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[Gravity Bun]

Actually I don't get what all the fuss was about, it didn't bother me.
I do use a logitech trackman mouse though, so that helped :-P

[MrDizazta]

I didn't mind it much because of the update. However I would prefer more missions though.

[Il Divo]

I only did it enough to collect the necessary upgrades. It was bothersome, but not enough to make the game unplayable.

[Juha81FIN]

Planet scanning isn't really issue on PC as you can just adjust mouse speed faster (at least with lazer mouses), and in the end not really in xbox either if you know where to look for minerals.

[N0-Future]

I really didn't mind the scanning, I especially liked reading about the planets themselves.

[Ieldra]

I liked planet exploration as it was done in ME1. Though the driving and collecting gets tedious after a while, it's mostly optional and I simply love the planet landscapes in ME1, and missed them greatly in ME2. When I replay ME1, I still collect everything there is to collect on every planet.

Planet scanninng, however, I did for exactly one game. After that, I always used a savegame editor to cheat enough resources into the game. I'll do the same in ME3 should planet scanning be that important a feature again.

[King Minos]

No uncle Jesse! I don't want to mine Uranus!!

[Xeranx]

I don't know what the optimization for planet scanning were. Trying to do my second run I said "to hell with it". Gibbed's save editor saved me hours of boredom. I imagine a scenario where someone comes running to Shepard and tells him/her that TIM wants to talk to them and the response is: "Shh. Not while I'm mining" a la Steve Urkel's patented response when he's in the middle of something.

[Labrev]

 Old topic is old.

[InTheZone]

Despite the topic being old, it is relevant as Bioware has some plans not to eliminate the system entirely. For those on the consoles, such as myself, scanning is a pain in the ass. It cuts into gameplay and exploration, because "oh no, wait, I need 4,000 Iridium before I go off and fight the big reaper" -- seriously?

[AtreiyaN7]

Oh joy, the ten millionth thread on planet scanning. Personally, I'd rather scan planets than bounce around in the Mako due to the incredibly annoying wall climbing one had to engage in. They're supposedly modifying the scanning, so hopefully the alternative is somewhat more palatable for others.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 25 septembre 2011 - 08:53 .

[P38 ace]

i liked them both and would like to see both options back

and the ability to choose between the Mako and the Hammerhead, just to make every one happy

[AdmiralCheez]

And that's why we have Gibbed.

[RamirezWolfen]

Planet scanning was interesting at first, but got old after a few playthroughs.

[jeweledleah]

<--liked planet scanning - it was nice and relaxing. haven't tried it before the update though, so no idea how slow it used to be. hated mako, mostly because it had super clumsy controls on pc, aiming with it sucked, planet design was ridiculous and collecting minerals inME1 was completely pointless unless you were a completionist. even without minerals, you basically ended up swimming it too much credits and omnigel with barely anything to use it for.

P.S.  nowadays I just use gibbed for resources.  playing ME1, you really cannot avoid the Mako though :/  then again, in ME2 - you canno longer cheat your way through every lock via omnigel O_O

Modifié par jeweledleah, 25 septembre 2011 - 08:48 .

[Michel1986]

Kasai666 wrote...

I loved the Mako and planet scanning.

I can imagine the mako, but i cannot imagine you loved the planet scanning crap . Planet scanning is **** and the mako is great, to bad the replaced it with a crappy vehicle called ''the hammerhead''

[Xeranx]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Oh joy, the ten millionth thread on planet scanning. Personally, I'd rather scan planets than bounce around in the Mako due to the incredibly annoying wall climbing one had to engage in. They're supposedly modifying it, so hopefully the alternative is somewhat more palatable for others.

Why people try to compare the two when reasons for doing either don't match up is beyond me.

Planet scanning, unless you didn't care about your squad, was a requirement.  Using the mako to gather resources (and do any side mission or side mission involving the mako) wasn't a requirement in any shape or form.

Modifié par Xeranx, 25 septembre 2011 - 08:56 .

[footballzach50]

I didnt mind planet scanning b ut it would be nice to be able to buy upgrades with credits aswell as resources, to make it abit more realistic. or even just buy resources from shops on different planets

[jeweledleah]

Xeranx wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Oh joy, the ten millionth thread on planet scanning. Personally, I'd rather scan planets than bounce around in the Mako due to the incredibly annoying wall climbing one had to engage in. They're supposedly modifying it, so hopefully the alternative is somewhat more palatable for others.

Why people try to compare the two when reasons for doing either don't match up is beyond me.

Planet scanning, unless you didn't care about your squad, was a requirement.  Using the mako to gather resources (and on any side mission) wasn't a requirement in any shape or form.

unless you wanted to hoof it across Noveria and freeze to death before you got anywhere nearhot labs?  you had to use the Mako. if you wanted to do some of the sidequests that happened to be located on hazardous planets - you HAD to use the Mako.  you had to use the Mako during Ilos run, especialy that last part where you only had 40 seconds to get to the conduit.

you might not have had to gather minerals in ME1, but MAKO was NOT optional.  even if you avoided it as much as possible by hoofing it and spending ridiculously more time on missions - it was not avoidable 100% of the time.  at least you can avoid planet scanning with gibbed.

[Yvell]

The only thing that relieved me, and made me feel better about the planet scanning...
EDI: Probing Uranus. *Sigh*
*Fifty probes later*
EDI: Really, Commander?
This provided a cheap bit of entertainment for god-know-how-many-th time I played through ME2

[AtreiyaN7]

Xeranx wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Oh joy, the ten millionth thread on planet scanning. Personally, I'd rather scan planets than bounce around in the Mako due to the incredibly annoying wall climbing one had to engage in. They're supposedly modifying it, so hopefully the alternative is somewhat more palatable for others.

Why people try to compare the two when reasons for doing either don't match up is beyond me.

Planet scanning, unless you didn't care about your squad, was a requirement.  Using the mako to gather resources (and on any side mission) wasn't a requirement in any shape or form.

Why? Because group <x> inevitably complains that they hated planet scanning and that they want us all to revert to the days of tootling around in the Mako to do surveying a la ME1 to gather our resources. Then group <y> feels compelled to point out that not all of us loved tootling around in the Mako to gather resources after playing ME1 multiple times during which we were forced to try climb walls on planets created by sadistic devs. 

I, personally, prefer planet scanning to surveying-hell in the Mako. Since the devs are modifying things, they will likely make planet scanning less annoying (for those annoyed by it) and/or throw some exploration in (one would hope - I like exploration - just don't give me such severe terrain that it turns things into torture instead of fun).

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 25 septembre 2011 - 09:09 .

[littlezack]

While I didn't like planet scanning, I hardly found it such a problem that it made me not want to play the game again. With imported saves, you don't even need to do it much to get all the minerals you need.

[Xeranx]

jeweledleah wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Oh joy, the ten millionth thread on planet scanning. Personally, I'd rather scan planets than bounce around in the Mako due to the incredibly annoying wall climbing one had to engage in. They're supposedly modifying it, so hopefully the alternative is somewhat more palatable for others.

Why people try to compare the two when reasons for doing either don't match up is beyond me.

Planet scanning, unless you didn't care about your squad, was a requirement.  Using the mako to gather resources (and on any side mission) wasn't a requirement in any shape or form.

unless you wanted to hoof it across Noveria and freeze to death before you got anywhere nearhot labs?  you had to use the Mako. if you wanted to do some of the sidequests that happened to be located on hazardous planets - you HAD to use the Mako.  you had to use the Mako during Ilos run, especialy that last part where you only had 40 seconds to get to the conduit.

you might not have had to gather minerals in ME1, but MAKO was NOT optional.  even if you avoided it as much as possible by hoofing it and spending ridiculously more time on missions - it was not avoidable 100% of the time.  at least you can avoid planet scanning with gibbed.

I probably modified my post around the same time you were typing your response. 

In any case, gibbed's save editor is a third party tool.  It circumvents or alters the way the game is supposed to be played outside of the main program.  In ME you don't have to use third party software to avoid getting resources that ultimately didn't make a difference to how you completed ME.  In ME2 you have to actively do something either to the coalesced.ini or use a third party program like gibbed to avoid gathering resources yourself.

Modifié par Xeranx, 25 septembre 2011 - 09:29 .

[Xeranx]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Oh joy, the ten millionth thread on planet scanning. Personally, I'd rather scan planets than bounce around in the Mako due to the incredibly annoying wall climbing one had to engage in. They're supposedly modifying it, so hopefully the alternative is somewhat more palatable for others.

Why people try to compare the two when reasons for doing either don't match up is beyond me.

Planet scanning, unless you didn't care about your squad, was a requirement.  Using the mako to gather resources (and on any side mission) wasn't a requirement in any shape or form.

Why? Because group <x> inevitably complains that they hated planet scanning and that they want us all to revert to the days of tootling around in the Mako to do surveying a la ME1 to gather our resources. Then group <y> feels compelled to point out that not all of us loved tootling around in the Mako to gather resources after playing ME1 multiple times during which we were forced to try climb walls on planets created by sadistic devs. 

I, personally, prefer planet scanning to surveying-hell in the Mako. Since the devs are modifying things, they will likely make planet scanning less annoying (for those annoyed by it) and/or throw some exploration in (one would hope - I like exploration - just don't give me such severe terrain that it turns things into torture instead of fun).

The thing is "tootling around in the mako" was your decision.  It was entirely optional.  Past the first playthrough there was nothing that hinted that the resources were needed.  The only time resources in ME came up was when Bioware said there'd be a bonus in ME2.  Even then it was still entirely optional as you could mine several planets bare in ME2 and get all the upgrades you needed or wanted.  

But, again, the point is using the mako to gather resources was optional.  Making sure no one died enroute to the Collector Station in ME2 required scanning planets for resources.  No matter how many times you ran through the game.  If you wanted no one to die going through the Omega IV relay you had to scan planets.  If you didn't mind some characters dying then you could do as you pleased.

[jeweledleah]

Xeranx - your modification doesn't address the fact that Mako had to be used for main story missions. even if you decided to skip majority of the game by doing main missions only - there are a minimum of 2 occurrences (Noveria and Ilos) where you cannot pass the game without using Mako. no matter how many times you played ME1 - you had to use the Mako at a minimum for Noveria and Ilos.

when you finished ME2 at least once - you are given 50000 of each resource to start (I cannot remember for sure, but I think you get the same headstart if you import a character with rich achievemnt... its been a while). you also can gather some resources from crates on missions. its not enough if you want all the bells and whistles, but it reduces the need for planet scanning to bare minimum. its more then enough to get every single ship upgrade necessary for everyone to survive the suicide mission. you'll even have some left over for a few personal upgrades here and there, without having to scan a single planet.

edited for source

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Research#Normandy_SR-2_Upgrades

Modifié par jeweledleah, 25 septembre 2011 - 09:35 .