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[AnAccountWithNoName]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

So if you are put in a room with a girl and told to rape that girl or you will be killed, you would die?

Yes I would.
Because unlike Morinth I'm not a monster.


You ignored this point. Is it because it doesn't fit with your twisted world view?

No I ignored the post because there are too many in a small period of time.

Kudos to you if you think that your life is worth less than the life of other people, not everybody thinks like that. 

But also think that after raping a girl and staying alive, you could find those that made you do it and deal with them so that more people don't find themselves in the same situation as you.

Raping is ALWAYS wrong.....NEVER justified.  Just because the Monster had a sad/tragic childhood, does NOT justify mindrape/murder.

If you think it does then you are a Monster D. Kain.

Modifié par AnAccountWithNoName, 07 octobre 2011 - 05:29 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

He's gone Account.

I just can't process his....thought process.

[AnAccountWithNoName]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

He's gone Account.

I just can't process his....thought process.

It's almost like he is detached from humanity, and therefore society.  He doesn't seem to know how the real world works.  He lives in a fantasy.

The idea of not blaming Morinth would NEVER fly in the real world.

[CERBERUSDEMAN]

I think D.Kain has what I would call Harley Quinn syndrome.

Some things I would want to point out also there is no evidence that Morinth was abused, had a bad childhood, or anything like that in fact I'm pretty sure it's stated that Samara was caring to her daughters and that they loved her.

AY are peacefully secluded for the public safety and yes any sane not evil person would choose seclusion if they were basically told 'we need keep you away from others because you'll have the urge to kill people and the more you do it the more you will want to'.

I agree with the others here if see just ran then yes I would see Samara trying to kill here as wrong but she didn't she chose to run and murder people and for your whole she needed to do it to survive defense is total crap there are other ways for her to get stronger and speculation but from how strong she was in the game she seems like she would have been a powerful biotic from a young age.

Morinth is addicted to melding she will continue to do killing who knows how many more innocents and their blood would be on Shepard's hands and the only reason she isn't doing that now is because she knows Shepard would pull out a gun and blow her brains out.

[Killjoy Cutter]

D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Asenza wrote...

How many murders does it take because the Justicars or Asari society are no longer to blame? How many murders until Morinth's survival is not as important as others? If Morinth murdered a million people (lol, try saying that eight times fast) would you still say that it was ok because her survival was paramount? How about two million? Seven million?

Large numbers,  I know, and I know we don't know exactly how many people she's killed, but we can guess it was a lot. How many is too many for you, D.Kain?

Morinth's survival is as important as others. But Morinth is also a victim. Me killing Morinth is the same as Morinth killing one of her victims. I can only try to stop her by talking to her, until asari stop their AY seclusion. 
By the time Morinth kills so many I would alredy destroy the asari goverment and replace it with a new one, so it would finally stop!

HOW important? HOW many is too many murders? Answer the question. Is Morinth's survival more important than  the survival of seven hundred people? Two thousand people? Seven thousand?

The same importance! Numbers don't matter. My sense of morallity doen't change depending on numbers, but rather actions. After meeting Shepard and after killing Samara she should stop, how many she killed before, doesn't matter, they are already gone, killing her won't fix anything.

IF we go with your assertion that the numbers don't matter, and it's just the actions, THEN the rapemurder of Nef and the attempt to rapemurder Shepard are enough to utterly condemn Morinth. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You do realize that brainwashing people so that they will have mindsex with you is rape right?

And she kills with her mindsex.

So she really is a serial-rapist/murderer.

She did it for survival! 

It wouldn't happen in the first place if asari didn't hunt her. 

Why can't you get it?

We "don't get it" because it's a load of crap.  She does it because she loves to do it, it has nothing to do with survival.  The whole thing about "doing it for survival" is based on your own poor interpretation of the presented facts, on your own imagination, and on your desire to see a tragic sympathetic figure, where there is actually nothing but a pathetic monster. 

And even if it were for survival, IT DOESN'T MATTER.  Not only is Morinth no more important or worthwhile or special than any of the random uninvolved strangers she has rapemurdered, she becomes LESS deserving of her continued existence every time she snuffs out a Nef. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You do realize that brainwashing people so that they will have mindsex with you is rape right?

And she kills with her mindsex.

So she really is a serial-rapist/murderer.

She did it for survival! 

It wouldn't happen in the first place if asari didn't hunt her. 

Why can't you get it?

Rape is never justified under any circumstances whatsoever.

She's a monster because she's been raping for centuries.

So if you are put in a room with a girl and told to rape that girl or you will be killed, you would die?

I would fight the people who came to kill me, but in the end, yes, if it came to it, I would die. 

I would die before raping the girl. 

How can you not understand that? 

[Killjoy Cutter]

D.Kain wrote...

Survival is not justified, everybody should just die when they are being hunted for no good reason. ok.

Survival doesn't need justification. 

What you do to survive does.  And what Morinth has done and would continue to do "to survive"  is not justified. 

(And no, she does not do it to survive, despite what you think.  She does it for the pleasure it gives her.  Just before she tries to do it to Shepard in her apartment, she says "I need this!" in a tone that makes it clear she wants to do it, she loves doing it, and she gets a huge amount of pleasure from doing it.  She says it like someone would say it right before having sex or jabbing heroin into their vein.)

[Chris Priestly]

Now well off topic, and closed.


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