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[Sepewrath]

Ah poor Rachel, she ends up in such bad spot. Anyway, that character design for her is definitely for a reason, the same way Wesker always wears shades. so they can do the red eye thing every now and then. Problem with people is they jump to conclusions with no data to back up their claims.

@EternalAmbiguity

Don't ask me, I chose not to bring up the very unrealistic depictions of humans in paintings and sculpture and chose to stick to video games and movies if they want to go that far. And I would agree that fiction should simply stick within its agreed bounds, but they set those bounds. If this universe had been created with people being able to fly and shoot lasers from their crotch, then that's that, its real for that universe.

And ME has a lot of wiggle in regards to stretching reality based on its premise alone, their not crossing the line because someone has long hair. I mean this is a series where someone died and came back to life 2yrs later.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

Sepewrath wrote...

Ah poor Rachel, she ends up in such bad spot. Anyway, that character design for her is definitely for a reason, the same way Wesker always wears shades. so they can do the red eye thing every now and then. Problem with people is they jump to conclusions with no data to back up their claims.

@EternalAmbiguity

Don't ask me, I chose not to bring up the very unrealistic depictions of humans in paintings and sculpture and chose to stick to video games and movies if they want to go that far. And I would agree that fiction should simply stick within its agreed bounds, but they set those bounds. If this universe had been created with people being able to fly and shoot lasers from their crotch, then that's that, its real for that universe.

And ME has a lot of wiggle in regards to stretching reality based on its premise alone, their not crossing the line because someone has long hair. I mean this is a series where someone died and came back to life 2yrs later.

Oh I know! I'm not one of those people who just jump to conclusions. I also believe that her hair is covering her eyes for a reason. I already made a topic with possible theories that came to my mind on Resident Evil forum (not sure I'm allowed to name it here). Again, I don't mind characters being over the top and sexualized. I pretty much always like that type of character, I even like Rachel. I was just trying to show that Ashley indeed has been dolled up, she looks more relaxed, secure and comfortable with her feminine side while still looking respectable and not over the top. 

[Sepewrath]

What I liked about Rachel was the fact that she was terrified, after like 50 RE games, where people see giant monsters and their response is "eh whatever" it was interesting to see someone actually freaking out lol. That's why I hope the trailer isn't it for her, I hope she has a bigger role in the game as a playable character.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

jreezy wrote...

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iakus wrote...

jreezy wrote...

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monrapias wrote...

I can't believe that people care so much about her hair. (except for the female members here)

It's just hair.

But it isn't just hair; it's her personality.

Sorry but it is just hair. Making assumptions of someone's personality based on their appearance seems pretty shallow.

Video games are a visual medium.  To an extent, how characters appear reflects who they are.  Especially with Bioware's "iconic looks" fascination.  

Ashley was a practical, hard nosed soldier.  Simple, direct, uncompromising.  Her appearance (well except for the coloration of the armor) reflected this.  Hair in a bun.  Nice solid armor and a big gun.  

The hair flies in the face of that.  Literally.  It's not that the hair is long, or that it's worn down.  Or even if it's worn that way casually.  It's that it's flying around loose like "Renegon brand shampoo and conditioner" commercial.  As seen in that demo, it obscures half her face.  This is neither practical nor professional.  It is not Ash.  

And it's not just hair.

I understand where you're coming from. When March 6th rolls around I'll find out first hand whether the Ashley from Mass Effect 1 & 2 is not the same as I remember. Until then I refuse to judge her based off of her appearance. So for right now, I must disagree about the significance of the hair.

It isn't just the hair though. It's also the "armor." The Ash we know would never wear something like that into battle.

You don't know that though.

I don't have it in front of me, but there is a direct quote of Ashley saying (about asari commandos), "Unless those suits can stop a bullet, I'm more inclined to stick with thick armor and a large gun."

Yes, but people change, they grow. Ashley also used to be a xenophobe but in the end she says that she would gladly give her life for any one of those aliens.
Ashley looks like she grew up and now she's more comfortable in her own skin now. She let her hair down, literally and figurately.

[Almostfaceman]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I don't have it in front of me, but there is a direct quote of Ashley saying (about asari commandos), "Unless those suits can stop a bullet, I'm more inclined to stick with thick armor and a large gun."

I know, and it's completely unreasonable that she could change her mind. 'cause that never happens.

My vote is we stop pigeon-holing Ash.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

Sepewrath wrote...

What I liked about Rachel was the fact that she was terrified, after like 50 RE games, where people see giant monsters and their response is "eh whatever" it was interesting to see someone actually freaking out lol. That's why I hope the trailer isn't it for her, I hope she has a bigger role in the game as a playable character.

Lol yeah! And I doubt it is. If she was going to get killed off in the first 10 minutes of the game, I doubt she would get all this promo and attention. She has a render, her own slot on the website among the main cast and a trailer dedicated to her. Also, in the magazine that revealed her name it said that she'll play a big role and someone who was at TGS said that Capcom said the same thing. 

Modifié par PsychoHitsPeach, 25 septembre 2011 - 04:35 .

[Xeranx]

jreezy wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...



I don't have it in front of me, but there is a direct quote of Ashley saying (about asari commandos), "Unless those suits can stop a bullet, I'm more inclined to stick with thick armor and a large gun."

What does that have to do with her hair changing her personality?

It's not about the hair.  It's about what it plus her outfit represents or tells those who appreciated her character from ME.  In short it's her whole look, but the hair serves as a poignant lead in to how her character might have been changed given what was shown at E3.  If her hair was down during the trial and pulled up when she was on the Normandy no one would say anything about having doubts as to whether Ashley's practical nature is being preserved.  At the very least, the obvious heels that were shown in that clip would have been forgiven.  

The idea Ashely didn't take the time to loosely keep her hair out of her face in a time of danger says that the developers aren't aware of who Ashley is as they're more interested in what they possibly want her to be.  Couple that with statements coming from Walters about using the wiki for info and you invite some concern as to where you're taking the series.  Yes, some of us wanted her to have her hair down, but all of us do not want a gutting of her character (read personality).

[Almostfaceman]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

*sigh* lemme try to answer your replies here...

*snip*

Sure they wear less armor, I saw her doing so in the demo when she picks up Shepard.

Good old Ash knows she's going to live and die just as much with or without the armor pixels. It's all good.

[Gabey5]

she is a spectre now and can wear her hair as she likes

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Gabey5 wrote...

she is a spectre now and can wear her hair as she likes

Actually, I always wear an eyepatch when I play Team Paintball. Makes my shots go way off-target. My team hates me for it, but I'm carefree and awesome.

Good compromise imo.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 25 septembre 2011 - 05:34 .

[Almostfaceman]

jreezy wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

*sigh* lemme try to answer your replies here...

*snip*

Sure they wear less armor, I saw her doing so in the demo when she picks up Shepard.

Good old Ash knows she's going to live and die just as much with or without the armor pixels. It's all good.

Not sure if you're serious or not. I'll go with not.

Right, I'm not. Because it's not worth getting serious about.

I love ME1. I'm playing it right now. The female characters are hot in their thin flexible flimsy armor. Sexy. The armor isn't believable. It doesn't look like anything that would stop bullets/rockets/energy beams with or without shields. So I do not mourn its absence. I say give up the pretense and just go with making the characters more fun to look at instead of everyone looking the same in boring motorcyle suit armor.

[Iakus]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I don't have it in front of me, but there is a direct quote of Ashley saying (about asari commandos), "Unless those suits can stop a bullet, I'm more inclined to stick with thick armor and a large gun."

::points to sig::

Can Ash outun bullets in ME3?

[Zanallen]

Wait, didn't the devs say that Ashley would have a suit of armor as well as her catsuit?

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Almostfaceman wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

*sigh* lemme try to answer your replies here...

*snip*

Sure they wear less armor, I saw her doing so in the demo when she picks up Shepard.

Good old Ash knows she's going to live and die just as much with or without the armor pixels. It's all good.

Not sure if you're serious or not. I'll go with not.

Right, I'm not. Because it's not worth getting serious about.

I love ME1. I'm playing it right now. The female characters are hot in their thin flexible flimsy armor. Sexy. The armor isn't believable. It doesn't look like anything that would stop bullets/rockets/energy beams with or without shields. So I do not mourn its absence. I say give up the pretense and just go with making the characters more fun to look at instead of everyone looking the same in boring motorcyle suit armor.

Tomato, tomato.

Also, every male character's getting solid-looking armor in ME3 (going from what we've seen). I don't think Kaidan's is boring motorcycle suit armor. Then again, I'm a straight dude, so I'm not advocating fishnets and bare chests for all characters.

[Iakus]

Zanallen wrote...

Wait, didn't the devs say that Ashley would have a suit of armor as well as her catsuit?

Unclear.  We are told she will have "armor" What that armor looks like is unknown.  But there is little reason to think the "catsuit" isn't the armor.  Particularly since she's female.

[Sgt Stryker]

iakus wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Wait, didn't the devs say that Ashley would have a suit of armor as well as her catsuit?

Unclear.  We are told she will have "armor" What that armor looks like is unknown.  But there is little reason to think the "catsuit" isn't the armor.  Particularly since she's female.

The optimist in me wants to believe that this is what BioWare means when they say armor. 

My pessimist side fears that this is what they mean when they say armor. 

[Kail Ashton]

My thoughts: Bioware finaly hired compitent model programmers who actually know what actual hair looks like as oposed to "stiff, plastic neck length or tied back only cause anything else is too complicated despite the technology being common place for 2 generations now"

Or they just hired the mod community who've always been better then bioware's payed programmers

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 25 septembre 2011 - 06:22 .