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[Asenza]

D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

You're wrong. She DID have a choice.

Morinth's choices:
1- submit to seclusion.
2- run away and live peacefully (i.e not rape/murder hundreds, maybe thousands)
3- run away AND rape/murder hundreds, maybe thousands.

Annnnd Morinth chose.... 3!

The A-Y disorder only results in the death of the Ardat-Yakshi's partner during sex. Sex, for an individual, is not necessary for their continued existence. She did not have to kill anyone, ever. Morinth did not need to kill people to live (as evidenced by her sisters peaceful continued existence). Morinth just wanted to kill people.

You're only avoiding the issue of Nef entirely, because you can't justify Morinth's murder of her. Nef didn't "pursue" Morinth, she wasn't a merc trying to kill her, or a Justicar trying to end her murderous career. She was just a lonely, struggling artist on Omega, and Morinth killed her because she could, because it was fun. Not because the asari-government forced Morinth to.

From the choices that you listed, choice 1 and 3 are bad. The choice number 2 she didn't have. Because she needs to meld to survive. Not because her biology needs it, but because she needs the power to fight back Samara and other random thugs, mercs in the galaxy.

Every Asari is born with biotics. She had power all her own.

Also, if she didn't... wait for it, KILL PEOPLE, then she wouldn't need to defend herself from Samara or teh evilz Asari government.

Modifié par Asenza, 06 octobre 2011 - 08:16 .

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

You're wrong. She DID have a choice.

Morinth's choices:
1- submit to seclusion.
2- run away and live peacefully (i.e not rape/murder hundreds, maybe thousands)
3- run away AND rape/murder hundreds, maybe thousands.

Annnnd Morinth chose.... 3!

The A-Y disorder only results in the death of the Ardat-Yakshi's partner during sex. Sex, for an individual, is not necessary for their continued existence. She did not have to kill anyone, ever. Morinth did not need to kill people to live (as evidenced by her sisters peaceful continued existence). Morinth just wanted to kill people.

You're only avoiding the issue of Nef entirely, because you can't justify Morinth's murder of her. Nef didn't "pursue" Morinth, she wasn't a merc trying to kill her, or a Justicar trying to end her murderous career. She was just a lonely, struggling artist on Omega, and Morinth killed her because she could, because it was fun. Not because the asari-government forced Morinth to.

From the choices that you listed, choice 1 and 3 are bad. The choice number 2 she didn't have. Because she needs to meld to survive. Not because her biology needs it, but because she needs the power to fight back Samara and other random thugs, mercs in the galaxy.

Every Asari is born with biotics. She had power all her own.

Yes because all 50 year old asari have enough power to travel the dangerous galaxy on their own, and are perfectly capable of dealing with any poroblems or threats. It's like a 16 year old girl. She had to deal with peole that are out of law, because she was a fugitive.

Modifié par D.Kain, 06 octobre 2011 - 08:16 .

[Asenza]

@D.Kain,

Please, if you're determined to defend the monster get ONE thing straight about her. Morinth was forty when she ran away.

Modifié par Asenza, 06 octobre 2011 - 08:22 .

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

@D.Kain,

Please, if you're determined to defend the monster get ONE thing straight about her. Morinth was forty when she ran away.

No. She was forty when she was forced into seclusion. She ran away a little after. I speculated on how much, but still it doesn't make a lot of difference, does it? 

[alex90c]

D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

@D.Kain,

Please, if you're determined to defend the monster get ONE thing straight about her. Morinth was forty when she ran away.

No. She was forty when she was forced into seclusion. She ran away a little after. I speculated on how much, but still it doesn't make a lot of difference, does it? 

Just stopping by to say that your posts for the past few pages are

WRONG.

Morinth <3 killing

GET OVER IT.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

Proof or it never happened. Then again, most of the points you bring up are straight out of a Mass Effect 2 Morinth fan fiction.

Proof of what? that Morinth was in seclusion? Where did she run away from? If she said from the beginning that she never wanted to go to seclusion she would be killed.

[D.Kain]

alex90c wrote...

Just stopping by to say that your posts for the past few pages are

WRONG.

Morinth <3 killing

GET OVER IT.

Why should I get over it if there is no evidance for what you say?

[Asenza]

jreezy wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Did someone hack your copy of ME2 and change dialogue?  Or are you delusional, or afflicted with selective memory, or what? 

He's mentally ill. I figured that out a while back.

I'm leaning towards that theory as well.

Delusional, disturbed, afflicted with selective memory and determined to disobey all callings of reason.

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

jreezy wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Did someone hack your copy of ME2 and change dialogue?  Or are you delusional, or afflicted with selective memory, or what? 

He's mentally ill. I figured that out a while back.

I'm leaning towards that theory as well.

Delusional, disturbed, afflicted with selective memory and determined to disobey all callings of reason.

Riiiight.

I should probably post those kind of comments too, regarding those that I speak with. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 06 octobre 2011 - 08:44 .

[Asenza]

@ D.Kain,

You are afflicted with selective memory because you ignore the entire issue of Nef.

You are determined to disobey all callings of reason because Morinth has not made excuses for herself, yet you do.

You are disturbed because you claim that Morinth has the right to kill hundreds, thousands, all because she was told to live in comfort and seclusion, for the public good.

You are delusional because you claim that Morinth would stop killing if given the chance. Despite the fact that she has had hundreds, maybe thousands of chances over the span of four-hundred years.

Modifié par Asenza, 06 octobre 2011 - 08:59 .

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

@ D.Kain,

You are afflicted with selective memory because you ignore the entire issue of Nef.

You are determined to disobey all callings of reason because Morinth has not made excuses for herself, yet you do.

You are disturbed because you claim that Morinth has the right to kill hundreds, thousands, all because she was told to live in comfort and seclusion, for the public good.

You are delusional because you claim that Morinth would stop killing if given the chance. Despite the fact that she has had hundreds, maybe thousands of chances over the span of four-hundred years.

What is the issue of Nef? What makes her different from all others that Morinth killed? 

Morinth doesn't need to make excuses for trying to survive. 

Morinth has the right to survive, because she would rather die than live in seclusion. Public good should not be built on unhapiness of some of public members.

Morinth didn't want to take chances until Samara was dead. 

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
What is the issue of Nef? What makes her different from all others that Morinth killed?

Not just Nef, any innocent victim of Morinth really. 

Morinth doesn't need to make excuses for trying to survive.

Then why are you making them? 

Morinth has the right to survive, because she would rather die than live in seclusion. Public good should not be built on unhapiness of some of public members.

Show me where she says this and I'll believe the rest of your statement...Maybe.

Morinth didn't want to take chances until Samara was dead. 

What chances exactly?

So what is the issue? Them dying? Yes that's bad. But they are already dead. And blame is on the asari and justicars.

What do you mean? Morinth is excused. She doesn't need excuses for trying to survive, because that in itself is an excuse.

Her running away isn't the proof? She is hunted to death BECAUSE she ran out of seclusion = seclusion is worse than death, she took that risk.

Chances of dying if she is found for living like other asari with registration, and chances to be killed by unlawful community, because she has to deal with them. 

[BatmanPWNS]

I think we should stop taking D.Kain seriously. If he was forced to survive I am sure he'd kill all of us.

[Collider]

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.

Modifié par Collider, 06 octobre 2011 - 09:55 .

[D.Kain]

[quote]jreezy wrote...

[quote]D.Kain wrote...

So what is the issue? Them dying? Yes that's bad. But they are already dead. And blame is on the asari and justicars.[/quote]
And this is why you're always wrong.
[quote]What do you mean? Morinth is excused. She doesn't need excuses for trying to survive, because that in itself is an excuse.[/quote]
I just aked you why you were making excuses then you denied that you were, then you proceeded to make another one. If the person in question does not justify her actions you definitely don't have the right to.
[quote]Her running away isn't the proof? She is hunted to death BECAUSE she ran out of seclusion = seclusion is worse than death, she took that risk.[/quote]
Running away=being secluded now? Tsk.
[quote]Chances of dying if she is found for living like other asari with registration, and chances to be killed by unlawful community, because she has to deal with them.[/quote]
What the heck does Samara have to do with any of that? If Ardat-Yakshi were registered to live amongst the Asari Samara would have no need of hunting her down. What is this unlawful community you speak of?



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Think what you will. I think I am right.

Morinth doesn't justify her actions? When did she say: I am bad, and I had no right to kill those people?

No, English again. Running  away from seclusion was what I meant, not out of.

Yes, if AY were registered among asari everything would be fine. Unlawful community is galaxy thugs, merceneries, smuglers. Those that Morinth has to deal with, like it or not.

[D.Kain]

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.

Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

[D.Kain]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I think we should stop taking D.Kain seriously. If he was forced to survive I am sure he'd kill all of us.

Right after you put me into a prison for no good reason, or try to kill me when I refuse.

[Collider]

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.

Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

The AY disease is described as a desire to mate increasingly more and more with each successful mating. In other words, addicting.

And if she is in full control, that warrants her execution even more.

[D.Kain]

Collider wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.

Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

The AY disease is described as a desire to mate increasingly more and more with each successful mating. In other words, addicting.

And if she is in full control, that warrants her execution even more.

There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So? 

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all. 

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way. 

[Ravensword]

D.Kain wrote...

There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So?

Yes, but people don't die instantly from having sex w/ someone. That only happens to people who meld w/ an A-Y. A-Y shouldn't be having sex w/ people because of that.

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all.

Yes, it does. That means that she isn't insane and did harm knowing full well what she was doing. She is a cold blooded murderer who was in direct control of her actions and not someone sufferring from a mental disorder.

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way.

Sure and if Morinth ran away to avoid that she could've decided to live a celibate life. W/o murdering people and living a body trail for Samra to follow it's likely that Samara would've never found her.

Modifié par Ravensword, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:01 .