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jreezy wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth is my squadmate, she doesn't opperate on "the end justifies the means". I personally don't have problems with her, other people do. Keeping people safe from a predator that doesn't kill is a bad decision. 

I don't know if Morinth wants to meld, I really don't. And right now it doesn't matter.

All she has killed are the result of asari regulations.

So If I had a lion that's never killed anything before and let it roam the streets that would be a smart decision to you?

Predator and doesn't kill should not be in the same sentence.

I kept it in seclusion.

lol this is an example of how a child would make more sense then D.Kain

Child: But Lions eat people right?

D.Kain: It doesn't matter you shouldn't keep it in seclusion. They should be let out into the general populace.

Child: But they eat people. I don't want to be around something that eats people.

D.Kain: Don't worry. If it eats someone all you have to do is treat it with the utmost respect and it might not tear you to tiny little pieces.

Child:... I want my mommy!

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth is my squadmate, she doesn't opperate on "the end justifies the means". I personally don't have problems with her, other people do. Keeping people safe from a predator that doesn't kill is a bad decision. 

I don't know if Morinth wants to meld, I really don't. And right now it doesn't matter.

All she has killed are the result of asari regulations.

So If I had a lion that's never killed anything before and let it roam the streets that would be a smart decision to you?

Well then Predator and Morinth shouldn't be in the same too.

Predator and doesn't kill should not be in the same sentence.

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jreezy wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

I'm finding it hard to believe that you're actually debating with a young adult. He has the mentality of a child.

Not exactly. Even young children  can grasp the basic concepts of morality at least most of the times. 

Wow. So...A baby? No they can't type. Well I give up.

I don't know man. There were some babies on commercials that seem to be able to carry on some good conversations and they actually acted sane while looking as cute as a button. Calling D.Kain a baby is an insult to babies :happy:

[BlueMagitek]

D.Kain wrote...
She is on my crew because she chose to be, and because I chose her over Samara. I scratch her back, she scratches my back. It's up to the goverment to do what they will. If they are going to attack Morinth without releasing other AY I am going to defend her and kill them. 

It doesn't depend on it. I am just curious of what she wants to accomplish. If you want her to stop killing release the AY and ask her to stop, then you will have the right to kill her if she will still continue.

STOP beating that old horse. I already elaborated everything on that particular thing. OMG 
I am ok with her wanting to meld with Shepard, leave it at that, it is not bad.

It is on asari shoulders not hers. 

You're completely unreasonable.  You're demanding that billions if not trillions of people believe in your morals and do things how you see fit.  And if not, you'll unleash a horrifying creature onto them.   What's to stop them from just blowing up the Normandy?  Well?

You said that you didn't know if she made the wrong choice or not and you were waiting to see her goals to decide on it!  That's judging by the end!  You can't ignore that she's been killing innocent people for 400 years!

I don't care if you're okay with it, it proves she's still interested in melding even though she isn't being hunted anymore!  That's the point!

No, it's her fault.  She chose to kill them.  What is so hard to understand that a person takes responsibility for their own actions?  She may have been mistreated by the Asari government, but she is the one who decided to meld and kill for over four centuries.  That's Morinth's fault, not the Asari governments.

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jreezy wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth is my squadmate, she doesn't opperate on "the end justifies the means". I personally don't have problems with her, other people do. Keeping people safe from a predator that doesn't kill is a bad decision. 

I don't know if Morinth wants to meld, I really don't. And right now it doesn't matter.

All she has killed are the result of asari regulations.

So If I had a lion that's never killed anything before and let it roam the streets that would be a smart decision to you?

Predator and doesn't kill should not be in the same sentence.

I kept it in seclusion.

lol this is an example of how a child would make more sense then D.Kain

Child: But Lions eat people right?

D.Kain: It doesn't matter you shouldn't keep it in seclusion. They should be let out into the general populace.

Child: But they eat people. I don't want to be around something that eats people.

D.Kain: Don't worry. If it eats someone all you have to do is treat it with the utmost respect and it might not tear you to tiny little pieces.

Child:... I want my mommy!

Ha! +10 internets.

Sadly that probably actually happened before.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

I'm finding it hard to believe that you're actually debating with a young adult. He has the mentality of a child.

Not exactly. Even young children  can grasp the basic concepts of morality at least most of the times. 

Wow. So...A baby? No they can't type. Well I give up.

I don't know man. There were some babies on commercials that seem to be able to carry on some good conversations and they actually acted sane while looking as cute as a button. Calling D.Kain a baby is an insult to babies :happy:

Have fun, I don't get insulted by silly comments. 

[1136342t54_]

Its not necessarily an insult. We are just trying to figure out the reasons you think this way. If you aren't a troll then there must be some reason why.

[D.Kain]

BlueMagitek wrote...

You're completely unreasonable.  You're demanding that billions if not trillions of people believe in your morals and do things how you see fit.  And if not, you'll unleash a horrifying creature onto them.   What's to stop them from just blowing up the Normandy?  Well?

You said that you didn't know if she made the wrong choice or not and you were waiting to see her goals to decide on it!  That's judging by the end!  You can't ignore that she's been killing innocent people for 400 years!

I don't care if you're okay with it, it proves she's still interested in melding even though she isn't being hunted anymore!  That's the point!

No, it's her fault.  She chose to kill them.  What is so hard to understand that a person takes responsibility for their own actions?  She may have been mistreated by the Asari government, but she is the one who decided to meld and kill for over four centuries.  That's Morinth's fault, not the Asari governments.

I don't demand I propose. I do not unleash anyone, THEY are the ones that made Morinth into what she is, I will just not stop her. Well if their messed up morals mean more to them than life, and my ability to stop the reapers, they can start shooting any time. I will fight back though, and so will others on my side.

I don't ignore her killing people, I just don't judge her. 

It doesn't mean that she can't hold herself together, and it doesn't mean that it is stronger than her.

It's not her fault. You can't blame a person for choosing bad, when all choices were bad! The choices were just different, they are still all bad.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not necessarily an insult. We are just trying to figure out the reasons you think this way. If you aren't a troll then there must be some reason why.

Funny thing also is, believe it or not, most people that I talk to, think I am an intelegent and intelectual person. Rarely do I hear that I am worse than a baby. Must be something...

Modifié par D.Kain, 05 octobre 2011 - 02:22 .

[SandTrout]

D.Kain wrote...

Think what you will. This is my choice in the game and I will make it as I see fit. I think that it is for the best and for destruction.

You're insane if you think pointless destruction is for the best.

[D.Kain]

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Think what you will. This is my choice in the game and I will make it as I see fit. I think that it is for the best and for destruction.

You're insane if you think pointless destruction is for the best.

Oh I must of misstyped. There should be a ''not'' before ''for''. 

[BlueMagitek]

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

You're completely unreasonable.  You're demanding that billions if not trillions of people believe in your morals and do things how you see fit.  And if not, you'll unleash a horrifying creature onto them.   What's to stop them from just blowing up the Normandy?  Well?

You said that you didn't know if she made the wrong choice or not and you were waiting to see her goals to decide on it!  That's judging by the end!  You can't ignore that she's been killing innocent people for 400 years!

I don't care if you're okay with it, it proves she's still interested in melding even though she isn't being hunted anymore!  That's the point!

No, it's her fault.  She chose to kill them.  What is so hard to understand that a person takes responsibility for their own actions?  She may have been mistreated by the Asari government, but she is the one who decided to meld and kill for over four centuries.  That's Morinth's fault, not the Asari governments.

I don't demand I propose. I do not unleash anyone, THEY are the ones that made Morinth into what she is, I will just not stop her. Well if their messed up morals mean more to them than life, and my ability to stop the reapers, they can start shooting any time. I will fight back though, and so will others on my side.

I don't ignore her killing people, I just don't judge her. 

It doesn't mean that she can't hold herself together, and it doesn't mean that it is stronger than her.

It's not her fault. You can't blame a person for choosing bad, when all choices were bad! The choices were just different, they are still all bad.

No, Morinth chose who she became.  Just like Shepard chooses who he becomes.  And lol, you're calling *their* morals messed up?  Yours are far more screwed than the Asari's, as questionable as they are.  And you *did* threaten to unleash Morinth on the masses several pages ago if they disagreed with you.  

You don't judge her?  She's an unrepetant creature who has been killing for over 400 years.  She doesn't show regret for what she has done, she doesn't feel bad about it.   Stop ignoring what you've claimed and back it up! 

...She doesn't need to kill to gain power to escape those evil justicars anymore, so she shouldn't have any more interest in melding.  But she DOES have interest in melding, and as such, the idea "she only melds for power to fight the Justicars" is false.  

It is her fault.  She ran, yes.  She could have chosen not to kill.  She did not.  It was her choice.  Samara didn't hold a gun to her head and say "Meld or die".  

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D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not necessarily an insult. We are just trying to figure out the reasons you think this way. If you aren't a troll then there must be some reason why.

Funny thing also is, believe it or not, most people that I talk to, think I am an intelegent and intelectual person. Rarely do I hear that I am worse than a baby. Must be something...

Depends on the people.

[D.Kain]

BlueMagitek wrote...

No, Morinth chose who she became.  Just like Shepard chooses who he becomes.  And lol, you're calling *their* morals messed up?  Yours are far more screwed than the Asari's, as questionable as they are.  And you *did* threaten to unleash Morinth on the masses several pages ago if they disagreed with you.  

You don't judge her?  She's an unrepetant creature who has been killing for over 400 years.  She doesn't show regret for what she has done, she doesn't feel bad about it.   Stop ignoring what you've claimed and back it up! 

...She doesn't need to kill to gain power to escape those evil justicars anymore, so she shouldn't have any more interest in melding.  But she DOES have interest in melding, and as such, the idea "she only melds for power to fight the Justicars" is false.  

It is her fault.  She ran, yes.  She could have chosen not to kill.  She did not.  It was her choice.  Samara didn't hold a gun to her head and say "Meld or die".  

Morinth chose out of bad choices. Yes I am calling their morals messed up. Not unleash. You are talking like she is my weapon or something. Simply let her go, and do what she wishes.

She doesn't need to repent when she didn't have a good choice. I was answering some questions about her through your lense.

She want's to meld with Shepard, because he is that awesome, that doesn't tell me anything else. 

You don't know if she could not kill and have a full life. That's basically what Samara did. 

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not necessarily an insult. We are just trying to figure out the reasons you think this way. If you aren't a troll then there must be some reason why.

Funny thing also is, believe it or not, most people that I talk to, think I am an intelegent and intelectual person. Rarely do I hear that I am worse than a baby. Must be something...

Depends on the people.

I guess some has to do with it being online text, and not a face to face conversation, or atleast a call talk.

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not necessarily an insult. We are just trying to figure out the reasons you think this way. If you aren't a troll then there must be some reason why.

Funny thing also is, believe it or not, most people that I talk to, think I am an intelegent and intelectual person. Rarely do I hear that I am worse than a baby. Must be something...

Depends on the people.

I guess some has to do with it being online text, and not a face to face conversation, or atleast a call talk.

Face to Face there are some people who would likely punch you for some of the things you have said. 

No offense.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

Face to Face there are some people who would likely punch you for some of the things you have said. 

No offense.

Heh, I do boxing.. 

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Face to Face there are some people who would likely punch you for some of the things you have said. 

No offense.

Heh, I do boxing.. 

Who says the person who is punching isn't a well trained Delta force operative?

[BlueMagitek]

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth chose out of bad choices. Yes I am calling their morals messed up. Not unleash. You are talking like she is my weapon or something. Simply let her go, and do what she wishes.

She doesn't need to repent when she didn't have a good choice. I was answering some questions about her through your lense.

She want's to meld with Shepard, because he is that awesome, that doesn't tell me anything else. 

You don't know if she could not kill and have a full life. That's basically what Samara did. 

Morinth chose to run.  Okay, fine.  She chose to kill.  Not fine.  And considering you're willing to just let her go and meld as she pleases if you don't get your way, you are unleashing a predator among sheep.  Hell, if you are right, then letting her go wouldn't affect the Asari at all, so your threat holds no weight.

Ugh.  I'm sure.

The point exists that she wants to meld even though Samara is dead.  Your point is invalid.

So if she didn't kill she wouldn't have a full life?  Well **** her then, if her life is only fufilled by destroying the lives of others, she doesn't get to lvie a full life.  And no, Samara did not do that.  Morinth chose to run, she deals with the consequences of that.  Does not give her the right to kill innocents.

You know what, if Morinth really wanted to get away from the Justicar, why didn't she just go to the Terminus Systems?  They're outside Asari space, they're hated by the Council so she doesn't need to worry about Asari influence.  She's had 400 years, what's taken her so long?  The only reason a Justicar would suspect an AY to exist out there is if she left a trail of bodies (which Morinth did), otherwise she'd just disappear.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I'm 99% certain D.Kain doesn't go around telling people that he thinks serial killers who had poor childhoods should be apologized to and asked politely to stop.

If he does and his friends still think he is intellegent then I'm definitely not going anywhere near Eastern Europe.

[D.Kain]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Morinth chose to run.  Okay, fine.  She chose to kill.  Not fine.  And considering you're willing to just let her go and meld as she pleases if you don't get your way, you are unleashing a predator among sheep.  Hell, if you are right, then letting her go wouldn't affect the Asari at all, so your threat holds no weight.

Ugh.  I'm sure.

The point exists that she wants to meld even though Samara is dead.  Your point is invalid.

So if she didn't kill she wouldn't have a full life?  Well **** her then, if her life is only fufilled by destroying the lives of others, she doesn't get to lvie a full life.  And no, Samara did not do that.  Morinth chose to run, she deals with the consequences of that.  Does not give her the right to kill innocents.

You know what, if Morinth really wanted to get away from the Justicar, why didn't she just go to the Terminus Systems?  They're outside Asari space, they're hated by the Council so she doesn't need to worry about Asari influence.  She's had 400 years, what's taken her so long?  The only reason a Justicar would suspect an AY to exist out there is if she left a trail of bodies (which Morinth did), otherwise she'd just disappear.

I don't know what she wants to do. I don't know her motives completely. I know that she was treated unfair. 
If she didn't kill she probably wouldn't have a full life, while she is being hunted. 
I already told you that Morinth didn't want to run as far as possible and sit there. She wanted to see the world and do things, to do that she must be strong to fight off the justicars.

If asari would bring AY in the open. Make AY identify, say make a tattoo on their foreheads and let them go into society it would be ok. Further more, if an AY kills somebody not a lonely justicar but the whole police would catch that AY in no time and deal with her. If an AY doesn't like to live in society and considers it too much to handdle they can go into seclusion by their own will. 

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Face to Face there are some people who would likely punch you for some of the things you have said. 

No offense.

Heh, I do boxing.. 

Who says the person who is punching isn't a well trained Delta force operative?

Well then I would be screwed, bad for me.