[quote]twistedkatana Created about 1 year ago
I've been trying to figure out why this game is causing my system to
completely shut off. I've left ati catalyst control center open on
my other monitor and I've seen it just go all the way up to 99
degrees C and then kapoot.
windows 7 64 bit
amd athlon x2 6000+ 3.1ghz
ati radeon HD 4830
2gb ddr2 800 ram
ati catalyst 9.11
Now this is new since my previous problem was the game constantly
crashing after several minutes of gameplay when I was on windows XP
just a few days ago. I was kinda desperate to get this thing fixed
and it was about time I did a fresh install of an OS, so I picked
up windows 7 and installed it. The overheating is a problem that
has occourred since upgrading the OS.
I'm really disappointed that I haven't been able to play this game
over the past week or two since I've bought it. Is there anyone
with a similar problem and is there anything I can do about it?
Am I just gonna have to wait for bioware to make a patch to roll
out on Steam or for AMD to put out new drivers? Now that I'm
hurting for money I kinda wished I never bought the game if I was
never going to be able to play it.[/quote]
[quote]Gorath Alpha
Joined: 2009-10-13
Created about 1 year ago, *Modified about 1 year ago*
Software simply never is the cause of overheating. Poor cooling is
the cause. It may be the card itself, having a dying fan, or all
clogged with dust, or the enclosure's venting may be clogged, so
that air flow is restricted. All software is able to do is "work"
the hardware at a high level. It's always up to the graphics card's
designer(s) to provide adequate cooling, and to the card's user to
provide adequate cleaning and access to sufficient air flow..
Gorath
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[quote]Jab0r
Joined: 2009-10-14
Created about 1 year ago
I would second opening up your case and cleaning all the dust out.[/quote]
[quote]SHartin70
Created about 1 year ago
The fan is dead on your video card. Time for a new one.[/quote]
[quote]Jab0r
More than likely it's just clogged with dust. A can of compressed
air is a whole lot cheaper than a new fan and heatsink. [/quote]
[quote]Gorath Alpha
Created about 1 year ago
And it's LOADS easier to deal with!
G [/quote]
[quote]Lobsang1979 <
Joined: 2009-11-15
Created about 1 year ago
+1 for dusty heatsinks. [/quote]
[quote]Matthew Young CT
Joined: 2009-10-19
Created about 1 year ago
Would you drive your car without oil? Your poor poor card,
you're murdering it
Can't believe how few people maintain their PC (edit to
include the word "correctly"). [/quote]
[quote]Jab0r
Created about 1 year ago
I feel I have to share my story of graphics card torture ...
HD4850, fairly clogged with dust. Running 75 degrees idle.
Just firing up NWN2 or Mass Effect, the temperature rose
rapidly into the hundreds, culminating in thermal shutdown
at 120.
I actually finished Mass Effect with it like that, through
judicious use of going to the menu whenever it got to about
115, to give the card a chance to cool down. [/quote]
[quote]twistedkatana
Created about 1 year ago
Crysis doesn't seem to have the same effect and I have it
running on high at 1680x1050. far cry 2, fallout 3, left 4
dead, any of my games don't do this to my video card. It is
just dragon age. [/quote]
[quote]Gorath Alpha
Created about 1 year ago, *Modified 4 months ago*
(Due to the strange choices that were made designing the Social
Forums' software, a thread that is getting close to two years old
isn't showing up as being three or four months older than the
actual date of my comment here, when I added it, over a year ago,
now. Both the OP's first and last messages are simply "a year",
not 20 months. And I wrote my own added comment -- below --
some 16 months or so ago, I think -- it is now June 8th, 2011, as
I add this paragraph using the Edit capability.)
It was a waste of time for the OP to have answered with a comparison
of games. There is no relevance there; none of those share the same
engine, and we now must guess that he did solve the problem, or he
destroyed the video card from giving it poor cleaning. However, I'd
wanted a thread with the word "overheating" in the title, like the
original that this comment was added onto.
A couple of years ago, I copied an article on PC cooling from the
NWN2 forums on Bioware's old ("Legacy") forum site, and with
apologies to the now-forgotten author, I'll post it here (was it from
Kiwi?) I don't consider the question that any game ever caused
physical harm to any hardware to be worth arguing about. It's been
refuted all too many times and places already. What can happen
is some pet in the household is shedding more than usual, or is a
new and different breed, that sheds more hair and dander, or some
other environmental / hardware sourced vector, period.
Maybe the PC has accidentally been moved, so it is no longer able
to ventilate properly. Perhaps some fan(s) started wearing out, but
quietly, without loud squealing bearings. There are a variety of
environmental changes that can be disruptive. I will just proceed
with the discussion of better cooling.
Keeping Cool
Although this subject is covered widely all around the internet's
technical web sites, I didn't start this essay with any LINKS
immediately available to suggest for references. I've added a
few, after the fact.
Problem: your CPU or GPU runs too hot, and the system either
slows itself down radically, or shuts off for self-protection. What
to do?
The game playing community uses some PC components that
will run fairly hot, in its search for better game-playing performance.
These include Raptor high rpm Hard Drives, Overclocked dual cored
and quad-cored CPUs, and really super-hot-running 3D GPUs.
If a new gamer or new system re-builder is involved in a game PC
project, his/ her experience with controlling overheating may be
inadequate. There are excellent aftermarket GPU coolers readily
available from Arctic Cooling to replace the stock heat sink/ fan
combos, and some very efficient CPU coolers for those old dinosaur
Intel Prescott processors that run like miniature space heaters, but
you do need to know that those aftermarket parts do exist. It should
be noted that with the 2011 release of AMD's combo CPU / GPU,
two high-heat signature items are about to join, with the result a
potential competitor for the old P4's high-heat crown.
Current gaming cases feature twinned 120 mm fans to move a large
air volume at a lower rpm, making less noise than smaller, faster
spinning fans. The intake is in the lower front, close to the Hard
Drive bays, and the exhaust is upper rear, close to the CPU (at
least, on an ATX style motherboard). But even those won't work if
dust buildup isn't controlled, if the assorted cables aren't neatly
tucked away to allow free air flow, and if the case isn't allowed to sit
where ordinary room air circulation can bring it cool fresh air, and
allow the hot air it wants to get rid of, to move on out of the space
behind the box.
Stuffing a game PC into a narrow cabinet intended for a cool-
running business PC from the last century is a quick way to kill
the computer. Crowding the back of the case too close to a wall is
equally bad.
Many branded PCs' cases have only a very small "lip" intake
opening in front, at the very bottom of the bezel (front plastic cover),
which is very easily blocked if the PC sits on the floor on carpeting,
even low pile varieties, so it's necessary to raise it out of contact with
the carpet, if only through cutting a piece of cardboard with a slightly
larger size than the footprint of the machine.
Various utilities will report temperatures and allow the gamer to
keep track of his efforts to control what is happening. These include
AIDA32, ATI Tools, ATI Tray Tools, Riva Tuner, SiSoft Sandra, and
Speedfan.
For any reader wanting additional cooling information, I have now done
my own Google in the subject area, and some quick scans of available
material. This article appears similar in scope to mine, although
somewhat more detailed:
http://www.compukiss.../article766.htm
Here's another:
http://www.smartcomp...55r04/55r04.asp
http://www.pcnineone...o/cooling1.html
http://pcworld.about...p192id52328.htm
I hope all of the links are still good!
Gorath
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[quote]Gorath Alpha
Created about 1 year ago
IMO, cleanliness comes first. It is literally astounding how fast
the lint and dust can clog things up in various situations. PCs on
the floor are the worst, although with even one furred house pet,
including "non-shedding" breeds, its dander can contribute enough
detritus to clog a system high above the floor in a short period.
[/quote]
[quote]joey_mork84
Joined: 2009-12-20
Created about 1 year ago
I keep my pc on my desk for that very reason. We have carpeted
floors and it wouldn't take long for it to clog it all up. I still
do regular cleanings about once a week with a can of compressed
air and a rag. I had my old pc on the floor and found out first hand
how bad of an idea that can be. Even my weekly cleaning wasn't
enough to help that. [/quote]
[quote]Gorath Alpha
Created about 1 year ago
The thing I do that probably contributes the most to collecting
dust is that I leave a system running 24 / 7 most times, and
even though it's off the floor, and in fact a good distance back
from the edge of its table, the filters fill up rapidly (CM Elite
case, with a perforated bezel, behind which I spread a "Swiffer"
type of paper fiber product, which works very well as a filter).
P.S. If you don't use "Swiffer-type" fabric now, but do use any
brand of softener sheets in the clothes drier, those make very
good PC filters as well.
Gorath
- [/quote]
I did copy the original second page, however, I'm not sure that it is required.
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