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watch this video at 3:57


That's what Samara thinks. It would be nice if I could ask Morinth about that in depth.

So Samara THINKS she fled and she THINKS that Morinth killed someone?

Forget about explaining. D.Kain's desperate defense of Morinth makes it obvious that he is misinformed.

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I'm sure Morinth believes she was running away to freedom and in a way that is correct. But freedom is different than melding with someone after you knew you were a danger and killing them.

Yeah but you have to think about it from Morinth's perspective, she was 40 so thats like a teenager by asari standards, everyone is out to kill you because of something you can't control and all you can think about is if you mate with someone it could give you the strength to protect yourself, no i'm not trying to justify the obvious horrible things shes done, but if the condition is as addictive as samara makes it sound then we shouldn't look at her as a monster but with pitty as she is just a super charged junkie who will do anything to get her fix


Why NOT justify Morinth? It's a problem of the asari society, she is the product. 

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YES damnit. Morinth fled from seclusion and that is perfectly fine, I'm by her side! 

Samara basically said Morinth proved her addiction when she fled. It is likely she melded with someone as a way to escape or to gain power then used it to escape. Morinth knew full well that running away would mean she would have to kill more to gain power.

She is killing for survival! Pleasure came afterwards, blame Samara for that.

That is retarded. Morinth didn't have to escape in the first place period. It was her fault like Samara said. "Morinth is a tragic figure not a sympathetic one." she had a choice and she chose to run and kill.

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jreezy wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...



watch this video at 3:57


That's what Samara thinks. It would be nice if I could ask Morinth about that in depth.

So Samara THINKS she fled and she THINKS that Morinth killed someone?

Forget about explaining. D.Kain's desperate defense of Morinth makes it obvious that he is misinformed.


How can I be missinformed if I played through the same game as you?

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D.Kain wrote...

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...



watch this video at 3:57


That's what Samara thinks. It would be nice if I could ask Morinth about that in depth.

So Samara THINKS she fled and she THINKS that Morinth killed someone?

Forget about explaining. D.Kain's desperate defense of Morinth makes it obvious that he is misinformed.


How can I be missinformed if I played through the same game as you?


Or in denial. Take your pick. 

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YES damnit. Morinth fled from seclusion and that is perfectly fine, I'm by her side! 

Samara basically said Morinth proved her addiction when she fled. It is likely she melded with someone as a way to escape or to gain power then used it to escape. Morinth knew full well that running away would mean she would have to kill more to gain power.

She is killing for survival! Pleasure came afterwards, blame Samara for that.

That is retarded. Morinth didn't have to escape in the first place period. It was her fault like Samara said. "Morinth is a tragic figure not a sympathetic one." she had a choice and she chose to run and kill.


People are not to be put into a jail for the crimes they have not commited period. I would never agree to live in seclusion myself.

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People are not to be put into a jail for the crimes they have not commited period. I would never agree to live in seclusion myself.

Morinth is a person yes but a person who has a capability far above others to cause a lot of distruction. She is likely tempted to meld even before her first. Living in seclusion is safe for people like Morinth and the outside population. It isn't perfect but its the best that they can do. You are supporting mass murder for personal survival.  I'm glad you are open with your beliefs.

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People are not to be put into a jail for the crimes they have not commited period. I would never agree to live in seclusion myself.

It's called quaruantine. Morinth's sisters are not treated as criminals, but patients who requires special care. I'm sure their civil rights were not revoked, and they are allowed all forms of communication (apart from direct personal contact) with the outside world.

I'd actually welcome such a life of seclusion, if sufficient comfort and security are provided for free at the mere price of personal contact.

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The only con is that you can't really have sex lol

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People are not to be put into a jail for the crimes they have not commited period. I would never agree to live in seclusion myself.

Morinth is a person yes but a person who has a capability far above others to cause a lot of distruction. She is likely tempted to meld even before her first. Living in seclusion is safe for people like Morinth and the outside population. It isn't perfect but its the best that they can do. You are supporting mass murder for personal survival.  I'm glad you are open with your beliefs.


''Safety first!'' - This is a fraze that I can't hate enough. Life is to be lived to the full, and safety can kiss my as*. Living to the full does not nescecery mean making other people suffer. In Morinth's example they suffer BECAUSE they didn't let her live to the full. That is completely heartless. Actions first THEN consiquences not the other way around. 

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D.Kain wrote...

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People are not to be put into a jail for the crimes they have not commited period. I would never agree to live in seclusion myself.

Morinth is a person yes but a person who has a capability far above others to cause a lot of distruction. She is likely tempted to meld even before her first. Living in seclusion is safe for people like Morinth and the outside population. It isn't perfect but its the best that they can do. You are supporting mass murder for personal survival.  I'm glad you are open with your beliefs.


''Safety first!'' - This is a fraze that I can't hate enough. Life is to be lived to the full, and safety can kiss my as*. Living to the full does not nescecery mean making other people suffer. In Morinth's example they suffer BECAUSE they didn't let her live to the full. That is completely heartless. Actions first THEN consiquences not the other way around. 


So you support letting Morinth kill whoever when ever she wants? Think you for admitting that.

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

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People are not to be put into a jail for the crimes they have not commited period. I would never agree to live in seclusion myself.

Morinth is a person yes but a person who has a capability far above others to cause a lot of distruction. She is likely tempted to meld even before her first. Living in seclusion is safe for people like Morinth and the outside population. It isn't perfect but its the best that they can do. You are supporting mass murder for personal survival.  I'm glad you are open with your beliefs.


''Safety first!'' - This is a fraze that I can't hate enough. Life is to be lived to the full, and safety can kiss my as*. Living to the full does not nescecery mean making other people suffer. In Morinth's example they suffer BECAUSE they didn't let her live to the full. That is completely heartless. Actions first THEN consiquences not the other way around. 


So you support letting Morinth kill whoever when ever she wants? Think you for admitting that.


Omg. I support Morinth to have a full life. She kills people BECAUSE she not granted full life. Killing people is not a part of that full life. I believe she would be celebate if she was given a full life.

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Omg. I support Morinth to have a full life. She kills people BECAUSE she not granted full life. Killing people is not a part of that full life. I believe she would be celebate if she was given a full life.


She kills for the pleasure and she is addicted to it. Your claim that she needs to do it for survival is unfounded. It maybe part of the reason for it but its a small part since she can just hide out on Omega. The only reason Samara found her there was because she was killing. 

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Omg. I support Morinth to have a full life. She kills people BECAUSE she not granted full life. Killing people is not a part of that full life. I believe she would be celebate if she was given a full life.


She kills for the pleasure and she is addicted to it. Your claim that she needs to do it for survival is unfounded. It maybe part of the reason for it but its a small part since she can just hide out on Omega. The only reason Samara found her there was because she was killing. 


How many more times? I respect your opinion I really do. :)

But I already told you where in my opinion is the problem. Morinth might as well already be addicted but she is addicted because of Samara following her. It starts as survival, then you become a predetor. 

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How many more times? I respect your opinion I really do. :)

But I already told you where in my opinion is the problem. Morinth might as well already be addicted but she is addicted because of Samara following her. It starts as survival, then you become a predetor. 


I already disproved that point. Morinth had the choice to live in seclusion. She knew what she was doing by escaping even Samara said she proved her addiction. 

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 Looks like Morinth has brainwashed someone in the real world.:lol:

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How many more times? I respect your opinion I really do. :)

But I already told you where in my opinion is the problem. Morinth might as well already be addicted but she is addicted because of Samara following her. It starts as survival, then you become a predetor. 


I already disproved that point. Morinth had the choice to live in seclusion. She knew what she was doing by escaping even Samara said she proved her addiction. 


Yes it is an endless cicle. Morinth doesn't want to kill people and doesn't want to live seclusion. If she leaves seclusion she has to resort to killing people. But she has to do so because Samara won't live her alone. If Samara would let her live in peace a lot of stupid things could have not happened.

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 Looks like Morinth has brainwashed someone in the real world.:lol:


Lol. I'm just a pro freedom person. :)

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How many more times? I respect your opinion I really do. :)

But I already told you where in my opinion is the problem. Morinth might as well already be addicted but she is addicted because of Samara following her. It starts as survival, then you become a predetor. 


I already disproved that point. Morinth had the choice to live in seclusion. She knew what she was doing by escaping even Samara said she proved her addiction. 


Yes it is an endless cicle. Morinth doesn't want to kill people and doesn't want to live in seclusion. If she lives seclusion she has to resort to killing people. But she has to do so because Samara won't live her alone. If Samara would let her live in peace a lot of stupid things could have not happened.


Samara has 2 other daughters who wanted to live in seclusion. I don't see Samara going after them.

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How many more times? I respect your opinion I really do. :)

But I already told you where in my opinion is the problem. Morinth might as well already be addicted but she is addicted because of Samara following her. It starts as survival, then you become a predetor. 


I already disproved that point. Morinth had the choice to live in seclusion. She knew what she was doing by escaping even Samara said she proved her addiction. 

Stop this now. This debate just might be pointless since D.Kain refuses to listen.

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How many more times? I respect your opinion I really do. :)

But I already told you where in my opinion is the problem. Morinth might as well already be addicted but she is addicted because of Samara following her. It starts as survival, then you become a predetor. 


I already disproved that point. Morinth had the choice to live in seclusion. She knew what she was doing by escaping even Samara said she proved her addiction. 


Yes it is an endless cicle. Morinth doesn't want to kill people and doesn't want to live in seclusion. If she lives seclusion she has to resort to killing people. But she has to do so because Samara won't live her alone. If Samara would let her live in peace a lot of stupid things could have not happened.


Samara has 2 other daughters who wanted to live in seclusion. I don't see Samara going after them.


Because they obeyed! What is your point here? I tottally lost it. Morinth want's to be free. But her freedom means that she will be haunted. So she has to kill to defend herself. And for Morinth freedom is more important.

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Meh screw it your argument is idiotic and its pointless to argue with you. Enjoy ****** to Morinth endlessly.

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Meh screw it your argument is idiotic and its pointless to argue with you. Enjoy ****** to Morinth endlessly.


Are you 14 years old or something? If you don't respect peoples freedom that's your business.


YOUR argument is: Hey Morinth was given a choice to be a prisoner instead and she is stupid and bad for choosing freedom. 

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well it will never happen in mine. That **** will remain dead forever

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well it will never happen in mine. That **** will remain dead forever

I don't blame you. Letting her live just seems outright evil, something Shepard is not.