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[taetertot]

As a preface, I've had this game forever, got pretty far into it several times, but never finished it. I just started a new playthrough, and plan on finishing this time. Anyway, I'd like to go to Orzammar for Oghren and some nice items, but I remember from earlier playthroughs how hard Orzammar was. Others have remarked on this I think, that Orzammar is such a leap up in difficulty from the others.

Right now I'm a lvl 10 rogue archer. I've done Mages Circle, Warden's Keep, and Shale. Wondering if I can do Orzammar now, or if I should do Redcliffe first. Everything is very easy right now (on normal diff).

Btw the beginning portion of the Fade was such a pita with this rogue archer. I remember it being easy with a 2H warrior and mage.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

I've done it before on my first quest. It is very difficult. RP reasons can vary from origin to origin.

[GSSAGE7]

Generally, Orzammar is one of the last treaty quests, cause of the guys in the way on the frostback mountains.

[taetertot]

Well it's not a big deal with this character, but if I do another playthrough, I was thinking of doing an evil dwarven dual wielder, and I wanted Oghren in the party asap. Wonder how fast I can get to him though.

One thing that's odd is I have a ton of gifts for Oghren. Got more of his gifts than any other companion. Seems silly to put his gifts early in the game and then him deep into the game. If you don't have Warden's Keep that's a lot of wasted inventory slots.

[Anvos]

To be fair alchol gifts are for everyone. Oghren is just the only alcholic party member.

Anyways personally I agree with the notion that dwarf quest is hard to do first, expecially if you didn't chose mage. As for the current character it was at enough, though you may have to get creative for the first couple battles (easier if your mage already has a shatter combo and healing).

[Addai]

It's pretty hard. I typically didn't do it first, though sometimes I did the first portions (up to getting Paragon of Her Kind) early and then came back and did the Deep Roads portion later in the game.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

I've done it as my first treaty before, but not in my first game. You just have to be prepared and know what you'll need in advance, which makes it easier (though still not easy).

[taetertot]

I really can't imagine doing this as first treaty, even if you know what's coming. Do you lower difficulty to casual when you do this? Because iirc those mobs you encounter have high armor/health, hit hard, have lots of abilities, and you don't have any of your decent skills/spells yet.

Btw can anyone explain how the login system works on this board? Only way I can post here is to go to My Games, where login fails, and then I have to click New Account, enter in my info, and then it tells me the account exists, and that's where I have to log in. If I try to log in any other way, it doesn't stick, I get a can't post, can't access error message. Crazy.

Oh one other question. Usually I have to launch the game and then wait a bit, if I try to load a game too fast I get an error saying DLC not available. But earlier today my net connection died for a while, and I could not log in to my EA account, but my DLC was available. How exactly does this work? Asking here so I don't have to post a new thread, if someone who knows happens to see this I'd appreciate some info.

[Anvos]

Its doable (at least up to normal) but you have to return to camp many times and may have to reload on the bosses of each zone.  Also your gonna have to be prepared to walk through the zones multiple times if you want to open all the chests.

Small shrapnel trap mine fields can also help you alot if you figure out which harder mobs you have time to set up before on.

Modifié par Anvos, 25 septembre 2011 - 08:01 .

[Ferretinabun]

Everyone's first playthrough is always the hardest. Because after that you'll generally have a good idea how to build your warden and companions efficiently.

Though I should say, archer is notoriously the weakest build in DA:O. It's not bad end-game, but other builds get good a lot sooner.

General tips - side with Behlen rather than Harrowmont, because then you don't have to do the Proving fights, and take Alstair, Sten and Morrigan (with Heal) because Leliana is the weakest companion right after Lothering, and you won't get the others til later. If you have the DLC, I do think it is worth grabbing Shale to take instead of Sten before you hit Orzammar too...

[Anvos]

Only thing is if your siding with Branka early shale just doesn't seem right.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

@taetertot - I only play on Normal difficulty. I suggest a rogue with stealth to scout out paths in advance so you don't aggro huge mobs, and decent ranged attacks on everyone. I was playing an archer and brought Leliana, Alistair was on bow until bad guys got into melee which is when he tanked, and Morrigan for magic. Tried to get scattershot and slayer shot (or whatever they were called) ASAP for crowd control and to take down darkspawn casters and bosses. Key is to pull foes and kite, don't run straight into mobs.

Only fights that took a few attempts to win were the Spider Queen, Shriek Bridge and of course Branka/Caridin, but still managed them all without getting frustrated.

[Zaxarus]

Yesterday i finished the paragon quest as first of the 4 fractions. I entered ozrammar at level 8-9 with morrigan, sten and leliana. switching oghren for sten i went on the roads nearly being level 10, myself a dwarven noble warrior (tank), the reason to go there first. difficulty normal. must admit i have a clear advantage using a respec mod so morrigan could be a healer. else i would do circle tower first to get wynne (and the 21 attribute points in the fade).

[Cobwebmaster]

In terms of Blight allies I always make Orzammar my 3rd port of call after The Circle Tower (for the extra stats) and then Redcliffe. Before going to Orzammar I do have a brief stopover in Denerim and do a fewe quests there to build up my xp. As you rightly say Orzammar is a bit of a toughie, but not too much of a problem on the early stages. Personally I find both Sten and Oghren pretty useless as tanks/melee guys as they ekeep getting wiped out. Wynn I find very useful for her buff spells and health support as I do either (or both) Leliana and Zevran assuming you do complementary character builds. Leliana has some nice buffing spells. Mostly I feel sort of obliged to use Oghren from time to time and of course you can't avoid using him in the final stage of the Orzammar quest. Generally 2 melee guys plus an archer/rogue and either Morrigan or Wynn (I've used both) will get you through past the Dead Trenches. Morrigan's blizzard spells are real handy against the boss at the end of the Dead Trenches. After that you can revamp your squad with a preference for big hitters with mage support. I've done it with all big hitters Me (as a warrior) Shale, Oghren and Alastair, and also any combination of those and mage support. I've even done it with Liliana thought there is no real need for a rogue in the Anvil of the Void as there are only a couple of noisy traps and no chests to unlock (I think)

[Cobwebmaster]

Obviously each of us has their own preference for order of play but I will say that if you leave Soldier's peak to the later part of the game (when your stats are at least high enough to don dragonbone armour or when armour or weapons on sale are dragonbone) then you have a better chance of getting Asturian's sword with higher stats and more expansion slots. The same goes for The Return To Ostagar. I agree that there is some great armour which is scaled to your level at Soldiers Peak. If you go there early in the game you can always get Mikhail the blacksmith at the Peak to upgrade it by selling it to him later on  and then buying it back

Modifié par Cobwebmaster, 06 octobre 2011 - 11:51 .