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#3326
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Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.

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Can we all stop arguing? We're not winning any points here.

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#3328
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Ravensword wrote...

Can we all stop arguing? We're not winning any points here.


That's the entire point of internet arguments.

No one wins.

Some people get angry.

The rest laugh.

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This sucks.

#3330
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Ravensword wrote...

This sucks.

Then stop paying attention to it.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

This sucks.

Then stop paying attention to it.


It's difficult to.

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Ravensword wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

This sucks.

Then stop paying attention to it.


It's difficult to.

Then sit back and enjoy the stupidity.

It's kind of a BSN staple.

#3333
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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.


I wonder how long can a person SHOW pitty or remorse, when her all life is a struggle and death, 50 years, 100? 
Then the emotional safety trigger kinda goes in, and the person is used to it.

I am not going to nullify all her effort to survive.

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D.Kain wrote...

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Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.


Then she's completely responsible for every rapemurder she has committed, and killing her is merciful when compared to enacting anything like justice. 

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.


Then she's completely responsible for every rapemurder she has committed, and killing her is merciful when compared to enacting anything like justice. 

Quite so.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Can we all stop arguing? We're not winning any points here.


That's the entire point of internet arguments.

No one wins.

Some people get angry.

The rest laugh.


Nobody is even supposed to win, it's not a competition. 

Thought sometimes people's minds do change based on good arguments, me included.

This is just not the case, because in order for people to come to an agreed conclusion, they have to share basic views on human rights. 

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.


Then she's completely responsible for every rapemurder she has committed, and killing her is merciful when compared to enacting anything like justice. 


She is responsible and she is not. She is responsible but the blame is on the asari, and she is not the one who should be killed, Samara is one of those that should be killed.

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Cut the crap D.Kain you think it's okay to rapemurder if life has been bad to you.

Oh and all Morinth's victims were just sacrifices for the Greater goo---Morinth.

Don't try to take the moral high ground because you can't.

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D.Kain wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Morinth is like a rabid animal. She may not be fully in control of her actions, and her rabidness may have been caused by cruel masters, but she needs to be put down to protect innocents.


Morinth is in full control. She is completely mentaly stable.


Then she's completely responsible for every rapemurder she has committed, and killing her is merciful when compared to enacting anything like justice. 


She is responsible and she is not. She is responsible but the blame is on the asari, and she is not the one who should be killed, Samara is one of those that should be killed.

Can you make me a tinfoil hat like the one you wear?
Because it looks snug.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Cut the crap D.Kain you think it's okay to rapemurder if life has been bad to you.

Oh and all Morinth's victims were just sacrifices for the Greater goo---Morinth.

Don't try to take the moral high ground because you can't.


Not if life's been bad to you, and it is not ok. But it is sometimes forgivable, if it was nescecery to survive. We have a lot of real examples. You said yourself that you wouldn't kill a person that killed another person while a gun was pointed at his head.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.


I wonder how long can a person SHOW pitty or remorse, when her all life is a struggle and death, 50 years, 100? 
Then the emotional safety trigger kinda goes in, and the person is used to it.

I am not going to nullify all her effort to survive.


Bah, she's even worse than the sailor who pushes his fellow under the water in his effort to keep from drowning. 

#3342
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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Cut the crap D.Kain you think it's okay to rapemurder if life has been bad to you.

Oh and all Morinth's victims were just sacrifices for the Greater goo---Morinth.

Don't try to take the moral high ground because you can't.


Not if life's been bad to you, and it is not ok. But it is sometimes forgivable, if it was nescecery to survive. We have a lot of real examples. You said yourself that you wouldn't kill a person that killed another person while a gun was pointed at his head.


That person didn't go on to mindrapemurder for four hundred years now did they?

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.


I wonder how long can a person SHOW pitty or remorse, when her all life is a struggle and death, 50 years, 100? 
Then the emotional safety trigger kinda goes in, and the person is used to it.

I am not going to nullify all her effort to survive.


Bah, she's even worse than the sailor who pushes his fellow under the water in his effort to keep from drowning. 


Except she doesn't even have fellows..

#3344
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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.


I wonder how long can a person SHOW pitty or remorse, when her all life is a struggle and death, 50 years, 100? 
Then the emotional safety trigger kinda goes in, and the person is used to it.

I am not going to nullify all her effort to survive.


Bah, she's even worse than the sailor who pushes his fellow under the water in his effort to keep from drowning. 

At least that's an actual survival attempt.

What she's doing can only be classified as a survival attempt if you have absolutely no idea of what "Survival attempt" entails.

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That's because she kills her fellows.

We've been over this.

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D.Kain wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.


I wonder how long can a person SHOW pitty or remorse, when her all life is a struggle and death, 50 years, 100? 
Then the emotional safety trigger kinda goes in, and the person is used to it.

I am not going to nullify all her effort to survive.


Bah, she's even worse than the sailor who pushes his fellow under the water in his effort to keep from drowning. 


Except she doesn't even have fellows..

She does however rapemurder innocents.

That blood is on her hands and her hands alone.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Cut the crap D.Kain you think it's okay to rapemurder if life has been bad to you.

Oh and all Morinth's victims were just sacrifices for the Greater goo---Morinth.

Don't try to take the moral high ground because you can't.


Not if life's been bad to you, and it is not ok. But it is sometimes forgivable, if it was nescecery to survive. We have a lot of real examples. You said yourself that you wouldn't kill a person that killed another person while a gun was pointed at his head.


That person didn't go on to mindrapemurder for four hundred years now did they?


So basically morality is all about numbers to you right? 

What majority thinks is right to do is right, even if it hurts somebody.

Right or wrong, also depends on exactly how many, and in what period of time the person killed, not the act itself.

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That's because she kills her fellows.

We've been over this.


She doesn't have fellows besides my Shepard. Everybody else is brainwashed.

#3349
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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yes because I am stopping a monster from causing further harm.
She was ending innocent lives with no pity or remorse.


You don't know if she had pitty or remorse. 
And she was doing it to survive!!!

No she really wasn't.
But you refuse to see that.

Oh well. No saving some people, Like Morinth.


I wonder how long can a person SHOW pitty or remorse, when her all life is a struggle and death, 50 years, 100? 
Then the emotional safety trigger kinda goes in, and the person is used to it.

I am not going to nullify all her effort to survive.


Bah, she's even worse than the sailor who pushes his fellow under the water in his effort to keep from drowning. 

At least that's an actual survival attempt.

What she's doing can only be classified as a survival attempt if you have absolutely no idea of what "Survival attempt" entails.


What she is doing is exactly a survival attempt.

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Not everyone else is brain washed and she does attempt to kill Shepard (twice).

She chose the situation she's in, don't try and deny it.