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[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

How many murders does it take because the Justicars or Asari society are no longer to blame? How many murders until Morinth's survival is not as important as others? If Morinth murdered a million people (lol, try saying that eight times fast) would you still say that it was ok because her survival was paramount? How about two million? Seven million?

Large numbers,  I know, and I know we don't know exactly how many people she's killed, but we can guess it was a lot. How many is too many for you, D.Kain?

Morinth's survival is as important as others. But Morinth is also a victim. Me killing Morinth is the same as Morinth killing one of her victims. I can only try to stop her by talking to her, until asari stop their AY seclusion. 
By the time Morinth kills so many I would alredy destroy the asari goverment and replace it with a new one, so it would finally stop!

HOW important? HOW many is too many murders? Answer the question. Is Morinth's survival more important than  the survival of seven hundred people? Two thousand people? Seven thousand?

The same importance! Numbers don't matter. My sense of morallity doen't change depending on numbers, but rather actions. After meeting Shepard and after killing Samara she should stop, how many she killed before, doesn't matter, they are already gone, killing her won't fix anything.

[BlueMagitek]

D.Kain wrote...

Morinth's survival is as important as others. But Morinth is also a victim. Me killing Morinth is the same as Morinth killing one of her victims. I can only try to stop her by talking to her, until asari stop their AY seclusion. 
By the time Morinth kills so many I would alredy destroy the asari goverment and replace it with a new one, so it would finally stop!

It doesn't matter if Morinth is a victim.  An assault victim doesn't have the right to go around killing whoever he pleases.  A victim of a burglary doesn't have the right to steal from other people.  Being a victim does not give Morinth the right to kill as she pleases.  Morinth is worth less than her victims because she's a horrible creature that creates victims on a regular basis.  

Everytime I think you're done, you just jump farther down a well of delusions.

D.Kain wrote...

It's all assumptions, we don't know enough. 

No bodies is =/= no trail for justicars. She was just on Omega at the time. 

Perhaps she needs people with advanced nervous system for a better power boost. Again we don't know how that works.

...No, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we have more than enough information, you just refuse to look at it as it is because your AY fantasies might be crushed when you realize that Morinth is a monster.

Really?  How would Samara find Morinth without bodies?  We wouldn't have found her if she hadn't killed Nef.  Hell, all Morinth had to do was get out of Asari space sooner; Justicars travelling outside of Asari space are rare and I doubt a non Asari government would put up with their acting outside of the law.  So no, Morinth isn't smart.  She's a druggie (she admits as much), a meld addict (we have first hand evidence, twice), and a murderer (first hand evidence, Morinth's claims, Samara's claims).

Now you're pulling up fanfiction again, oh my oh me.  And do you know what, it doesn't matter.  Morinth is a monster and she chose to become that way.  The Asari are not to blame.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She still has no fething right to do that to people.

That's the part you're too infatuated with her to understand or even acknowledge.

She is not doing the right thing, but killing her is also doing a wrong thing! 

I want to fix it without making another victim out of her.

She deserves to be punished for all the innocents she's killed.

She stopped being a victim the second she started mindraping.

No she doesn't, and no she didn't.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

SandTrout wrote...

He's insane, and we can't do anything to help him.

He doesn't even recognize that even the Morinth fans are alienated by his delusions.

You would think that when people disagree with each other on a topic, but will unite to point out how messed up his thought process is, he might take a hint.

D.Kain: BUT IT'S WRAUNG!!!!

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

She still has no fething right to do that to people.

That's the part you're too infatuated with her to understand or even acknowledge.

She is not doing the right thing, but killing her is also doing a wrong thing! 

I want to fix it without making another victim out of her.

She deserves to be punished for all the innocents she's killed.

She stopped being a victim the second she started mindraping.

No she doesn't, and no she didn't.

You don't think she deserves any punishment for all the people she's killed?

You actually think she can be absolved of ALL blame?

You disgust me.

[D.Kain]

BlueMagitek wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Morinth's survival is as important as others. But Morinth is also a victim. Me killing Morinth is the same as Morinth killing one of her victims. I can only try to stop her by talking to her, until asari stop their AY seclusion. 
By the time Morinth kills so many I would alredy destroy the asari goverment and replace it with a new one, so it would finally stop!

It doesn't matter if Morinth is a victim.  An assault victim doesn't have the right to go around killing whoever he pleases.  A victim of a burglary doesn't have the right to steal from other people.  Being a victim does not give Morinth the right to kill as she pleases.  Morinth is worth less than her victims because she's a horrible creature that creates victims on a regular basis.  

Everytime I think you're done, you just jump farther down a well of delusions.

D.Kain wrote...

It's all assumptions, we don't know enough. 

No bodies is =/= no trail for justicars. She was just on Omega at the time. 

Perhaps she needs people with advanced nervous system for a better power boost. Again we don't know how that works.

...No, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we have more than enough information, you just refuse to look at it as it is because your AY fantasies might be crushed when you realize that Morinth is a monster.

Really?  How would Samara find Morinth without bodies?  We wouldn't have found her if she hadn't killed Nef.  Hell, all Morinth had to do was get out of Asari space sooner; Justicars travelling outside of Asari space are rare and I doubt a non Asari government would put up with their acting outside of the law.  So no, Morinth isn't smart.  She's a druggie (she admits as much), a meld addict (we have first hand evidence, twice), and a murderer (first hand evidence, Morinth's claims, Samara's claims).

Now you're pulling up fanfiction again, oh my oh me.  And do you know what, it doesn't matter.  Morinth is a monster and she chose to become that way.  The Asari are not to blame.

It does matter that Morinth is a victim. Your examples are different.

If there was enough information, we wouldn't have this disscution. And frankly, no matter how interesting this conversation is, I would rather it was that black and white, so I could kill Morinth, be done with it, and not be called mentally ill monster for 100 pages. But it's not like that.

There are many ways to find Morinth. And why should she stay away from asari space? Why does she have less rights to be in her own species space? Because asari wanted to kill her for no good reason? She is not a druggie, she is in full control, she is calm and rational.

How the f*ck are asari not to blame when seclusion is monsterous and messed up? 

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You don't think she deserves any punishment for all the people she's killed?

You actually think she can be absolved of ALL blame?

You disgust me.

Asari are to blame and they should be punished. Funny enough, they probably got punished a bit by Morinth's actions already. Now we just need to reveal who killed Nef to the galactic community, and who are AY, so that asari get the full blame.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Actually people will blame Morinth for.....you know killing her.

People tend to consider centuries of mindrapemurder to be much much much much worse than a policy of imprisonment.

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Actually people will blame Morinth for.....you know killing her.

People tend to consider centuries of mindrapemurder to be much much much much worse than a policy of imprisonment.

They will do what I say, and listen to me. I am Shepard the galactic savior. 

[SandTrout]

D.Kain wrote...

Asari are to blame and they should be punished. Funny enough, they probably got punished a bit by Morinth's actions already. Now we just need to reveal who killed Nef to the galactic community, and who are AY, so that asari get the full blame.

More proof of your insanity if you think that people will blame the Asari for attempting to preemptively prevent hundreds of murders. You are completely detatched from reality.

People will be slightly irritated that the Asari hid the existence of the AY because no one knew that you could die from screwing an asari. They would be very sympathetic, though, to their ability to premptively prevent the AY from getting out of hand, with the one exception proving the rightness of their actions.

No sane person shares your view on this. Not a single one.

[D.Kain]

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Asari are to blame and they should be punished. Funny enough, they probably got punished a bit by Morinth's actions already. Now we just need to reveal who killed Nef to the galactic community, and who are AY, so that asari get the full blame.

More proof of your insanity if you think that people will blame the Asari for attempting to preemptively prevent hundreds of murders. You are completely detatched from reality.

People will be slightly irritated that the Asari hid the existence of the AY because no one knew that you could die from screwing an asari. They would be very sympathetic, though, to their ability to premptively prevent the AY from getting out of hand, with the one exception proving the rightness of their actions.

No sane person shares your view on this. Not a single one.

Well then I guess I should welcome the reapers, and call people worthless...

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Asari are to blame and they should be punished. Funny enough, they probably got punished a bit by Morinth's actions already. Now we just need to reveal who killed Nef to the galactic community, and who are AY, so that asari get the full blame.

More proof of your insanity if you think that people will blame the Asari for attempting to preemptively prevent hundreds of murders. You are completely detatched from reality.

People will be slightly irritated that the Asari hid the existence of the AY because no one knew that you could die from screwing an asari. They would be very sympathetic, though, to their ability to premptively prevent the AY from getting out of hand, with the one exception proving the rightness of their actions.

No sane person shares your view on this. Not a single one.

I've seen Chaos cultists make more sense.

[BlueMagitek]

D.Kain wrote...

It does matter that Morinth is a victim. Your examples are different.

If there was enough information, we wouldn't have this disscution. And frankly, no matter how interesting this conversation is, I would rather it was that black and white, so I could kill Morinth, be done with it, and not be called mentally ill monster for 100 pages. But it's not like that.

There are many ways to find Morinth. And why should she stay away from asari space? Why does she have less rights to be in her own species space? Because asari wanted to kill her for no good reason? She is not a druggie, she is in full control, she is calm and rational.

How the f*ck are asari not to blame when seclusion is monsterous and messed up?

How?  How is Morinth's situtation so much more different than someone who was hurt and feels like he needs to take it out on others?  Or someone who has something taken from them and wants it back?  Actually you're right, it is different, Morinth's situation is weaker than my examples.  Much less justified (not that it was at all).

Okay, we'll try something else.  Why do you think Morinth isn't a monster?  And no, you can't lay all the blame on the Asari government.  Well?

There are many ways?  Such as?  Why would she stay away from Asari space?  Well, if she's running from the law, then it's typical to get out of the country (or space borders, as it is).  She has less rights to be in her own species space because she won't play by their rules (as she's a fugitive).  She is a druggie, she ****ing tells you so, she *is* addicted to mind melding ("Oh I so need this"), and she's still a murderer. 

Secluded with her sisters*.  Not exactly solitary confinement.  But let's say seclusion is messed up. Do you know what's more messed up?  Going on a killing spree for centuries and making victims out of innocent people. 

While we're at it, by your own logic, the Asari cannot be to blame as there is another link in the chain: the AY.  If the AY hadn't been going around murdering people and starting cults, the Asari would not have been required to lock up all new AY to prevent such a thing.  So it's really the AY's fault.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Actually people will blame Morinth for.....you know killing her.

People tend to consider centuries of mindrapemurder to be much much much much worse than a policy of imprisonment.

They will do what I say, and listen to me. I am Shepard the galactic savior. 

Sound more like Shepard the irrational ponce.

[SandTrout]

D.Kain wrote...

Well then I guess I should welcome the reapers, and call people worthless...

You do that.

[BlueMagitek]

Alright, I'm out for the morning. Take care.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Well then I guess I should welcome the reapers, and call people worthless...

You do that.

His version of the galaxy might acutally be better off as goo.

[SandTrout]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Well then I guess I should welcome the reapers, and call people worthless...

You do that.

His version of the galaxy might acutally be better off as goo.

To be completely fair, his version of the galaxy never would have made it out of the stone ages.

[D.Kain]

 I'm tired of arguing for today too...

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Well then I guess I should welcome the reapers, and call people worthless...

You do that.

His version of the galaxy might acutally be better off as goo.

To be completely fair, his version of the galaxy never would have made it out of the stone ages.

True enough.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

 I'm tired of arguing for today too...

You don't argue.
You bleat your love of the monster to all who will bear to look at it.

[PrinceLionheart]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

 I'm tired of arguing for today too...

You don't argue.
You bleat your love of the monster to all who will bear to look at it.

Be truthful, if a dog had rabies and went around killing kids in your neighborhood, you wouldn't call animal control, because hey, it ain't the dogs fault.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

 I'm tired of arguing for today too...

You don't argue.
You bleat your love of the monster to all who will bear to look at it.

Be truthful, if a dog had rabies and went around killing kids in your neighborhood, you wouldn't call animal control, because hey, it ain't the dogs fault.

D.Kain would give the dog cuddles and tell it it's special.

[Asenza]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

 I'm tired of arguing for today too...

You don't argue.
You bleat your love of the monster to all who will bear to look at it.

Be truthful, if a dog had rabies and went around killing kids in your neighborhood, you wouldn't call animal control, because hey, it ain't the dogs fault.

D.Kain would give the dog cuddles and tell it it's special.

And then D.Kain would let it kill hundreds of kids more, because that one dog's life is  far more important than all the others.

[D.Kain]

Asenza wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

 I'm tired of arguing for today too...

You don't argue.
You bleat your love of the monster to all who will bear to look at it.

Be truthful, if a dog had rabies and went around killing kids in your neighborhood, you wouldn't call animal control, because hey, it ain't the dogs fault.

D.Kain would give the dog cuddles and tell it it's special.

And then D.Kain would let it kill hundreds of kids more, because that one dog's life is  far more important than all the others.

I thought I was done for today, but this is just unbelievable. Proves just how much you don't even listen to what I say, and instead hear whaever you dream up...