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[D.Kain]

MisterJB wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth killing Shepard = suicide. Morinth is not suicidel, she actually held to her life more than most other people.

No one in the ship knew that "Samara" is Morinth, even if they did no one would believe the commander would be stupid enough to mind-meld with an AY serial killer and after centuries, Morinth must be pretty good at hiding evidence.

So? Morinth will die right after she kills Shepard, there is no way for her to escape. She took a gambe for both Shepards and her life.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because my point and the point of all the people arguing against you is completely unfounded by any evidence whatsoever and we are all just arguing with you because we hate freedom.

No because you think that it's ok to build happiness of the majority on unhappiness of the minority, and I don't.

You see we have this tiny little advantage that you lack.

We can see a monster for what it is.

You see what you want.

And you don't?

I see the injustice - seclusion. Everything else come out of it. If there would be no seclusion, I would look at Morinth through a different lense.

No you wouldn't.
You'd continue to worship the fething ground she mindrapemurders people on.

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

So now your saying secluding AY is instead racism even though you yourself claimed that seclusion is basically imprisoning a AY because they might kill someone. Interesting.

No I am saying that no bad attitude should go AY way from asari, because that would be racism. And seclusion is bad.

Seclusion is bad and killing is bad but they are both usually done for justifiable reasons even you said that killing can be justified.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because my point and the point of all the people arguing against you is completely unfounded by any evidence whatsoever and we are all just arguing with you because we hate freedom.

No because you think that it's ok to build happiness of the majority on unhappiness of the minority, and I don't.

You see we have this tiny little advantage that you lack.

We can see a monster for what it is.

You see what you want.

And you don't?

I see the injustice - seclusion. Everything else come out of it. If there would be no seclusion, I would look at Morinth through a different lense.

No you wouldn't.
You'd continue to worship the fething ground she mindrapemurders people on.

Why would I lie? 
I already said that I would kill Morinth without a second thought if it wasn't for seclusion.

[BlueMagitek]

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

The problem *cannot* get better; it cannot be fixed (well, it can be, but apparently 40 years is too late so...).  There's no way for the AY and Asari to coexist; the Asari will always fear and loathe the AY while the AY will always be jealous of and hate the Asari for their condition.  It isn't an economic or politicla thing, it's a "You do something anyone else can do and you'll kill your partner" thing.  The only way for the problem to go away is for there to be no AY at all (or no Asari, but that's genocide as AY cannot reproduce). 

Yes, and you cannot blame the Asari's system for everything Morinth does. 

I can blame the asari system. And as I said, if they don't want to coexist and try to make eachothers life better, then screw them.

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

So now your saying secluding AY is instead racism even though you yourself claimed that seclusion is basically imprisoning a AY because they might kill someone. Interesting.

No I am saying that no bad attitude should go AY way from asari, because that would be racism. And seclusion is bad.

Seclusion is bad and killing is bad but they are both usually done for justifiable reasons even you said that killing can be justified.

Killing can be justified, seclusion can't. Killing is a direct certain act, seclusion is a blurry act because of chance.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because my point and the point of all the people arguing against you is completely unfounded by any evidence whatsoever and we are all just arguing with you because we hate freedom.

No because you think that it's ok to build happiness of the majority on unhappiness of the minority, and I don't.

You see we have this tiny little advantage that you lack.

We can see a monster for what it is.

You see what you want.

And you don't?

I see the injustice - seclusion. Everything else come out of it. If there would be no seclusion, I would look at Morinth through a different lense.

No you wouldn't.
You'd continue to worship the fething ground she mindrapemurders people on.

Why would I lie? 
I already said that I would kill Morinth without a second thought if it wasn't for seclusion.

You're power of self delusion is legendary.

[Ravensword]

I think it's completely disgusting to merely consider Morinth's choices as the injustice and not her actions of murdering probably hundreds of people. These people had nothing to do w/ Morinth's situation. Nef thought she had met the love of her life and was instead murdered just so Morinth could satisfy her addiction and become stronger.

[D.Kain]

BlueMagitek wrote...

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

There is actually a good solution, if people don't WANT to do it, then yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home. Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

There is actually a good solution, if people don't WANT to do it, then yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home. Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

Again just for clarity.
Killing her is a marvelous solution.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You're power of self delusion is legendary.

You seriously doubt my words?? I am not a lier.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You're power of self delusion is legendary.

You seriously doubt my words?? I am not a lier.

I doubt your ability to do anything logically when it comes to the monster.

[D.Kain]

Ravensword wrote...

I think it's completely disgusting to merely consider Morinth's choices as the injustice and not her actions of murdering probably hundreds of people. These people had nothing to do w/ Morinth's situation. Nef thought she had met the love of her life and was instead murdered just so Morinth could satisfy her addiction and become stronger.

Well asari should have thought of those people, when they presented Morinth with a choice. Nef was completely brainwahsed as I understood from the journal, she didn't think anything..

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

There is actually a good solution, if people don't WANT to do it, then yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home. Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

Again just for clarity.
Killing her is a marvelous solution.

No it isn't. It is only making her a victim. 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Do you enjoy being infatuated with the monster D.Kain?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

There is actually a good solution, if people don't WANT to do it, then yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home. Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

Again just for clarity.
Killing her is a marvelous solution.

No it isn't. It is only making her a victim. 

Considering all the people she's victimized I can live with that.

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

Killing can be justified, seclusion can't. Killing is a direct certain act, seclusion is a blurry act because of chance.

Then when say imprisoning a serial killer is justified if seclusion can't be justified?

[MisterJB]

D.Kain wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth killing Shepard = suicide. Morinth is not suicidel, she actually held to her life more than most other people.

No one in the ship knew that "Samara" is Morinth, even if they did no one would believe the commander would be stupid enough to mind-meld with an AY serial killer and after centuries, Morinth must be pretty good at hiding evidence.

So? Morinth will die right after she kills Shepard, there is no way for her to escape.

You completely ignored everything I said.

She took a gambe for both Shepards and her life.

A gamble? Mating with an AY is not a gamble, it's bloody suicide.

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

I'm working on it.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Do you enjoy being infatuated with the monster D.Kain?

I just feel bad for her. And feel bad for everybody she had to kill.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

There is actually a good solution, if people don't WANT to do it, then yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home. Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

Again just for clarity.
Killing her is a marvelous solution.

No it isn't. It is only making her a victim. 

Considering all the people she's victimized I can live with that.

So you are ok with killing her as a victim, but you are not ok with her killing people as victims? Genious.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Do you enjoy being infatuated with the monster D.Kain?

I just feel bad for her. And feel bad for everybody she had to kill.

She didn't have to kill anybody. She Choose to.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

So basically "Whaaah, this problem has no good solutions, I'm taking my ball and going home".  Yeah, it doesn't work like that; there isn't always a great solution for everyone involved, and the Asari have, for everyone's sake, taken what they've seen as the best solution to the problem.  And keep in mind this isn't a recent development; they've been dealing with AY for as long as they've had mythology.

There is actually a good solution, if people don't WANT to do it, then yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home. Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

Again just for clarity.
Killing her is a marvelous solution.

No it isn't. It is only making her a victim. 

Considering all the people she's victimized I can live with that.

So you are ok with killing her as a victim, but you are not ok with her killing people as victims? Genious.

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.

[D.Kain]

MisterJB wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
Morinth killing Shepard = suicide. Morinth is not suicidel, she actually held to her life more than most other people.

No one in the ship knew that "Samara" is Morinth, even if they did no one would believe the commander would be stupid enough to mind-meld with an AY serial killer and after centuries, Morinth must be pretty good at hiding evidence.

So? Morinth will die right after she kills Shepard, there is no way for her to escape.

You completely ignored everything I said.

She took a gambe for both Shepards and her life.

A gamble? Mating with an AY is not a gamble, it's bloody suicide.

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Morinth isn't my direct problem, she is one of my best squadmates. If other people have a problem with her then PLEASE fix the problem.

I'm working on it.

What did you want to say.

Morinth provided reasons as to why both of you could survive. It was a gamble.

That's not how you fix the problem. 
Here's a good start:

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Do you enjoy being infatuated with the monster D.Kain?

I just feel bad for her. And feel bad for everybody she had to kill.

She didn't have to kill anybody. She Choose to.

She didn't have to live, she choice to. You say she should have died, just because she was born an AY.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.

You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!