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[ExarKun00720]

Doublehex wrote...

I had built my gaming computer right at the beginning of October. i7 920 CPU, HD 4870 videocard, and 6 GB of RAM.

I think I'll be *just* fine.

No you didn't go with 8 gigs of ram like me, it's gonna be lagging, 6 gigs, that's patheticly small amount, I think I need to go to 16 anyway.

[xKerberos]

Deran2 wrote...
They'll go down eventually, but it might be a little while. They're still pretty new. DDR3 is dropping very quickly.  Intel only drops prices on their CPUs once per quarter and they don't always drop them a lot or even drop a lot of prices. We might see a slight price decrease early next year. The i9 might cause some of the LGA 1366 CPUs to drop a bit, but I doubt it.

I built my i5 system right when they came out and prices have come down a little bit since then, so all I can say is keep watching and decide how much you're willing to spend.

I noticed DDR3 is dropping fast too. I was hoping the mobo would drop in price. Otherwise I might not be able to replace my slightly faulty card

[xKerberos]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

No you didn't go with 8 gigs of ram like me, it's gonna be lagging, 6 gigs, that's patheticly small amount, I think I need to go to 16 anyway.

What uses more than 3gb ram anyway... on my RC 7100 I noticed only 60% used out of my 3.2gb (4gb 32bit) when using any application. Then again... I don't do anything more than general pc use and heavy gaming.

[Deltaboy37]

Kamenwati wrote...

BlacknBlue485 wrote...

I have the 9600 GT w/ 1024mb and is 1 yr old and running pretty strong with no lag, the 9500 can't be that much weaken can it?

Yes the 9500 is a much weaker card, Number order is not everything for nvidia cards, I would take an 8800 over a 9500

exactly, if your gonna go by numbers go by the second one.

9800 is better than the 8800

but the 8800 is better than the 9600

[GhoXen]

xKerberos wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

No you didn't go with 8 gigs of ram like me, it's gonna be lagging, 6 gigs, that's patheticly small amount, I think I need to go to 16 anyway.

What uses more than 3gb ram anyway... on my RC 7100 I noticed only 60% used out of my 3.2gb (4gb 32bit) when using any application. Then again... I don't do anything more than general pc use and heavy gaming.

That's because on a 32-bit system only 3gb of ram+graphics ram will be used, even if your rig is screaming for more memory the system won't use it. It's a different story on a 64-bit system.

[ExarKun00720]

GhoXen wrote...

xKerberos wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

No you didn't go with 8 gigs of ram like me, it's gonna be lagging, 6 gigs, that's patheticly small amount, I think I need to go to 16 anyway.

What uses more than 3gb ram anyway... on my RC 7100 I noticed only 60% used out of my 3.2gb (4gb 32bit) when using any application. Then again... I don't do anything more than general pc use and heavy gaming.

That's because on a 32-bit system only 3gb of ram+graphics ram will be used, even if your rig is screaming for more memory the system won't use it. It's a different story on a 64-bit system.

Exactly, something most people don't know about 32bit OS's.  Why at times I am suprised Windows keeps making 32 bit OS's, eventually everything will need to go to 64bit, might as well force it on them, doubt they would notice... well who am I kidding it's M$ they would screw it up somehow.

Modifié par ExarKun00720, 01 novembre 2009 - 04:06 .

[elgato2067]

I didn't upgrade specifically for this game, but in the past week, I upgraded to Windows 7 and got 2 Velociraptors drive in RAID 0 configuration. I have a Radeon HD 5870 on order thats supposed to arrive on Monday. I'm really looking forward to playing this game now that's for sure.

[Teemu733]

I did upgrade recently, but it was just a lucky coincidence that it happened just before DA:O's release. I now have



i7 950 at 3GHz

MSI Geforce GTX275 Twin Frozr OC 896 MB

6 GB DDR3 RAM (OCZ Gold 1866 MHz)

Win 7 64 bit

Asus P6T motherboard

[Sheylan]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

GhoXen wrote...

xKerberos wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

No you didn't go with 8 gigs of ram like me, it's gonna be lagging, 6 gigs, that's patheticly small amount, I think I need to go to 16 anyway.

What uses more than 3gb ram anyway... on my RC 7100 I noticed only 60% used out of my 3.2gb (4gb 32bit) when using any application. Then again... I don't do anything more than general pc use and heavy gaming.

That's because on a 32-bit system only 3gb of ram+graphics ram will be used, even if your rig is screaming for more memory the system won't use it. It's a different story on a 64-bit system.

Exactly, something most people don't know about 32bit OS's.  Why at times I am suprised Windows keeps making 32 bit OS's, eventually everything will need to go to 64bit, might as well force it on them, doubt they would notice... well who am I kidding it's M$ they would screw it up somehow.

I'm pretty sure the only thing they are using 32-bit windows 7 for is net books, which rarely have more than 1gig of ram (if that).

Beyond that, I don't think any new computers are coming with any 32 bit OS.

[xKerberos]

They are actually



Maybe I am confused. I have 4gb ram but Windows only uses 3.2gb. Fine, it is 32-bit. Hopefully I can grab 64-bit Win 7 retail.



But none of my programs even maxes out that. On 64-bit they will? Do explain.

[ExarKun00720]

xKerberos wrote...

They are actually

Maybe I am confused. I have 4gb ram but Windows only uses 3.2gb. Fine, it is 32-bit. Hopefully I can grab 64-bit Win 7 retail.

But none of my programs even maxes out that. On 64-bit they will? Do explain.

Well no game has maxed out my 8, the games will use as much as they can though, so the more you have the more reserve you have in case. 

Right now though I am not worried, I say take an average of what the recommended ram is from some of the newest game, and double it and you should be fine with that number for awhile, which is at this point 4 gigs.

Also how are you testing to know if you are maxing out that 3.2 gb?  Siome programs can be very subjective.

As for 32-bit Windows 7, pre builds may not be sold with it much. but you can still buy it if you wish.

Modifié par ExarKun00720, 01 novembre 2009 - 04:24 .

[xKerberos]

I have a G15 with the performance monitor applet or some other thingy that came with it. I know my OS is only using 3.2gb by looking at the Windows performance manager.



I always play games and look at the G15 screen to see my cpu usage. Bottlenecking problem. I have always noticed the ram never maxing out.



Which begs the question : If I only get 2gb of DDR3 1333 ram (XMS3), will that suffice? Hmm.

[GhoXen]

xKerberos wrote...

They are actually

Maybe I am confused. I have 4gb ram but Windows only uses 3.2gb. Fine, it is 32-bit. Hopefully I can grab 64-bit Win 7 retail.

But none of my programs even maxes out that. On 64-bit they will? Do explain.

You computer probably isn't very familiar with pain and computer hell. What's the most taxing program you can think of which you have run? Some game's highest quality textures will require at least 4gb memory in order to ensure smooth framerate, for example: Crysis highest quality texture and Half Life 2 Cinematic Mod HD textures.

[ExarKun00720]

xKerberos wrote...

I have a G15 with the performance monitor applet or some other thingy that came with it. I know my OS is only using 3.2gb by looking at the Windows performance manager.

I always play games and look at the G15 screen to see my cpu usage. Bottlenecking problem. I have always noticed the ram never maxing out.

Which begs the question : If I only get 2gb of DDR3 1333 ram (XMS3), will that suffice? Hmm.

For DA:O it should be fine, for most games it should be fine, could you see some improvment if you ran 4?  Yeah.

[xKerberos]

Crysis. Only uses around 70% at most. I run it at High everything though. My processor is showing it's age.
I'm confused here. Someone make me understand .

Now I'm worried about getting the Twin set of DDR3.

Modifié par xKerberos, 01 novembre 2009 - 04:34 .

[xKerberos]

ExarKun00720 wrote...
For DA:O it should be fine, for most games it should be fine, could you see some improvment if you ran 4?  Yeah.

The thing I'm confused about is if it needed more ram, why doesn't it max out the ram?

Fallout 3 uses 50% at most. Then again it also runs like a dream so... nevermind I'll use Crysis.

Crysis uses 70%. If I had a 64-bit Win 7 and 6gb ram, would it still use 70%?

[ExarKun00720]

xKerberos wrote...

Crysis. Only uses around 70% at most. I run it at High everything though. My processor is showing it's age.
I'm confused here. Someone make me understand .

Now I'm worried about getting the Twin set of DDR3.

DDR3 is faster, and it's a good RAM your going with, I'm just saying 2 GB is cutting even for a lot of games with there recommended specs, some games have even started saying 2.5 GB.

If I were you, I would go with 4 GB, right now it's mostly just future proofing, if only for a couple years.

If that doesn't help you at all, I'll just wait for some others to try.

[GhoXen]

xKerberos wrote...

Crysis. Only uses around 70% at most. I run it at High everything though. My processor is showing it's age.
I'm confused here. Someone make me understand .

Now I'm worried about getting the Twin set of DDR3.

Well, of course Crysis would only use about 70% of your 4gb, because the other 1gb cannot be used due to 32-bit system limitation. How was your framerate during the said playthrough? Basically if the game could only use 3gb of your memory and run at say.. 40fps, it will obviously perform better with an extra gb of memory. It's very likely that it's not because Crysis didn't need to use the extra memory "locked away" by 32-bit system, it's because Crysis -can't- use it even if it wants to.

It's simple. Which would you prefer: having 3GB memory+graphical memory limitation or the amount of memory you have paid for. You should get a 64-bit system when possible.

The thing I'm confused about is if it needed more ram, why doesn't it max out the ram?

Let's have an example here. The reason a 32-bit system doesn't max out the ram even if more ram is needed is because it cannot. It simply cannot do it no matter what.

Let's say, you have 16GB memory and two HD5870 with 1GB graphical memory each, and you are crazy and decided to run 4 Crysis at the same time on 4 different monitors on max. Obviously, this task will heavily demand memory, let's just assume that a total of 12GB memory is required for optimal gameplay.

For some reason, you decide to run it in Win XP/Vista/7 32-bit version instead of 64-bit version. Even though your 4 Crysises are lagging at maybe 1 or 2 fps(though more likely they won't run at all, but let's just assume), your system will use only 3GB memory. In layman's term: 32-bit system is dumb, and can't count memory above 3gb.

Modifié par GhoXen, 01 novembre 2009 - 04:47 .

[xKerberos]

Just confused on ram usage vs os. I don't really expect the ram usage to go up if I installed 64-bit now.



Time will tell. Doesn't Win7 come with both 32 and 64 dvds?



I like Corsair ram. But the XMS3 4gb set is a little pricey over here still. By the time I buy it should go down.

[MingWolf]

Not upgrading if I don't have to.   Unless of course I win the lottery

[ExarKun00720]

xKerberos wrote...

Just confused on ram usage vs os. I don't really expect the ram usage to go up if I installed 64-bit now.

Time will tell. Doesn't Win7 come with both 32 and 64 dvds?

I like Corsair ram. But the XMS3 4gb set is a little pricey over here still. By the time I buy it should go down.

It's been awhile since I have not had a 64 bit PC, hard to remember how my computer ran going from Vista 32 to Vista 64, but I can tell you going from Vista 64 to Win7 64 was a huge diffrence in how fast the system operated, and I didn't change anything but the OS.

[xKerberos]

GhoXen wrote...
Well, of course Crysis would only use about 70% of your 4gb, because the other 1gb cannot be used due to 32-bit system limitation. How was your framerate during the said playthrough? Basically if the game could only use 3gb of your memory and run at say.. 40fps, it will obviously perform better with an extra gb of memory. It's very likely that it's not because Crysis didn't need to use the extra memory "locked away" by 32-bit system, it's because Crysis -can't- use it even if it wants to.

It's simple. Which would you prefer: having 3GB memory+graphical memory limitation or the amount of memory you have paid for. You should get a 64-bit system when possible.

I have a slow processor though. It is always bottlenecking my 9800gt.

Does the game need the extra 1gb? There seems to be another 1.4gb out of 3.2gb free. Why doesn't it use it?

I was wrong on 70%. It is only 57%. I swore there was something that used 70% though.

[xKerberos]

ExarKun00720 wrote...
It's been awhile since I have not had a 64 bit PC, hard to remember how my computer ran going from Vista 32 to Vista 64, but I can tell you going from Vista 64 to Win7 64 was a huge diffrence in how fast the system operated, and I didn't change anything but the OS.

Well Vista to 7 is a major improvement here too. It makes me wonder how I survived with Vista

[ExarKun00720]

If it's 32 bit OS it will never use that extra RAM, to be honest you could take out the extra gig and it never run any slower.