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[SandTrout]

D.Kain wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

My God. People are so easily manipulated into treating other people like crap and thinking that it is the right thing to do. I'm shoked. They feel so right, that when somebody want's to fix the issue and stop the cycle of injustice, it is considered insane and amoral.

Indeed, why do you want to treat hundreds of muder victims like they diserved to be killed?

I don't. But they were killed because of asari laws.

No. They were killed because of Morinth.

I would say I am shocked that someone is so desperate to absolve a muderer of their actions because of a miniscule unfainess in their life, but I see it too often. That doesn't make it any less sick. People are responsible for their own choices. We only wish to hold people acountable for their choices, why is that such a terrible thing?

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

My God. People are so easily manipulated into treating other people like crap and thinking that it is the right thing to do. I'm shoked. They feel so right, that when somebody want's to fix the issue and stop the cycle of injustice, it is considered insane and amoral.

Indeed, why do you want to treat hundreds of muder victims like they diserved to be killed?

I don't. But they were killed because of asari laws.

You have a very young brain my friend.

The same as yours. After you fix the problem there is going to be another Morinth someday that kills more people for 400 more years. After I fix this problem, there won't.

[D.Kain]

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Why should the asari get away with needlessly putting people into crappy situations and having it fixed for them?

The fact that Morinth used her freedom to serially murder people demonstrably proves that the Asari plan was not needless.

No it proves the completely opposite. She didn't have her freedom without being treated like a murderer, she had nothing to loose, and everything to gain by murder. 

*chuckle* She was treated like a murderer because the Asari have some experience with Ardat-Yakshi, and know that given their freedom, they become serial murderers.  Shockingly, when Morinth had her freedom, she... you guessed it... became a serial murderer.  Thus, the Asari plan to put her in seclusion was not needless.

What she had to lose by murder was her freedom and her life.  Once she left Asari space (and possibly while in it), no one would ever have found her had she not left a trail of bodies to track her by. 

She either became a murderer because she had no choice (in which case pre-emptively locking her up was entirely proper), or she did it by choice, demonstrating that she is a monster, and that she should have been locked up before she got the chance.

Nothing ever justifies punishing people before they commited a crime. That's what asari did. That's why I am with Morinth. Everything she did I will blame on them until they stop their injustice. THEN if she still continues I will put her down. Asari basically tie my hands...

[D.Kain]

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

My God. People are so easily manipulated into treating other people like crap and thinking that it is the right thing to do. I'm shoked. They feel so right, that when somebody want's to fix the issue and stop the cycle of injustice, it is considered insane and amoral.

Indeed, why do you want to treat hundreds of muder victims like they diserved to be killed?

I don't. But they were killed because of asari laws.

No. They were killed because of Morinth.

I would say I am shocked that someone is so desperate to absolve a muderer of their actions because of a miniscule unfainess in their life, but I see it too often. That doesn't make it any less sick. People are responsible for their own choices. We only wish to hold people acountable for their choices, why is that such a terrible thing?

Miniscule? Death is miniscule? Why do you even have a problem with Morinth? lol

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

My God. People are so easily manipulated into treating other people like crap and thinking that it is the right thing to do. I'm shoked. They feel so right, that when somebody want's to fix the issue and stop the cycle of injustice, it is considered insane and amoral.

Indeed, why do you want to treat hundreds of muder victims like they diserved to be killed?

I don't. But they were killed because of asari laws.

You have a very young brain my friend.

The same as yours. After you fix the problem there is going to be another Morinth someday that kills more people for 400 more years. After I fix this problem, there won't.

I doubt it. The way you're defending Morinth's choices you seem to have about ten more years. No one but a kid would be as naive as you are.

YOU are the one naive! Open your eyes!

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Miniscule? Death is miniscule? Why do you even have a problem with Morinth? lol

No. Is there some kind of point to be made here as if death was supposed to apply to Morinth?

So is there like a different person every 5 minutes on your account? lol

[Ravensword]

D.Kain wrote...

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Why should the asari get away with needlessly putting people into crappy situations and having it fixed for them?

The fact that Morinth used her freedom to serially murder people demonstrably proves that the Asari plan was not needless.

No it proves the completely opposite. She didn't have her freedom without being treated like a murderer, she had nothing to loose, and everything to gain by murder. 

*chuckle* She was treated like a murderer because the Asari have some experience with Ardat-Yakshi, and know that given their freedom, they become serial murderers.  Shockingly, when Morinth had her freedom, she... you guessed it... became a serial murderer.  Thus, the Asari plan to put her in seclusion was not needless.

What she had to lose by murder was her freedom and her life.  Once she left Asari space (and possibly while in it), no one would ever have found her had she not left a trail of bodies to track her by. 

She either became a murderer because she had no choice (in which case pre-emptively locking her up was entirely proper), or she did it by choice, demonstrating that she is a monster, and that she should have been locked up before she got the chance.

Nothing ever justifies punishing people before they commited a crime. That's what asari did. That's why I am with Morinth. Everything she did I will blame on them until they stop their injustice. THEN if she still continues I will put her down. Asari basically tie my hands...

I see your point, but regardless, she is a monster. Maybe you can argue that because of the way that the Asari treated her as an A-Y would've pushed her into running away and becoming a murderer, but she is a menace to galactic society and must be dealt w/ and unless the Asari government deliberately unleashed her upon the galaxy for whatever reason then it's really not the Asari government's fault. Yes, she got a raw deal, but as Samara, that when Morinth chose to run she wasn't making a grand moral stand but simply proved her addiction and wanted to go about frying their brains.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Miniscule? Death is miniscule? Why do you even have a problem with Morinth? lol

No. Is there some kind of point to be made here as if death was supposed to apply to Morinth?

So is there like a different person every 5 minutes on your account? lol

So what are we talking about now? I answered your question of whether death is miniscule and you're confused?

No you asked me a question that I answerer once for every page on this thread.

[D.Kain]

Ravensword wrote...

I see your point, but regardless, she is a monster. Maybe you can argue that because of the way that the Asari treated her as an A-Y would've pushed her into running away and becoming a murderer, but she is a menace to galactic society and must be dealt w/ and unless the Asari government deliberately unleashed her upon the galaxy for whatever reason then it's really not the Asari government's fault. Yes, she got a raw deal, but as Samara, that when Morinth chose to run she wasn't making a grand moral stand but simply proved her addiction and wanted to go about frying their brains.

Morinth didn't go BACK to anything she just run away, she hasn't even started when she was already considered a murderer and issued a death sentence. As I said, Morinth is not getting hurt until asari stop their injustice.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Miniscule? Death is miniscule? Why do you even have a problem with Morinth? lol

No. Is there some kind of point to be made here as if death was supposed to apply to Morinth?

So is there like a different person every 5 minutes on your account? lol

So what are we talking about now? I answered your question of whether death is miniscule and you're confused?

No you asked me a question that I answerer once for every page on this thread.

So you weren't trying to make a point then. That's all I wanted to know.

Me trying to make a point? No never. How did that assumption even come to you?

[Ravensword]

D.Kain wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I see your point, but regardless, she is a monster. Maybe you can argue that because of the way that the Asari treated her as an A-Y would've pushed her into running away and becoming a murderer, but she is a menace to galactic society and must be dealt w/ and unless the Asari government deliberately unleashed her upon the galaxy for whatever reason then it's really not the Asari government's fault. Yes, she got a raw deal, but as Samara, that when Morinth chose to run she wasn't making a grand moral stand but simply proved her addiction and wanted to go about frying their brains.

Morinth didn't go BACK to anything she just run away, she hasn't even started when she was already considered a murderer and issued a death sentence. As I said, Morinth is not getting hurt until asari stop their injustice.

Is that so?

[D.Kain]

Ravensword wrote...

Is that so?

You want me to type: yes? 

Yes.

Modifié par D.Kain, 05 octobre 2011 - 10:18 .

[D.Kain]

Dunstan wrote...

So, how's it going?

I'm just going to bed for now.

[SandTrout]

D.Kain wrote...

Miniscule? Death is miniscule?

No, the initial offer was a miniscule injustice. That was comfortable seclusion, which was safer for everyone, Morinth included.

Why do you even have a problem with Morinth? lol

She's a mass murderer. I tend to have problems with people who kill unnecessarily without justification.

[Ravensword]

D.Kain wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Is that so?

You want me to type: yes? 

Yes.

Thank you. If she decided to run away to have her freedom why couldn't she have done it w/o killing people? Whether or not she became a monster because of the choices she was given doesn't mean that she's any less of the monster she already is. She chose to run away from the choices she was given to be free and then she would later start killing people.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Have I mentioned that it's fun to let Samara kill her?

Because it really truly is.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 05 octobre 2011 - 10:52 .

[Ravensword]

Not only that, but betraying Samara after she swore an a sacred oath to serve you is really msessed up.