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[Doofe2012]

I hope Bioware doesn't use that as an excuse to slack on any aspect of the game, and that they realize just how high the expectations for ME3 really are. It may not be a shared consensus, but I'm willing to bet a significant portion, maybe even a majority of Mass Effect fans expect ME3 to be the best game of this generation, and definitely one of the best games of all time.

Let's recap. Mass Effect 1 is nearly unparalleled when it comes to story, immersion, and background universe. ME2 improved greatly on the shortcomings of ME1, making it a very polished shooter, including epic presentation throughout the game rather than just at the beginning and end, doing a fantastic job with characterization, increasing the humor (just how many memes spawned from ME2 again?), among other things.

Mass Effect 1 was hailed as a gem representing a high-water mark for video games as a storytelling method. Mass Effect 2 was called the greatest game of the modern era by IGN. Bioware, realize what you have on your hands. Mass Effect 3, in this gamer's opinion, has a chance to be the greatest game ever up to this point in time. It definitely has the potential to make Mass Effect one of the greatest series of all time.

What will make this happen is if you include the best traits of both games according to the loyal fans who have been with Mass Effect from the start. I'm not talking about the hardcore RPG fans, but I'm definitely not talking about the shooter fans who are only looking for cool explosions and beastly guns. Stick to the company's roots, remove the impractical and include the modern action gameplay, but NOT at the expense of good storytelling, deep characterization, and real decision-making.

This is my imploration for Bioware. Make this game as if it were the last one you all ever made, and make some history. Let's make Commander Shepard a household name. Let's sway the minds of people everywhere to not be afraid of aliens. Let's get more kids and teens interested in the development of space exploration and travel. Let's show people just why we cannot continue being divided and conflicted as nation-states. The potential is there. Time for something truly epic.

[Weskerr]

No pressure, BioWare!

[Zakatak757]

ME2 was probably the 2nd best game I have ever played.

It's only fair if I didn't place my expectations higher. BW won't make everyone happy, might as well accept that now.

[Kusy]

Doofe2012 wrote...
[...] making it a very polished shooter [...]

Nonsense.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

I think the 3-4 month delay from Holidays 2011 into Mar 2012 suggests that BW isn't slacking off with ME3... Not majorly, anyway

[Kusy]

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...
I think the 3-4 month delay from Holidays 2011 into Mar 2012 suggests that BW isn't slacking off with ME3... Not majorly, anyway

Assuming that it has anything to do with development and is not a part of an incredibly obvious business plan from EA, to maximize profit from both The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3 that became even more obvious since they announced the official release date for TOR to be 20.12.2011... holiday.

Note, I'm not saying that business plans are a bad thing. If I even decide to buy ME3 I'll at least have some time to get the money to do so after I buy TOR.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:17 .

[ladyvader]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...
I think the 3-4 month delay from Holidays 2011 into Mar 2012 suggests that BW isn't slacking off with ME3... Not majorly, anyway

Assuming that it has anything to do with development and is not a part of an incredibly obvious business plan from EA, to maximize profit from both The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3 that became even more obvious since they announced the official release date for TOR to be 20.12.2011... holiday.

Note, I'm not saying that business plans are a bad thing. If I even decide to buy ME3 I'll at least have some time to get the money to do so after I buy TOR.

You have to take into account TOR the revenues earned from it also goes to Lucas Arts not just BioWare and EA.

They finally have a relase date for a game I've known about for over four years.  Bout time.  Still not getting it though. I don't do the MMO thing. 

I think they moved it back to make the best game they can make.  Not to max the profits.  They'll do that will DLC.

[Kusy]

Will you feel hurt when I call you naive?

Sure, maybee they will spend few additionall months on polishing stuff. But even thinking that the setback has nothing to do with TOR's release is exactly that, being naive.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:24 .

[Nashiktal]

I'm still unsure if it's a first day purchase, or a bargain bin item.

[V-rex]

You're right about how I'll buy Mass Effect 3 no matter what, I might complain about the vague tweets or the fact that potentially there will be no permenant squadmates or that they've made Ashley hyper sexualized for the sake of mainstream appeal, but I still know that despite my complaining about all these things, I would still buy it.
I would buy it and force a smile on my face through it all, regardless of how much stuff might be there to ****** me off because I've gotten this far (six years by my count) and I want to beat the Reapers, romance Ashley again and fly off into the sunset knowing that I've had some closure.

That said, I agree that just because I will buy it no matter what, doesn't mean Bioware should have the excuse to slack off and just make Gears of War set in space while reducing all the most beloved characters into shallow markettable stereotypes. I agree that Mass Effect 3 should be one of the greatest things ever made, deep and rich and full of emotional investment.
Mass Effect 1 managed to do that in a great way, the fact that I've managed to be emotionally invested in the story and my 'relationship' with Ashley both of which stretch back all the way from the year 2007 to now should be some indication of how well done Mass Effect 1 was and while Mass Effect 2 had some great moments, I think they kind of dropped the ball in a few ways (weaker story, over reliance on sexualized female characters etc) but still at its core the game I loved was still in there, even if I often had to look hard to find it.

Today while Bioware do some things that ****** me off I try to be hopeful, hopeful that Mass Effect 3 will be just as emotionall engaging and deep as the original. Hopeful that all the characters will return properly and that none of them will be pushed aside or reduced to simplified stereotypical versions of themselves. Basically I want Mass Effect 3 to be great and I want the epic conclusion of the franchise to end with me breathlessly listing all the things that were great about it and having that same warm energetic and happy feeling I got from beating the last two games, rather then breathlessly and angrily listing all the things that pissed me off about it.

In essence, I just want the game to be good.

[firefireblow]

yea the extended date does mean (hopefully) it will be good as possible.

or EA is just a bunch of money hoes.

also March 6th is when all our awnsers shall be answered.

[javierabegazo]

Nashiktal wrote...

I'm still unsure if it's a first day purchase, or a bargain bin item.

Pah, nothing you could tell me would convince me of that. You spend at least 10 hours on this website every WEEK. And when the video game hits the stores, and everyone's talking about playing it, I doubt you'll just sit on your hands for a few weeks until the price goes down 10 dollars.



If you've invested time in ME1, and in ME2, and used the Save import to bring along your character, you owe it to yourself and the hundreds (or thousands) of hours of your life that you've spent living in this virtual universe.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Remember one thing... its an RPG... you know all the things we argue about on the forums? Chances are people wont like some aspects of the story because those aspect do no line up with our expectations on what out previous decisions do to the ME3 story line.

Example:
If keeping the CB is "the right" choice for ME3 I might be so pissed off that I honestly will turn the game off and wont play it. However other people will be extatic at this outcome... I am talking about the Cerberus cheerleaders that frequent these forums and apparently do not see that Cerberus are nothing more than Space N@azis.

However there in lies the issue.... MY OPINION OF WHAT SHOULD BE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE WHAT BIOWARE DECIDES.... all in all I think a lot of people will be dissapointed with at least 10 - 15% of the story in ME3 based on previous decisions in ME1 and ME2.

I do however think that the overall scope of ME3 will be awesome once we know how the story ends for our canon Shepards. There are those key decisions though that each person experieced and reacted to differently.

Example:

For me Cerberus = Space N@azis

For the average cheerleader Cerberus = Awesome Organization

Hell even the Geth have different perspective.

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:38 .

[TheMakoMaster]

maybe im just a sucker, but i'm optimistic about not getting dragon effect 3. also, i generally enjoyed ME2 more than ME1

Modifié par TheMakoMaster, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:36 .

[Omega4RelayResident]

javierabegazo wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

I'm still unsure if it's a first day purchase, or a bargain bin item.

Pah, nothing you could tell me would convince me of that. You spend at least 10 hours on this website every WEEK. And when the video game hits the stores, and everyone's talking about playing it, I doubt you'll just sit on your hands for a few weeks until the price goes down 10 dollars.



If you've invested time in ME1, and in ME2, and used the Save import to bring along your character, you owe it to yourself and the hundreds (or thousands) of hours of your life that you've spent living in this virtual universe.

Just saying you dont have to sell it to us.... you got us.... hook, line, and sink her. You guys could save a crap ton of money if you just said.... "ME3 is comming out 3 - 6 - 12, but in order to save money we wont be making advertisements or trailers." We would still buy it.

[Kusy]

firefireblow wrote...
or EA is just a bunch of money hoes.

What's wrong with not wanting to get less money when you can get and deserve more?
You don't release two games from one developer in the same window, both games are BioWare product... releasing both games at the same time would mean a lot of BioWare fans would have to choose from those two and I'm quite sure Mass Effect wouldn't be the winning party here with The Old Republic being a priority for every single Star Wars Nerd and KOTOR fan out there, not to mention pure MMO hardcores.

Not being a retard is hardly a reason to be called a prostitute, hmm?

[Omega4RelayResident]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

firefireblow wrote...
or EA is just a bunch of money hoes.

What's wrong with not wanting to get less money when you can get and deserve more?
You don't release two games from one developer in the same window, both games are BioWare product... releasing both games at the same time would mean a lot of BioWare fans would have to choose from those two and I'm quite sure Mass Effect wouldn't be the winning party here with The Old Republic being a priority for every single Star Wars Nerd and KOTOR fan out there, not to mention pure MMO hardcores.

Not being a retard is hardly a reason to be called a prostitute, hmm?

I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with making money... as long as BioWare is hiring more people and putting the money to good use. I am sick and tired of CEO's that think they can take the money with them and they just end up hoarding it like crazy... (Adelphia, Enron, Leeman Brothers etc.)

[JeffZero]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

I'm still unsure if it's a first day purchase, or a bargain bin item.

Pah, nothing you could tell me would convince me of that. You spend at least 10 hours on this website every WEEK. And when the video game hits the stores, and everyone's talking about playing it, I doubt you'll just sit on your hands for a few weeks until the price goes down 10 dollars.



If you've invested time in ME1, and in ME2, and used the Save import to bring along your character, you owe it to yourself and the hundreds (or thousands) of hours of your life that you've spent living in this virtual universe.

Just saying you dont have to sell it to us.... you got us.... hook, line, and sink her. You guys could save a crap ton of money if you just said.... "ME3 is comming out 3 - 6 - 12, but in order to save money we wont be making advertisements or trailers." We would still buy it.

That's not the point of marketing the follow-up to a pre-existing product at all. Attracting new consumers is the first goal of every sensible business. Reminding guaranteed return consumers of a product's street date is a secondary concern.

[Volus Warlord]

Well, I took this poll and it appears over 90% of voters will buy ME3 no questions asked.

I'm not one of them, but I think ME3 will be good.

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:45 .

[Kusy]

Mass Effect 3 and The Old Republic's earnings won't go to BioWare's pocket. BioWare is a division of EA games (as stands on their website). BioWare makes a game, people in BioWare are paid like in every other corporation, EA sells the game and the whole corporation organism profits from those sales. BioWare games selling well might or might not affect funding and wages of that particular division of the mother monster.

It's not that I know exactly how BioWare works, I just seen and a couple of corporations and worked in one, I'm basing this on my own experience. BioWare IS Electronic Arts. Electronic Arts IS BioWare.

[Kusy]

Volus Warlord wrote...
Well, I took this poll and it appears over 90% of voters will buy ME3 no questions asked.
I'm not one of them, but I think ME3 will be good.

Yesss... and this poll is representative in any way... because it's not like there are more than 441 people living in my flat... let alone my street or my city.

Why won't you people post faster, it's your fault I do doubleposts all the time!

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:51 .

[Nashiktal]

@Javier it's not that I don't want the game, it's whether or not I can afford to go full price. I love me some mass effect but I have to justify the cost to my significant other.

I probably should have explained that, but this forum isn't built to accommodate phones.

[Volus Warlord]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
Well, I took this poll and it appears over 90% of voters will buy ME3 no questions asked.
I'm not one of them, but I think ME3 will be good.

Yesss... and this poll is representative in any way... because it's not like there are more than 441 people living in my flat... let alone my street or my city.

Why won't you people post faster, it's your fault I do doubleposts all the time!

Hey, call it whatever you want to call it. Food for thought.

[Mikeyzs94]

well imma get the collectors edition no questions asked
and screw the star wars nerd and stuff
mass effect fans unite!!

Modifié par Mikeyzs94, 25 septembre 2011 - 03:04 .