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Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

The AY disease is described as a desire to mate increasingly more and more with each successful mating. In other words, addicting.

And if she is in full control, that warrants her execution even more.


There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So? 

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all. 

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way. 


But killing is?

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

The AY disease is described as a desire to mate increasingly more and more with each successful mating. In other words, addicting.

And if she is in full control, that warrants her execution even more.


There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So? 

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all. 

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way. 


But killing is?


Obviously!:wizard:

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There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So?


Yes, but people don't die instantly from having sex w/ someone. That only happens to people who meld w/ an A-Y. A-Y shouldn't be having sex w/ people because of that.

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all.

Yes, it does. That means that she isn't insane and did harm knowing full well what she was doing. She is a cold blooded murderer who was in direct control of her actions and not someone sufferring from a mental disorder.

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way.

Sure and if Morinth ran away to avoid that she could've decided to live a celibate life. W/o murdering people and living a body trail for Samra to follow it's likely that Samara would've never found her.


So? I am talking about Morinth not having killed a lot of people if she wasn't a subject to seclusion.

Yes she is not insane. She understands that it is a kill or be killed situation and wants to survive.

Read my previous comments on this. It's not even far - on the top of previous page.

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

The AY disease is described as a desire to mate increasingly more and more with each successful mating. In other words, addicting.

And if she is in full control, that warrants her execution even more.


There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So? 

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all. 

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way. 


But killing is?



Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.

Modifié par D.Kain, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:18 .


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D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.

The AY disease is described as a desire to mate increasingly more and more with each successful mating. In other words, addicting.

And if she is in full control, that warrants her execution even more.


There wouldn't be more and more matings if AY weren't a subject to seclution, they would also be stopped a lot faster, just in case. Real people also want more sex, when they try it the first time. So? 

Her being in control doesn't warrant her execution at all. 

Seclusion is BAD. Seclusion is not justified in any way. 


But killing is?



Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.


And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?

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Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.


So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?

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Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.


So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?



Exactly!:wizard:

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Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.


So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?




No, if you imprison a serial killer, that is right. But Morinth was never a serial killer.

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And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up. She wanted to kill me afterwards anyway.

Modifié par D.Kain, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:40 .


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And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up.

While Morinth is obviously a well adjusted polite cutie pie who would never under any circumstances mindrape anyone.....


..............:alien:

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:41 .


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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

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And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up.

But Morinth is obviously a well adjusted polite cutie pie who would never under any circumstances mindrape anyone.....


..............:alien:


She does it under some circumstances.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

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And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up.

But Morinth is obviously a well adjusted polite cutie pie who would never under any circumstances mindrape anyone.....


..............:alien:


She does it under some circumstances.

But she never does it in front of me so obviously it's all lies from the EVUL justicars!!!!!!:alien:

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up.

But Morinth is obviously a well adjusted polite cutie pie who would never under any circumstances mindrape anyone.....


..............:alien:


She does it under some circumstances.

But she never does it in front of me so obviously it's all lies from the EVUL justicars!!!!!!:alien:


What does it matter if she does it infront of me or not? I know she killed people, and that's why Samara has to pay.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up.

But Morinth is obviously a well adjusted polite cutie pie who would never under any circumstances mindrape anyone.....


..............:alien:


She does it under some circumstances.

But she never does it in front of me so obviously it's all lies from the EVUL justicars!!!!!!:alien:


What does it matter if she does it infront of me or not? I know she killed people, and that's why Samara has to pay.

Of course because it is in no way what-so-ever Morinth's fault in any way shape or form! After all she didn't choose to mindrape those people!:alien:

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

And what of betraying Samara who swore a sacred oath to serve you?


I don't care about ''sacred'' oath's of people who are messed up.

But Morinth is obviously a well adjusted polite cutie pie who would never under any circumstances mindrape anyone.....


..............:alien:


She does it under some circumstances.

But she never does it in front of me so obviously it's all lies from the EVUL justicars!!!!!!:alien:


What does it matter if she does it infront of me or not? I know she killed people, and that's why Samara has to pay.

Of course because it is in no way what-so-ever Morinth's fault in any way shape or form! After all she didn't choose to mindrape those people!:alien:


Yes she did choose to mindrape people, but I don't judge her for that, because it was nescecery for her to survive.

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Do you read what you post?

You have admitted that she chooses to mindrape people for the express purpose of getting stronger "and getting her rocks off".

And yet it's not her fault.

You don't see any holes in that idea do you?

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:50 .


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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Do you read what you post?

You have admitted that she chooses to mindrape people for the express purpose of stronger "and getting her rocks off".

And yet it's not her fault.

You don't see any holes in that idea do you?


It's not to get her rocks off, it's to get stronger. She needed to be strong to survive. 
If she wasn't hunted by justicars, she wouldn't need to be strong and wouldn't need to mindrape anybody. 
I see that seclusion is the reason of everything that happened, and I see that seclusion needs to stop.

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I am frightened and confused.

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You see absolutely no holes in your idea at all do you?

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I am frightened and confused.

Sarcastic agreement is often a great way to get naive people to put it all on the proverbial table.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You see absolutely no holes in your idea at all do you?

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No I don't. What are the holes?

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You see absolutely no holes in your idea at all do you?


No I don't. What are the holes?


Body trails-guess how they track rogue AY.

Her "friendly" encounter with Nef.

Her intentions towards you before she knows you are Commander Freaking Shepard.

The Codex.

All in-game information.

Basic deductive reasoning.

To name a few.

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:lol: This is one of the most amusing threads I've read all week. The blind fanaticism is strong in this one.

Modifié par Topaz Bee, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:57 .


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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You see absolutely no holes in your idea at all do you?


No I don't. What are the holes?


Body trails-guess how they track rogue AY.

Her "friendly" encounter with Nef.

Her intentions towards you before she knows you are Commander Freaking Shepard.

The Codex.

All in-game information.

Basic deductive reasoning.

To name a few.


Ok. Was just checking if something new came up. These were already discused. 

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Topaz Bee wrote...

:lol: This is one of the most amusing threads I've read all week. The blind fanaticism is strong in this one.

I'm with you...I'm thinking 'Just Wow!' is Kain really defending this monster?....:blink:....And yes, Kain, I have gone back and read the last couple of pages.