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[Tarisch]

Hallusinaatti wrote...

I liked Ashley better when she didn't look like a barbie doll. She was good when she was realistic.

This. nothing more to say.

[happy_daiz]

So...in a video game set in the future, there's no way a woman (who, as we know, are all predisposed to changing our minds) couldn't change our hair, makeup, or clothes? I look nothing like I did when ME1 or ME2 came out, why are we expecting the same thing from Ashley? This thread is so weird.

And OMG, with my "weird" comment, I just channeled Kelly Bensimon (previously) from the Real Housewives of New York. Someone please shoot me now.

[Gh0st_00]

happy_daiz wrote...

 change

See there's your problem.

Modifié par Gh0st_00, 24 septembre 2011 - 01:58 .

[1136342t54_]

SandTrout wrote...
On most characters, I could understand this as a line of thinking. However, in Ashley's case it is directly contradictory to her attitude toward combat. I believe it is one of the elevator conversations where she states that she'd prefer thick armor and firepower to agility in a firefight.

If she had Tela Vasir's armor, or something along the same lines, I would be 100% in support of it, but from what we know right now, she's wearing less armor than Liara, which is out of character.

Remember she is a Spectre now. Ash may like thicker armor so she absorb more damage to distract the enemy from her teammates. Now she is a Spectre and may be more stealth oriented and would actually want to put out a large amount of damage on the enemy for a short time then move. It depends on how much her battle strategy have changed. 

Now this is all conjecture and hell that outfit is likely not even the heaviest armor she can wear. One of the Bioware devs alluded to that possibility. Of course Vasir's armor wouldn't work for some people since it appears to have heels lol.

[Carfax]

It's threads like these that make me affirm my support for a canon MaleShep, should Bioware ever decide to canonize Shepard. 


9 pages about a freaking hair style!  Female characters always suffer from the excessive focus on their physical attributes.

Modifié par Carfax, 24 septembre 2011 - 02:36 .

[Iakus]

happy_daiz wrote...

So...in a video game set in the future, there's no way a woman (who, as we know, are all predisposed to changing our minds) couldn't change our hair, makeup, or clothes? I look nothing like I did when ME1 or ME2 came out, why are we expecting the same thing from Ashley? This thread is so weird.

And OMG, with my "weird" comment, I just channeled Kelly Bensimon (previously) from the Real Housewives of New York. Someone please shoot me now.

I among others, have said that her new look is fine as casualwear.  IF she wants to wear that on the Normandy or strolling along the Citadel, fine.  But in a shootout?  Practical, "thick armor and a big gun" Ashley?  That's not her character.  Might as well put Grunt in Kasumi's outfit.

[jeweledleah]

1136342t54 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...
On most characters, I could understand this as a line of thinking. However, in Ashley's case it is directly contradictory to her attitude toward combat. I believe it is one of the elevator conversations where she states that she'd prefer thick armor and firepower to agility in a firefight.

If she had Tela Vasir's armor, or something along the same lines, I would be 100% in support of it, but from what we know right now, she's wearing less armor than Liara, which is out of character.

Remember she is a Spectre now. Ash may like thicker armor so she absorb more damage to distract the enemy from her teammates. Now she is a Spectre and may be more stealth oriented and would actually want to put out a large amount of damage on the enemy for a short time then move. It depends on how much her battle strategy have changed. 

Now this is all conjecture and hell that outfit is likely not even the heaviest armor she can wear. One of the Bioware devs alluded to that possibility. Of course Vasir's armor wouldn't work for some people since it appears to have heels lol.

I have to ask the same question i keep asking everyone saying "well she's a spectre now"  Kaidan is a spectre now. within alliance, he holds higher rank.  he's a biotic to boot.  A sentinel.  Ash is a soldier.  Ash has been confirmed to be a soldier class.  they both should techincaly have the same resources when it comes to spectre gear.  how come he gets nice thick armor and Ash doesn't.  and of course... there's Shepard, clad in nice heavy armor.  so explain to me - what possible reasons other then "we want her to look sexier" are there for Ash tolook the way she does?  oh yeah, Vega the soldier.  also wears heavy armor.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 24 septembre 2011 - 02:58 .

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

jreezy wrote...

DJCS wrote...

jreezy wrote...

DJCS wrote...

 I miss Grunt already.. 

So why'd you comment here?

Cause there were people talking about Vega being the new tank.

Oh yeah Grunt was the tank in ME2. I would say I prefer Grunt over Vega but I don't know anything about him so I won't pass judgement about who's better just yet.

I wasn't either, don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving Vega a chance. I'm just bummed cause it feels like one of my favorite characters is getting shafted.

Modifié par DJCS, 24 septembre 2011 - 03:16 .

[Pockles]

happy_daiz wrote...

So...in a video game set in the future, there's no way a woman (who, as we know, are all predisposed to changing our minds) couldn't change our hair, makeup, or clothes? I look nothing like I did when ME1 or ME2 came out, why are we expecting the same thing from Ashley? This thread is so weird.

And OMG, with my "weird" comment, I just channeled Kelly Bensimon (previously) from the Real Housewives of New York. Someone please shoot me now.

It's not the plausibility of the change, it's the nature of the change itself. I like her new design. I don't like the idea of Ashley going into battle with no armor and hair in her face.

I liked ME1's "hardsuits for everyone" approach when going groundside, but you can get creative with a character's design while still making it look practical. Liara's LOTSB outfit, for instance.

[Iakus]

jeweledleah wrote...

I have to ask the same question i keep asking everyone saying "well she's a spectre now"  Kaidan is a spectre now. within alliance, he holds higher rank.  he's a biotic to boot.  A sentinel.  Ash is a soldier.  Ash has been confirmed to be a soldier class.  they both should techincaly have the same resources when it comes to spectre gear.  how come he gets nice thick armor and Ash doesn't.  and of course... there's Shepard, clad in nice heavy armor.  so explain to me - what possible reasons other then "we want her to look sexier" are there for Ash tolook the way she does?  oh yeah, Vega the soldier.  also wears heavy armor.

Because she's female, and women in video games must look smokin'  hot.  I think it's a law or something.

Me, if Ash wears the same kind of armor as FemShep, she'll look plenty hot

[KOS-MOS56]

Tarisch wrote...

Hallusinaatti wrote...

I liked Ashley better when she didn't look like a barbie doll. She was good when she was realistic.

This. nothing more to say.

So long hair = Barbie doll ...really? ....that is the deciding factor? Ash is a Strong willed, competent, brash alliance marine with a fiery passionate personality, and now because she has long hair she is a barbie doll? (a repersentation of a grossly disproportionate female form and submissive personality) Ash looks great in ME3, has and awesomely detailed combat suit / armor and is known for her leathality as a soldier, or maybe you saw a different trailer where she is running around in a chainmail bikini and throwing lolipops at the enemy.

Modifié par KOS-MOS56, 24 septembre 2011 - 04:31 .

[1136342t54_]

jeweledleah wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...
On most characters, I could understand this as a line of thinking. However, in Ashley's case it is directly contradictory to her attitude toward combat. I believe it is one of the elevator conversations where she states that she'd prefer thick armor and firepower to agility in a firefight.

If she had Tela Vasir's armor, or something along the same lines, I would be 100% in support of it, but from what we know right now, she's wearing less armor than Liara, which is out of character.

Remember she is a Spectre now. Ash may like thicker armor so she absorb more damage to distract the enemy from her teammates. Now she is a Spectre and may be more stealth oriented and would actually want to put out a large amount of damage on the enemy for a short time then move. It depends on how much her battle strategy have changed. 

Now this is all conjecture and hell that outfit is likely not even the heaviest armor she can wear. One of the Bioware devs alluded to that possibility. Of course Vasir's armor wouldn't work for some people since it appears to have heels lol.

I have to ask the same question i keep asking everyone saying "well she's a spectre now"  Kaidan is a spectre now. within alliance, he holds higher rank.  he's a biotic to boot.  A sentinel.  Ash is a soldier.  Ash has been confirmed to be a soldier class.  they both should techincaly have the same resources when it comes to spectre gear.  how come he gets nice thick armor and Ash doesn't.  and of course... there's Shepard, clad in nice heavy armor.  so explain to me - what possible reasons other then "we want her to look sexier" are there for Ash tolook the way she does?  oh yeah, Vega the soldier.  also wears heavy armor.

I just explained the reason why. Remember in ME1 Kaidan didn't wear armor even remotely as heavy as that. It isn't a matter of resources it is a matter of strategy. I explained a possible reason for her to wear light armor.

[jeweledleah]

what sort of strategy would require her to go into combat with exposed cleavage, hair in her face and heels?

[firefireblow]

ok she let her hair down. at least it isnt.......

[Sajuro]

Tarisch wrote...

Hallusinaatti wrote...

I liked Ashley better when she didn't look like a barbie doll. She was good when she was realistic.

This. nothing more to say.

The marine who wore white and pink armor while complaining about how the reason she never gets promoted is because of her grandfather and not the fact that she doesn't feel the need to wear the standard uniform?

[Sajuro]

jeweledleah wrote...

what sort of strategy would require her to go into combat with exposed cleavage, hair in her face and heels?

the good kind

[Iakus]

Sajuro wrote...

Tarisch wrote...

Hallusinaatti wrote...

I liked Ashley better when she didn't look like a barbie doll. She was good when she was realistic.

This. nothing more to say.

The marine who wore white and pink armor  while complaining about how the reason she never gets promoted is because of her grandfather and not the fact that she doesn't feel the need to wear the standard uniform?

That's the important part.  It was ugly armor.  But it was armor.  Heck it increased her health regeneration too!

Modifié par iakus, 24 septembre 2011 - 05:07 .

[Sajuro]

iakus wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Tarisch wrote...

Hallusinaatti wrote...

I liked Ashley better when she didn't look like a barbie doll. She was good when she was realistic.

This. nothing more to say.

The marine who wore white and pink armor  while complaining about how the reason she never gets promoted is because of her grandfather and not the fact that she doesn't feel the need to wear the standard uniform?

That's the important part.  It was ugly armor.  But it was armor.  Heck it increased her health regeneration too!

Not because it was ugly armor, but because she wanted to distinguish herself from the other marines so the Geth would know she was a main character. I haven't seen new Ashley in action yet, so I will reserve judgement on ME3 but, damn that armor was girly.

[Iakus]

Sajuro wrote...

Not because it was ugly armor, but because she wanted to distinguish herself from the other marines so the Geth would know she was a main character. I haven't seen new Ashley in action yet, so I will reserve judgement on ME3 but, damn that armor was girly.

If in ME3 Ash gets to wear a female version of Kaidan's new "I can take on a platoon of batarian slavers all by myself" armor I will withdraw all complaints of Ash.  All is forgiven.  Even some of the ME2 stuff.

If in ME3 Ash ends up wearing Onyx armor like Kaidan in ME2, or modified N7 armor like Shepard, or Kestrel armor, Or armor like Tela Vasir in LOTSB I'll be so happy even the stupid loose hair will be at least tolerable.

If Ash ends up wearing Phoenix armor again, well, I'll be slightly disappointed, but ugly armor's better than none at all.  

If the blue thing is her armor, I'm not playing ME3 until a mod is available to turn it into real armor.  In that jacket thing, she looks only slightly better armored than Thane.  

[Sajuro]

iakus wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Not because it was ugly armor, but because she wanted to distinguish herself from the other marines so the Geth would know she was a main character. I haven't seen new Ashley in action yet, so I will reserve judgement on ME3 but, damn that armor was girly.

If in ME3 Ash gets to wear a female version of Kaidan's new "I can take on a platoon of batarian slavers all by myself" armor I will withdraw all complaints of Ash.  All is forgiven.  Even some of the ME2 stuff.

If in ME3 Ash ends up wearing Onyx armor like Kaidan in ME2, or modified N7 armor like Shepard, or Kestrel armor, Or armor like Tela Vasir in LOTSB I'll be so happy even the stupid loose hair will be at least tolerable.

If Ash ends up wearing Phoenix armor again, well, I'll be slightly disappointed, but ugly armor's better than none at all.  

If the blue thing is her armor, I'm not playing ME3 until a mod is available to turn it into real armor.  In that jacket thing, she looks only slightly better armored than Thane.  

can I have your copy then?

[Iakus]

 No.  I'm spiteful that way.

Besides, someone may actually come up with a mod to give her one of those armors...

[Sajuro]

iakus wrote...

 No.  I'm spiteful that way.

Besides, someone may actually come up with a mod to give her one of those armors...

.....
I don't use mods in my games, and not just because I play on the xbox

[Iakus]

Sajuro wrote...

iakus wrote...

 No.  I'm spiteful that way.

Besides, someone may actually come up with a mod to give her one of those armors...

.....
I don't use mods in my games, and not just because I play on the xbox

PC player here.  

I can't play ME2 anymore without using a mod for Samara's armor.  Well, not while she's a squadmate anyway. The same was true for Miranda before AAP2.  Here's hoping Ash doesn't end up the same.

Modifié par iakus, 24 septembre 2011 - 05:53 .