878 Antworten in diesem Thema

[Xilizhra]

However I think Samara gets a bit of a free pass just because people like the idea of what she does. I find her heinous. Morinth is heinous too, but at least she doesn't try to pretend she's anything but a predator.

I'm similar but opposite in that I find both of them highly tragic/sympathetic because of that.

I find her more entertaining and likable than Samara. She has more personality, more emotion, and a love her flair when she drops the facade. If you take her to Tuchanka she will break her cover a bit.

More that she's willing to show, at any rate.

I wish that Shepard could survive melding with her because I'd love to see how it would affect her to find someone she can be with. Her sociopathy is the natural result of the way she lives. People can never be equal to her, they can never be people, just things. Someone who could survive would be a totally different experience for her.

I don't see it as impossible with the right brain enhancements, though it'd be sort of tricky, experimental, and would be looked upon highly dubiously. But if we can figure out what exactly causes the death (my personal theory is that eezo molecules mistakenly implant themselves in the center of the Ardat-Yakshi's brain that deals with melding, thus causing them to flare up and riddle their partner's brain with micro-singularities during melding), it could be protected against.

[thatguy212]

I wonder if at anytime bioware had planned to have Morinth be herself when she joined shepard, where's didymos when you need him

[Xilizhra]

I always found it sort of amusing how disdainfully Morinth referred to Samara's outfit... I suspect it wasn't actually made for fanservice as such, for reasons Cheez more fully elaborated on in some other post somewhere. Something to do with it being a symbol of maternity or the like.

And I'd be tempted to romance Morinth in an alternate playthrough as well. Of course, I'd do the same for Samara...

[Xilizhra]

I meant it wasn't intended as fanservice by the asari, in-universe. The designers made it to be fanservicey, yes.

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I meant it wasn't intended as fanservice by the asari, in-universe. The designers made it to be fanservicey, yes.

Yes, it's called asari are ****s and seeing as Justicars represent the ultimate asari virtues it makes sense that they'd dress like strippers.

Ugh. Really, you're above sexism, Saphra.

[Xilizhra]

Well, I'm not sure which of two potential bleeped-out words you're using, and one is noticeably more female-specific.

In any case, that's way too dismissive. Asari may be more open about their sexuality than many other species, but that's not necessarily (or even usually) a bad thing. It works for their culture and biology.

[HiroVoid]

It's pretty dang hard to sympathize with Morinth compared to Samara considering at least Samara seems to find loopholes to 'not kill innocent people' like when you recruit her. I doubt Morinth goes around saying 'Hmm...I wonder how I could not kill these people?' or "Maybe I shouldn't put this entire village under my control...'. Heck, if she's so powerful, she could just become a mercenary, and have sex with slavers or whatever to satiate her needs. Doing it to an innocent girl with a bright future doesn't seem like she really cares who she does it to.

[Xilizhra]

HiroVoid wrote...

It's pretty dang hard to sympathize with Morinth compared to Samara considering at least Samara seems to find loopholes to 'not kill innocent people' like when you recruit her. I doubt Morinth goes around saying 'Hmm...I wonder how I could not kill these people?' or "Maybe I shouldn't put this entire village under my control...'. Heck, if she's so powerful, she could just become a mercenary, and have sex with slavers or whatever to satiate her needs. Doing it to an innocent girl with a bright future doesn't seem like she really cares who she does it to.

She does seem to take in their memories and suchlike. I wonder too if she thought that Nef would be doomed on Omega anyway.

It's to the deteriment of everyone else. Hell, it's not even good for them if you are to believe Matriarch Aetheyta.

It's good for my Shepard, certainly, and plenty of others who've found love/pleasure with asari. As for Aethyta, she mentioned mercenary work in the same breath as stripping, so she clearly wasn't just talking about sex, but about general aimlessness.

Bearbeitet von Xilizhra, 23 September 2011 - 06:06 .

[Sepewrath]

Well on the whole fan service conversation happening, from what I see, any time a female character's body is exposed its fan service. Is there ever a point when its not fan service? That they just decided that its a good look for a character? That they have one of those weird artistic visions and its not just "look boobs" as everyone claims it always is.

I was reading something early that Cliffy B said about women in Gears and how their representation has shown that gaming is growing up. And I couldn't agree with it, because its that kind of thought pattern and the thoughts of the audience that anything less than dressing like a noun is fan service, that is keeping gaming from growing up. If I see scantily clad woman outside, I don't just assume she is wearing that to get attention, maybe she is just comfortable in those clothes. As long as people continue to only be concerned over how women are physically presented in games and don't seem to give two s***s about the character, gaming is never going to move forward.

And to be on topic I guess, I don't think an Ardat Yakshi can be cured. You cant cure genetic disease in a full grown person and since they cant figure it out before their born, that's make curing it impossible. At least not until another massive advancement in medicine and bio engineering.

[Xilizhra]

And to be on topic I guess, I don't think an Ardat Yakshi can be cured. You cant cure genetic disease in a full grown person and since they cant figure it out before their born, that's make curing it impossible. At least not until another massive advancement in medicine and bio engineering.

That's no reason to not try, and especially no reason to not let the asari get help from salarians and, to a lesser extent, humans, who are generally better at that kind of thing.

[Xilizhra]

Given that Ardat-Yakshi are incapable of reproduction, I'm not sure how they could be the genetic destiny of anything...

[who would know]

Sepewrath wrote...

As long as people continue to only be concerned over how women are physically presented in games and don't seem to give two s***s about the character, gaming is never going to move forward.

For someone with Jack as your avatar, you should know that appearances can and should say something about a character before that character even opens her mouth. The shell that contains the character is the first hint as to what it contains.

Bearbeitet von who would know, 23 September 2011 - 06:51 .

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Given that Ardat-Yakshi are incapable of reproduction, I'm not sure how they could be the genetic destiny of anything...

Now you're getting it.

Ah, right, you hate the asari.
Personally, I'd just like to see them cured.

[who would know]

Always thought Morinth's "genetic destiny" line reeked of desperation and delusion. Never took it seriously. I do however, like the character, in part because the game wants me so badly not to, but also because her commando armor is badass and sexy and practical, and because her voice sounds so much more warm and real.

Just too bad she has to go undercover as mom.

Why should that be an issue, anyway? Morinth wants to impersonate her mom so the crew isn't disturbed by her presence, but why should she accomodate them? It was Shepard's call. Why couldn't the crew respect that?

Bearbeitet von who would know, 23 September 2011 - 06:52 .

[Xilizhra]

Why is that an issue, anyway? Morinth wants to impersonate her mom so the crew isn't disturbed by her presence, but why should she accomodate them? It was Shepard's call. Why couldn't the crew respect that?

Because Shepard might theoretically kill any of them next.