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[varcety]

How come the Zevran quest in Dragon Age 2(A Murder of Crows) still occurs even though I killed him in DA: O?

I checked the Wiki and it seems I'm the only one who encountered that bug. Strange.

Modifié par varcety, 23 septembre 2011 - 11:22 .

[esper]

It is a known bug, but you are not the only one encountering it.

[varcety]

esper wrote...

It is a known bug, but you are not the only one encountering it.

Oh. Well the quest's page on the wiki doesn't list this bug in the bug section.

[GodWood]

At least it's not canon that he cannot die unlike a certain ranga.

[Nauks]

You obviously made one of the wrong DaOrigin choices and now the game is correcting it for yiou >

Modifié par Nauks, 24 septembre 2011 - 06:06 .

[devilsgrin]

Nauks wrote...

You obviously made one of the wrong DaOrigin choices and now the game is correcting it for yiou >

lol, yep, this ^^^^^

[teenparty]

It's strange how easy it is to kill Zevran when he is hands down the greatest character in Dragon Age. He is a much better friend than mr. I'm-gonna-let-you-make-all-the-hard-choices-and-then-yell-at-you-for-making-the-wrong-ones-Alistair.

Modifié par teenparty, 24 septembre 2011 - 02:53 .

[ColGali]

 FYI this bug still exists. It's ridiculous... I can only hope that I didn't kill Fenris and Anders for nothing like it was with Zevran...

[ejoslin]

Zevran is completely bugged. He's alive for those who killed him, and he's forgotten about the romance for those who romanced him unless Isabela is in the party, in which case he thinks the romanced warden is dead even if the warden is alive. Yes, they know about these bugs. No, they apparently don't care. The fact that these bugs weren't addressed made me care about the series a whole lot less, which is too bad.

Modifié par ejoslin, 05 décembre 2011 - 08:49 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

He managed to stay dead for me. And also then alive later on when I loaded the appropraite import.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 05 décembre 2011 - 11:08 .

[ColGali]

ejoslin wrote...

Zevran is completely bugged. He's alive for those who killed him, and he's forgotten about the romance for those who romanced him unless Isabela is in the party, in which case he thinks the romanced warden is dead even if the warden is alive. Yes, they know about these bugs. No, they apparently don't care. The fact that these bugs weren't addressed made me care about the series a whole lot less, which is too bad.

I can't believe they don't care. But apparently they really don't...

[SkittlesKat96]

inb4 exaggerations, lies, misinformation and/or 'EAWARE IS EVIL RARARARHRHHG'

ejoslin wrote...

Zevran is completely bugged. He's alive for those who killed him, and he's forgotten about the romance for those who romanced him unless Isabela is in the party, in which case he thinks the romanced warden is dead even if the warden is alive. Yes, they know about these bugs. No, they apparently don't care. The fact that these bugs weren't addressed made me care about the series a whole lot less, which is too bad.

too late

[ejoslin]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

inb4 exaggerations, lies, misinformation and/or 'EAWARE IS EVIL RARARARHRHHG'

ejoslin wrote...

Zevran is completely bugged. He's alive for those who killed him, and he's forgotten about the romance for those who romanced him unless Isabela is in the party, in which case he thinks the romanced warden is dead even if the warden is alive. Yes, they know about these bugs. No, they apparently don't care. The fact that these bugs weren't addressed made me care about the series a whole lot less, which is too bad.

too late

The only thing that *may* be incorrect here is the thing about him being still alive -- but since people are complaining about it in this thread so it's happening to SOME people, I felt it was a safe bet to include it.  The rest of what I said I can verify as completely accurate, down to the devs knowing about these bugs and choosing not to repair them (which does point to apathy about them).  

I certainly don't think Bioware is evil, however.  They're a company that develops games.  I do care less about the series because of bugs like these, and I'm not sure why you think that's hating on a company.  But whatever.  

Edit: Grammar

Modifié par ejoslin, 07 décembre 2011 - 03:40 .

[hoorayforicecream]

ColGali wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Zevran is completely bugged. He's alive for those who killed him, and he's forgotten about the romance for those who romanced him unless Isabela is in the party, in which case he thinks the romanced warden is dead even if the warden is alive. Yes, they know about these bugs. No, they apparently don't care. The fact that these bugs weren't addressed made me care about the series a whole lot less, which is too bad.

I can't believe they don't care. But apparently they really don't...

It isn't that they don't care, it's that the amount of effort to fix this bug is gargantuan. The bug in the import flags isn't in DA2, it's in DAO and DAA. In order to fix this bug, they would have to patch DAO and DAA to set the flags correctly, which may require another playthrough of DAO and DAA on your part to get a save game with the correct flags. In order to patch the old games, they need to run them in their entirety through QA to make sure the patch doesn't break anything else, not to mention certification passes for console games. It's a logistical nightmare.

[ejoslin]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

ColGali wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Zevran is completely bugged. He's alive for those who killed him, and he's forgotten about the romance for those who romanced him unless Isabela is in the party, in which case he thinks the romanced warden is dead even if the warden is alive. Yes, they know about these bugs. No, they apparently don't care. The fact that these bugs weren't addressed made me care about the series a whole lot less, which is too bad.

I can't believe they don't care. But apparently they really don't...

It isn't that they don't care, it's that the amount of effort to fix this bug is gargantuan. The bug in the import flags isn't in DA2, it's in DAO and DAA. In order to fix this bug, they would have to patch DAO and DAA to set the flags correctly, which may require another playthrough of DAO and DAA on your part to get a save game with the correct flags. In order to patch the old games, they need to run them in their entirety through QA to make sure the patch doesn't break anything else, not to mention certification passes for console games. It's a logistical nightmare.

Zevran's bugs are not only due to this -- he has dialog bugs as well.  The import flag can be cobbled together (and I believe that has been done) by dropping the approval level requirement in the defined flag as the mod that "fixed" them did.  It's not that the "romance active" flag was not imported -- it was.  BUT the "in love" flag and "still in love" flag were not used; instead DA2 needed the approval level, which was NOT imported to Awakening which caused all sorts of problems. So to get the romances recognized in DA2, they needed to just drop the approval level part of the new defined flag.  I believe that was done (I'm not sure as I have not played DA2 since the most recent patch).  HOWEVER, I am talking about entirely different bugs with Zevran.  Where, as I stated, if Isabela is in the party, Zevran recognizes the romance but thinks the warden did the ultimate sacrifice, even if the warden is alive.  However, he still responds to Hawke's flirting (though alternate dialog in the talk table suggests that this is NOT supposed to happen).  On the plus side, he now gets the correct codex.

I do have an idea of HOW to fix those bugs, but without a toolset, it's not going to happen, at least not from me.

Modifié par ejoslin, 07 décembre 2011 - 10:18 .