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Don't forget, according to Kain, Nef was an addict and a **** who deserved what she got.


That is just my opinion, and it doesn't mean that all Morinth's victims were like that.

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How many of her victims knew that she was an AY?

How many knew that she was hunted?

Probably not that many.

She manipulated Nef, seduced her and mindraped her to death.

Even you cannot possibly deny that.


I don't deny her killing Nef. What does that have to do with this argument? 

She brainwashed the poor girl and then mindraped her to death.
It's wrong.

But you don't care because your favorite pet monster got to feed.

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...because she doesn't let anyone in. Hence it being entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

Oh BS. We don't know that Shepard wouldn't survive in a Collector Capsule either, but we can make a reasonable assumption on it (hint: he won't). And where do you get that Morinth is smart? She's a druggie, a mind meld addict and makes bad decisions all the time.

Because she did that to them, yes. So she forces people to care for her and then kills them. She's a monster.

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You do realize that brainwashing people so that they will have mindsex with you is rape right?

And she kills with her mindsex.

So she really is a serial-rapist/murderer.


She did it for survival! 

It wouldn't happen in the first place if asari didn't hunt her. 

Why can't you get it?

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You do realize that brainwashing people so that they will have mindsex with you is rape right?

And she kills with her mindsex.

So she really is a serial-rapist/murderer.


She did it for survival! 

It wouldn't happen in the first place if asari didn't hunt her. 

Why can't you get it?

Rape is never justified under any circumstances whatsoever.

She's a monster because she's been raping for centuries.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She brainwashed the poor girl and then mindraped her to death.
It's wrong.

But you don't care because your favorite pet monster got to feed.


No I care. It is bad, but the justicars are to blame. I am sad for Morinth's victims, but at the same time I am happy that Morinth survived.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She brainwashed the poor girl and then mindraped her to death.
It's wrong.

But you don't care because your favorite pet monster got to feed.


No I care. It is bad, but the justicars are to blame. I am sad for Morinth's victims, but at the same time I am happy that Morinth survived.

So you're a monster like her.

Good to know.

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...because she doesn't let anyone in. Hence it being entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

Oh BS. We don't know that Shepard wouldn't survive in a Collector Capsule either, but we can make a reasonable assumption on it (hint: he won't). And where do you get that Morinth is smart? She's a druggie, a mind meld addict and makes bad decisions all the time.

Because she did that to them, yes. So she forces people to care for her and then kills them. She's a monster.


How do you know? 

Morinth is smart because if she wasn't she would already be caught, or dead.

She does it for survival.

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D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

...because she doesn't let anyone in. Hence it being entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

Oh BS. We don't know that Shepard wouldn't survive in a Collector Capsule either, but we can make a reasonable assumption on it (hint: he won't). And where do you get that Morinth is smart? She's a druggie, a mind meld addict and makes bad decisions all the time.

Because she did that to them, yes. So she forces people to care for her and then kills them. She's a monster.


How do you know? 

Morinth is smart because if she wasn't she would already be caught, or dead.

She does it for survival.

That's bull and even if it were true it wouldn't justify her mindrapes.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You do realize that brainwashing people so that they will have mindsex with you is rape right?

And she kills with her mindsex.

So she really is a serial-rapist/murderer.


She did it for survival! 

It wouldn't happen in the first place if asari didn't hunt her. 

Why can't you get it?

Rape is never justified under any circumstances whatsoever.

She's a monster because she's been raping for centuries.


So if you are put in a room with a girl and told to rape that girl or you will be killed, you would die?

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You do realize that brainwashing people so that they will have mindsex with you is rape right?

And she kills with her mindsex.

So she really is a serial-rapist/murderer.


She did it for survival! 

It wouldn't happen in the first place if asari didn't hunt her. 

Why can't you get it?

Rape is never justified under any circumstances whatsoever.

She's a monster because she's been raping for centuries.


So if you are put in a room with a girl and told to rape that girl or you will be killed, you would die?

Yes I would.
Because unlike Morinth I'm not a monster.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

...because she doesn't let anyone in. Hence it being entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

Oh BS. We don't know that Shepard wouldn't survive in a Collector Capsule either, but we can make a reasonable assumption on it (hint: he won't). And where do you get that Morinth is smart? She's a druggie, a mind meld addict and makes bad decisions all the time.

Because she did that to them, yes. So she forces people to care for her and then kills them. She's a monster.


How do you know? 

Morinth is smart because if she wasn't she would already be caught, or dead.

She does it for survival.

That's bull and even if it were true it wouldn't justify her mindrapes.


Survival is not justified, everybody should just die when they are being hunted for no good reason. ok.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She brainwashed the poor girl and then mindraped her to death.
It's wrong.

But you don't care because your favorite pet monster got to feed.


No I care. It is bad, but the justicars are to blame. I am sad for Morinth's victims, but at the same time I am happy that Morinth survived.


How many murders does it take because the Justicars or Asari society are no longer to blame? How many murders until Morinth's survival is not as important as others? If Morinth murdered a million people (lol, try saying that eight times fast) would you still say that it was ok because her survival was paramount? How about two million? Seven million?

Large numbers,  I know, and I know we don't know exactly how many people she's killed, but we can guess it was a lot. How many is too many for you, D.Kain?

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

...because she doesn't let anyone in. Hence it being entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

Oh BS. We don't know that Shepard wouldn't survive in a Collector Capsule either, but we can make a reasonable assumption on it (hint: he won't). And where do you get that Morinth is smart? She's a druggie, a mind meld addict and makes bad decisions all the time.

Because she did that to them, yes. So she forces people to care for her and then kills them. She's a monster.


How do you know? 

Morinth is smart because if she wasn't she would already be caught, or dead.

She does it for survival.

That's bull and even if it were true it wouldn't justify her mindrapes.


Survival is not justified, everybody should just die when they are being hunted for no good reason. ok.

You're a monster.
Because you are trying to justify mindrape.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

...because she doesn't let anyone in. Hence it being entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

Oh BS. We don't know that Shepard wouldn't survive in a Collector Capsule either, but we can make a reasonable assumption on it (hint: he won't). And where do you get that Morinth is smart? She's a druggie, a mind meld addict and makes bad decisions all the time.

Because she did that to them, yes. So she forces people to care for her and then kills them. She's a monster.


How do you know? 

Morinth is smart because if she wasn't she would already be caught, or dead.

She does it for survival.

That's bull and even if it were true it wouldn't justify her mindrapes.


Survival is not justified, everybody should just die when they are being hunted for no good reason. ok.

You're a monster.
Because you are trying to justify mindrape.


YOU are a monster. You are trying to justify Morinth's seclusion or death for no good reason.

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...well, if you hypnotize and them murder every single person who might possibly care about you, it's more than a fair assumption that it's entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

If she was smart, she would have realized that : no bodies = no trail for justicars. But hey, if we want to make up things, that's cool too.

No, if she really wanted to amass power quickly she wouldn't "hunt"; prostitutes are cheap considering she wouldn't really be paying; it's easy for an attractive Asari to find partners, especially in a place like Omega. So why does she go to the trouble of having her partner fall in love with her, give her gifts? Because she's a manipulator who enjoys it. She's a monster.

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So if you are put in a room with a girl and told to rape that girl or you will be killed, you would die?

Yes I would.
Because unlike Morinth I'm not a monster.


You ignored this point. Is it because it doesn't fit with your twisted world view?

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Asenza wrote...

How many murders does it take because the Justicars or Asari society are no longer to blame? How many murders until Morinth's survival is not as important as others? If Morinth murdered a million people (lol, try saying that eight times fast) would you still say that it was ok because her survival was paramount? How about two million? Seven million?

Large numbers,  I know, and I know we don't know exactly how many people she's killed, but we can guess it was a lot. How many is too many for you, D.Kain?


Morinth's survival is as important as others. But Morinth is also a victim. Me killing Morinth is the same as Morinth killing one of her victims. I can only try to stop her by talking to her, until asari stop their AY seclusion. 
By the time Morinth kills so many I would alredy destroy the asari goverment and replace it with a new one, so it would finally stop!

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...well, if you hypnotize and them murder every single person who might possibly care about you, it's more than a fair assumption that it's entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

If she was smart, she would have realized that : no bodies = no trail for justicars. But hey, if we want to make up things, that's cool too.

No, if she really wanted to amass power quickly she wouldn't "hunt"; prostitutes are cheap considering she wouldn't really be paying; it's easy for an attractive Asari to find partners, especially in a place like Omega. So why does she go to the trouble of having her partner fall in love with her, give her gifts? Because she's a manipulator who enjoys it. She's a monster.


It's all assumptions, we don't know enough. 

No bodies is =/= no trail for justicars. She was just on Omega at the time. 

Perhaps she needs people with advanced nervous system for a better power boost. Again we don't know how that works.

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D.Kain wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

...well, if you hypnotize and them murder every single person who might possibly care about you, it's more than a fair assumption that it's entirely her fault that she doesn't have friends.

If she was smart, she would have realized that : no bodies = no trail for justicars. But hey, if we want to make up things, that's cool too.

No, if she really wanted to amass power quickly she wouldn't "hunt"; prostitutes are cheap considering she wouldn't really be paying; it's easy for an attractive Asari to find partners, especially in a place like Omega. So why does she go to the trouble of having her partner fall in love with her, give her gifts? Because she's a manipulator who enjoys it. She's a monster.


It's all assumptions, we don't know enough. 

No bodies is =/= no trail for justicars. She was just on Omega at the time. 

Perhaps she needs people with advanced nervous system for a better power boost. Again we don't know how that works.

She still has no fething right to do that to people.

That's the part you're too infatuated with her to understand or even acknowledge.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

So if you are put in a room with a girl and told to rape that girl or you will be killed, you would die?

Yes I would.
Because unlike Morinth I'm not a monster.


You ignored this point. Is it because it doesn't fit with your twisted world view?


No I ignored the post because there are too many in a small period of time.

Kudos to you if you think that your life is worth less than the life of other people, not everybody thinks like that. 

But also think that after raping a girl and staying alive, you could find those that made you do it and deal with them so that more people don't find themselves in the same situation as you.

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D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

How many murders does it take because the Justicars or Asari society are no longer to blame? How many murders until Morinth's survival is not as important as others? If Morinth murdered a million people (lol, try saying that eight times fast) would you still say that it was ok because her survival was paramount? How about two million? Seven million?

Large numbers,  I know, and I know we don't know exactly how many people she's killed, but we can guess it was a lot. How many is too many for you, D.Kain?


Morinth's survival is as important as others. But Morinth is also a victim. Me killing Morinth is the same as Morinth killing one of her victims. I can only try to stop her by talking to her, until asari stop their AY seclusion. 
By the time Morinth kills so many I would alredy destroy the asari goverment and replace it with a new one, so it would finally stop!


HOW important? HOW many is too many murders? Answer the question. Is Morinth's survival more important than  the survival of seven hundred people? Two thousand people? Seven thousand?

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She still has no fething right to do that to people.

That's the part you're too infatuated with her to understand or even acknowledge.


She is not doing the right thing, but killing her is also doing a wrong thing! 

I want to fix it without making another victim out of her.

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He's insane, and we can't do anything to help him.

He doesn't even recognize that even the Morinth fans are alienated by his delusions.

You would think that when people disagree with each other on a topic, but will unite to point out how messed up his thought process is, he might take a hint.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She still has no fething right to do that to people.

That's the part you're too infatuated with her to understand or even acknowledge.


She is not doing the right thing, but killing her is also doing a wrong thing! 

I want to fix it without making another victim out of her.

She deserves to be punished for all the innocents she's killed.

She stopped being a victim the second she started mindraping.