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[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

And yet you still dismiss these all out of hand?


Have you noticed the sheer volume of people who disagree with you?

You also have the distressing trait of saying that anyone who disagrees with coddling the monster must hate kindness, puppies, and basic human rights when they obviously don't.

[D.Kain]

Golden Owl wrote...

Topaz Bee wrote...

This is one of the most amusing threads I've read all week. The blind fanaticism is strong in this one.

I'm with you...I'm thinking 'Just Wow!' is Kain really defending this monster?........And yes, Kain, I have gone back and read the last couple of pages.

Yeah, I really don't want Morinth to fall prey to the asari messed up regulations. 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Topaz Bee wrote...

This is one of the most amusing threads I've read all week. The blind fanaticism is strong in this one.

I'm with you...I'm thinking 'Just Wow!' is Kain really defending this monster?........And yes, Kain, I have gone back and read the last couple of pages.

Yeah, I really don't want Morinth to fall prey to the asari messed up regulations. 

But her victims can fall prey to her just fine!

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

And yet you still dismiss these all out of hand?


Have you noticed the sheer volume of people who disagree with you?

You also have the distressing trait of saying that anyone who disagrees with coddling the monster must hate kindness, puppies, and basic human rights when they obviously don't.

The opinion of majority is not the criteria for truth. 

If you like human rights you should be against seclusion. Majority here seems to love the idea.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Topaz Bee wrote...

This is one of the most amusing threads I've read all week. The blind fanaticism is strong in this one.

I'm with you...I'm thinking 'Just Wow!' is Kain really defending this monster?........And yes, Kain, I have gone back and read the last couple of pages.

Yeah, I really don't want Morinth to fall prey to the asari messed up regulations. 

But her victims can fall prey to her just fine!

Her victims fall prey to the asari regulations as well, no need for an extra one.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

And yet you still dismiss these all out of hand?


Have you noticed the sheer volume of people who disagree with you?

You also have the distressing trait of saying that anyone who disagrees with coddling the monster must hate kindness, puppies, and basic human rights when they obviously don't.

The opinion of majority is not the criteria for truth. 

If you like human rights you should be against seclusion. Majority here seems to love the idea.

So if one person suffers injustice it is perfectly acceptable for them to inflict injustice on hundreds of others?

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.

So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?

No, if you imprison a serial killer, that is right. But Morinth was never a serial killer.

But its seclusion so by your reasoning its wrong no matter what.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

And yet you still dismiss these all out of hand?


Have you noticed the sheer volume of people who disagree with you?

You also have the distressing trait of saying that anyone who disagrees with coddling the monster must hate kindness, puppies, and basic human rights when they obviously don't.

The opinion of majority is not the criteria for truth. 

If you like human rights you should be against seclusion. Majority here seems to love the idea.

So if one person suffers injustice it is perfectly acceptable for them to inflict injustice on hundreds of others?

Not just some random injustice, but the absence of basic human rights like freedom and life. It is not fine, but it is forgivable. 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Topaz Bee wrote...

This is one of the most amusing threads I've read all week. The blind fanaticism is strong in this one.

I'm with you...I'm thinking 'Just Wow!' is Kain really defending this monster?........And yes, Kain, I have gone back and read the last couple of pages.

Yeah, I really don't want Morinth to fall prey to the asari messed up regulations. 

But her victims can fall prey to her just fine!

Her victims fall prey to the asari regulations as well, no need for an extra one.

The Asari lock up AY to keep them from mindraping.

Guess what seems to happen when they run?....wait for it....they mindrape. Truly surprising.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.

So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?

No, if you imprison a serial killer, that is right. But Morinth was never a serial killer.

But its seclusion so by your reasoning its wrong no matter what.

Seclusion is a punishment. Punishing people if they have done nothing wrong is bad. 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.

So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?

No, if you imprison a serial killer, that is right. But Morinth was never a serial killer.

But its seclusion so by your reasoning its wrong no matter what.

Seclusion is a punishment. Punishing people if they have done nothing wrong is bad. 

Not when they pose a clear and present danger to everyone around them.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The Asari lock up AY to keep them from mindraping.

Guess what seems to happen when they run?....wait for it....they mindrape. Truly surprising.

Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Not when they pose a clear and present danger to everyone around them.

It doesn't matter. Punishing people BEFORE they did anything wrong is never right!

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The Asari lock up AY to keep them from mindraping.

Guess what seems to happen when they run?....wait for it....they mindrape. Truly surprising.

Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

So instead of proving them wrong with her actions she proved them right for centuries.

Good job breaking it monster.

[Golden Owl]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.

So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?

No, if you imprison a serial killer, that is right. But Morinth was never a serial killer.

But its seclusion so by your reasoning its wrong no matter what.

Seclusion is a punishment. Punishing people if they have done nothing wrong is bad. 

Kain are you trying to argue that Morinth was not a serial killer before her seclusion...so it was wrong to imprison her before she commited murder?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Not when they pose a clear and present danger to everyone around them.

It doesn't matter. Punishing people BEFORE they did anything wrong is never right!

Doesn't matter.

The safety of the majority is more important than the happiness of the individual.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 07 octobre 2011 - 01:14 .

[MisterJB]

D.Kain wrote...
Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

It does not matter why Morinth started midraping people. It doesn't even matter if she enjoys it or not (which she clearly does).
The very fact that Morinth chose to murder for centuries, enslave entire cities, etc, instead of accepting a life of confortable seclusion is enough to make her a monster.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The Asari lock up AY to keep them from mindraping.

Guess what seems to happen when they run?....wait for it....they mindrape. Truly surprising.

Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

So instead of proving them wrong with her actions she proved them right for centuries.

Good job breaking it monster.

Actually what she did, was prove them wrong. That's what YOU can't see.

[D.Kain]

Golden Owl wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Of course it is. If it's not then, you killing Morinth is not justified too ( which it's not anyway ), not talking about thousands of other people Shepard has killed.

So by your reasoning if I imprison a serial killer I am wrong but if I let a serial killer just kill people then the murder is justified?

No, if you imprison a serial killer, that is right. But Morinth was never a serial killer.

But its seclusion so by your reasoning its wrong no matter what.

Seclusion is a punishment. Punishing people if they have done nothing wrong is bad. 

Kain are you trying to argue that Morinth was not a serial killer before her seclusion...so it was wrong to imprison her before she commited murder?

Yes.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The Asari lock up AY to keep them from mindraping.

Guess what seems to happen when they run?....wait for it....they mindrape. Truly surprising.

Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

So instead of proving them wrong with her actions she proved them right for centuries.

Good job breaking it monster.

Actually what she did, was prove them wrong. That's what YOU can't see.

They said she'd mindrape.

Guess what she did....

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Not when they pose a clear and present danger to everyone around them.

It doesn't matter. Punishing people BEFORE they did anything wrong is never right!

Doesn't matter.

The safety of the majority is more important than the happiness of the individual.

No it isn't. he majority is made of individuals, every individual is a part of the majority, every individual must be treated fair.

[D.Kain]

MisterJB wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

It does not matter why Morinth started midraping people. It doesn't even matter if she enjoys it or not (which she clearly does).
The very fact that Morinth chose to murder for centuries, enslave entire cities, etc, instead of accepting a life of confortable seclusion is enough to make her a monster.

I do not agree with your statement. Seclusion is bad, she didn't have to choose it.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The Asari lock up AY to keep them from mindraping.

Guess what seems to happen when they run?....wait for it....they mindrape. Truly surprising.

Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

So instead of proving them wrong with her actions she proved them right for centuries.

Good job breaking it monster.

Actually what she did, was prove them wrong. That's what YOU can't see.

They said she'd mindrape.

Guess what she did....

Because they wanted to put her in seclusion, not because she herself wanted to do that.

[MisterJB]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
They said she'd mindrape.

Guess what she did....

Morinth chose a life of loneliness on a remote planet, removing herself from society so as to not be tempted and thus proving that not all Ardat-Yakshi are ravening monsters with no control over their urges.

Oh, wait...

[MisterJB]

D.Kain wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Locking up AY before they mindraped will never be just in my eyes. 

In Morinth's case, she started mindraping exactly BECAUSE she was asked to go into seclusion.

It does not matter why Morinth started midraping people. It doesn't even matter if she enjoys it or not (which she clearly does).
The very fact that Morinth chose to murder for centuries, enslave entire cities, etc, instead of accepting a life of confortable seclusion is enough to make her a monster.

I do not agree with your statement. Seclusion is bad, she didn't have to choose it.

It's called being selfless.