarcastic, clearly it's not working. lol
That's probably the third time you've mentioned me not playing the game. Which I have. Are you the ME police?

Are you a fan?

Sure seems like it. 

[1136342t54_]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

You are on a MORINTH FAN THREAD lol. ME2 has been out a while and if you are on a fan thread dedicated to Morinth expect some spoilers about the character lol.

I was being sarcastic, clearly it's not working. lol
That's probably the third time you've mentioned me not playing the game. Which I have. Are you the ME police?

Are you a fan?

My question about you knowing Morinth killed Shepard was rhetorical. I'm a fan of Morinth's I guess you could say initial intelligence and strength. Other than that no she is a remorseless, psychopathic killer that must be destroyed.

[RagnarsGirl]

I'm a Morinth Fan - who believes she's loyal to shep. She is the most volatile(do you know what that means) of all the characters/crewmates yet she conforms - for who? for shep

She loves killing,dark,places,(bad guys), shep doesn't fit the bill completely. he has power. He's not really her type.

[1136342t54_]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

I'm a Morinth Fan - who believes she's loyal to shep. She is the most volatile(do you know what that means) of all the characters/crewmates yet she conforms - for who? for shep

She does it because she sees Shepard as basically the best person she can meld with in the Galaxy and he saved her life. Probably more because of the former. Seriously you are claiming she doesn't want to meld with Shepard but what is the other reasons she stays with Shepard? Sure Shep saved her life but thats it. Morinth has no real empathy for anyone nor care for anyone else. Hell even D.Kain admitted that in a earlier argument.

She loves killing,dark,places,(bad guys), shep doesn't fit the bill completely. he has power. He's not really her type.

It depends on the type of shepard. If he didn't fit the bill she wouldn't want to meld with him.

[Asenza]

RagnarsGirl wrote...

I'm a Morinth Fan - who believes she's loyal to shep. She is the most volatile(do you know what that means) of all the characters/crewmates yet she conforms - for who? for shep

She loves killing,dark,places,(bad guys), shep doesn't fit the bill completely. he has power. He's not really her type.

Volatile- unpredictable. She doesn't conform, and she doesn't like Shepard, she likes what Shepard's quest can give her in the way of entertainment. The suicide mission is an extreme vacation for her.

[RagnarsGirl]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

Oh no you ruined it for me, use this next time. *SPOILER ALERT*

You are on a MORINTH FAN THREAD lol. ME2 has been out a while and if you are on a fan thread dedicated to Morinth expect some spoilers about the character lol.

I was being sarcastic, clearly it's not working. lol
That's probably the third time you've mentioned me not playing the game. Which I have. Are you the ME police?

Are you a fan?

My question about you knowing Morinth killed Shepard was rhetorical. I'm a fan of Morinth's I guess you could say initial intelligence and strength. Other than that no she is a remorseless, psychopathic killer that must be destroyed.

Have you played with Morinth?
Between the two Samara and Morinth Samara fits the bill of remorseless psychopathic killer.

She INVENTED a code for remorseless killing - the Justicars view of justice- please its just silly
Samara hunts her own daughter - can you say crazy much. Samara had her reasons but Morinth wasborn that way.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

I'm a Morinth Fan - who believes she's loyal to shep. She is the most volatile(do you know what that means) of all the characters/crewmates yet she conforms - for who? for shep

She does it because she sees Shepard as basically the best person she can meld with in the Galaxy and he saved her life. Probably more because of the former. Seriously you are claiming she doesn't want to meld with Shepard but what is the other reasons she stays with Shepard? Sure Shep saved her life but thats it. Morinth has no real empathy for anyone nor care for anyone else. Hell even D.Kain admitted that in a earlier argument.

She loves killing,dark,places,(bad guys), shep doesn't fit the bill completely. he has power. He's not really her type.

It depends on the type of shepard. If he didn't fit the bill she wouldn't want to meld with him.

She does want to meld with Shepard, she just doesn't want him to die and in all honesty believes there is a chance. 

[RagnarsGirl]

Asenza wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

I'm a Morinth Fan - who believes she's loyal to shep. She is the most volatile(do you know what that means) of all the characters/crewmates yet she conforms - for who? for shep

She loves killing,dark,places,(bad guys), shep doesn't fit the bill completely. he has power. He's not really her type.

Volatile- unpredictable. She doesn't conform, and she doesn't like Shepard, she likes what Shepard's quest can give her in the way of entertainment. The suicide mission is an extreme vacation for her.

Impersonating her mom and adiding by the ship's rules is such a vacation for her?

Shep lied his way to her apartment he really isn't her type, sure he has power.... BUt dark - thats reaching

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

RagnarsGirl wrote...

I'm a Morinth Fan - who believes she's loyal to shep. She is the most volatile(do you know what that means) of all the characters/crewmates yet she conforms - for who? for shep

She loves killing,dark,places,(bad guys), shep doesn't fit the bill completely. he has power. He's not really her type.

Volatile- unpredictable. She doesn't conform, and she doesn't like Shepard, she likes what Shepard's quest can give her in the way of entertainment. The suicide mission is an extreme vacation for her.

Short answer? No.