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[AnAccountWithNoName]

D.Kain wrote...

who would know wrote...



imo

I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore. But that is an awesome gif! I can't watch it enough times. lol
Ok I'm gone, I'm gone.. Don't post replies to me. Saved and thank you ''who would know''.

How is that awesome?  Why is it cool to see the Monster kill someone?  Why do you even care/like the Monster?

Maybe you have caught that "sympthy for the devil" cold.  I hope it goes away soon.......



Besides im sure if you saw a video of a monster in real life slowly walking up to someone to butcher said someone, you would not think that is awesome.

[SandTrout]

dreman9999 wrote...

1. I did state etc..  You made a choice based on you condition, it doesn't mean you going tostay with out sex for ever.... Not the same case a Mornith.

Correct that I am not planning to abstain forever, but I can abstain indefinitely, if needed. Of course, my situation doesn't call for permanant abstinance, even if I am capable of it. If I killed every partner I had, I would abstain permanently.

2.And that is neglect. As I said she still is a horrible person for it.

So stop arguing that she isn't a monster, because that's pretty much the deffinition of a monster we're using.

4. I did say intimacy in general. I ment all forms of intimacy...this means non sexual friend ships as well. The problem with Morniths case is that she can't even have sex without killing anyone.It just means if she does not want to kill any one with sex, then she can't have sex...ever. Any normal person can live for some time with out sex...Even Mornith can live some time with out sex.

Normal people can live indefinitely w/o sex.

Question is, can a person live their entire live easilly with out having sex once they are sexually matured?

Yes.

That is a very hard thing to do and very difficult thing to do....And an asari live for up to 1000 years....... That's a long time with out sex. The next problem is the factthat she can be attacted to any one no matter the sex or race. Being close to a friend that you can be attacted to can be difficult if staving for intimacy of sex. Which is why the Asari offer the monistary to asari with Mornith's case.....  So they can deal with the life long struggle easier.
It a very difficult case to have is some in real life has Mornith's condition.

You seem to think that every person everywhere is a sex addict, which simply isn't true. Noone, including sexual addicts, requires sex to live a healthy life. In fact, sexual addicts live especially healthy lives once they are able to stop having sex compared to their lifestyle during the addiction.

[Killjoy Cutter]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

who would know wrote...



imo

I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore. But that is an awesome gif! I can't watch it enough times. lol
Ok I'm gone, I'm gone.. Don't post replies to me. Saved and thank you ''who would know''.

How is that awesome?  Why is it cool to see the Monster kill someone?  Why do you even care/like the Monster?

Maybe you have caught that "sympthy for the devil" cold.  I hope it goes away soon.......

Besides im sure if you saw a video of a monster in real life slowly walking up to someone to butcher said someone, you would not think that is awesome.

He's a Morinth fanboy.

PS:  D Kain, we'll respond to you if we feel like it.   In fact, I think I might go back and find a couple of your pathetic Morinth fanboy posts to trash just for the hell of it. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

On the subject of Garrus, the important question isn't one of legality, Omega doesn't have rule of law, it has rule of force.

What Garrus did was fully moral, however -- curbing the power of the gangs to inflict pain, suffering, and death on the everday people around them.

[Nizzemancer]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

who would know wrote...



imo

I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore. But that is an awesome gif! I can't watch it enough times. lol
Ok I'm gone, I'm gone.. Don't post replies to me. Saved and thank you ''who would know''.

How is that awesome?  Why is it cool to see the Monster kill someone?  Why do you even care/like the Monster?

Maybe you have caught that "sympthy for the devil" cold.  I hope it goes away soon.......



Besides im sure if you saw a video of a monster in real life slowly walking up to someone to butcher said someone, you would not think that is awesome.

It's because his mom sent him to bed without supper = taking sides with psychopathic murderers who kill their moms in gif-pictures.

[dreman9999]

SandTrout wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. I did state etc..  You made a choice based on you condition, it doesn't mean you going tostay with out sex for ever.... Not the same case a Mornith.

Correct that I am not planning to abstain forever, but I can abstain indefinitely, if needed. Of course, my situation doesn't call for permanant abstinance, even if I am capable of it. If I killed every partner I had, I would abstain permanently.

2.And that is neglect. As I said she still is a horrible person for it.

So stop arguing that she isn't a monster, because that's pretty much the deffinition of a monster we're using.

4. I did say intimacy in general. I ment all forms of intimacy...this means non sexual friend ships as well. The problem with Morniths case is that she can't even have sex without killing anyone.It just means if she does not want to kill any one with sex, then she can't have sex...ever. Any normal person can live for some time with out sex...Even Mornith can live some time with out sex.

Normal people can live indefinitely w/o sex.

Question is, can a person live their entire live easilly with out having sex once they are sexually matured?

Yes.

That is a very hard thing to do and very difficult thing to do....And an asari live for up to 1000 years....... That's a long time with out sex. The next problem is the factthat she can be attacted to any one no matter the sex or race. Being close to a friend that you can be attacted to can be difficult if staving for intimacy of sex. Which is why the Asari offer the monistary to asari with Mornith's case.....  So they can deal with the life long struggle easier.
It a very difficult case to have is some in real life has Mornith's condition.

You seem to think that every person everywhere is a sex addict, which simply isn't true. Noone, including sexual addicts, requires sex to live a healthy life. In fact, sexual addicts live especially healthy lives once they are able to stop having sex compared to their lifestyle during the addiction.

I never said she was not a monster. She is one but more like the roman version of Medusa then anythng else.
Also, I don't think everyone is a sex addict. I just know that everyone like sex. Sex is not requared to live but live with the strong instict and denying it is very hard to do for your enter life. You don't need to be a sex addict to like sex. I just understand it's very diffecult to not only live with out  it over time but to maintain celibusy.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

On the subject of Garrus, the important question isn't one of legality, Omega doesn't have rule of law, it has rule of force.

What Garrus did was fully moral, however -- curbing the power of the gangs to inflict pain, suffering, and death on the everday people around them.

I'm not say it's not morally good what he did...Just that he still is a muder....I just want to point it out to people whould want to disown Mornith that the reason why they hate is one of the reason some of the crew is there.

[dreman9999]

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Was any thing Garrus did on omega lawful? Lasttime I checked, the law on omage was made by omega and the gangs. If he when ageint the gang, he was going ageint the laws of omage since they are part of making the law.

This laps you tried to use also can be use for Mornith. No law in omega state she can't kill anyone. So killing Nef is not legaly murder.

No he isn't. Aria is the law in Omega. 

 Aria is the highest branch. She makes sure order is maintaned. As long as she gets her cut she lets the  gangs do what they want. Example, in ME2 the bluesun had control over and area of slums in omega which they made people pay protection. They did what ever they wanted. All they did was give Aria he cut and they had nothing to worry about other then other gangs. But when the pluage hit, they had to deal with it on their own. Aria, the largest mean of order, closed of that slum so no one could get out. She left the clean up and solving of the problem to the blue suns and anyone in the area. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

On the subject of Garrus, the important question isn't one of legality, Omega doesn't have rule of law, it has rule of force.

What Garrus did was fully moral, however -- curbing the power of the gangs to inflict pain, suffering, and death on the everday people around them.

I'm not say it's not morally good what he did...Just that he still is a muder....I just want to point it out to people whould want to disown Mornith that the reason why they hate is one of the reason some of the crew is there.

Morinth and Garrus have both killed people. 

However, their motivations, methods, and targets couldn't be more different. 

[Dave of Canada]

Morinth would make a pretty badass spectre, she gets all the kills she wants with all of it being legal and she gets stronger with each kill. In addition to her still having a very long lifespan.

[Killjoy Cutter]

I can see choosing Morinth because you're playing Shep as an immoral or amoral idiot, or because you're curious as to what happens if you do. Nothing wrong with those kinds of choices.

But the people seriously, out-of character, defending Morinth kinda scare me.

[Arkitekt]

I like Morinth. She has more personality than her bland obnoxious mother.

I wouldn't marry her though .

[SandTrout]

dreman9999 wrote...

I never said she was not a monster. She is one but more like the roman version of Medusa then anythng else.

Fair enough. I'm not sure what you're argueing though, if that is the case.

Also, I don't think everyone is a sex addict. I just know that everyone like sex. Sex is not requared to live but live with the strong instict and denying it is very hard to do for your enter life. You don't need to be a sex addict to like sex. I just understand it's very diffecult to not only live with out  it over time but to maintain celibusy.

Most people enjoy drinking alcohol, but if you killed someone every time you got drunk, and keep doing it regardless, I'm less than sympathetic. Also, living w/o sex is not as difficult as you seem to think, especially if you don't have a lot of social pressures pressing on you to do so. Having come from the naval culture that's socially focused on alcohol and sex when on shore, I have seen both extremes practiced, and while they are the exception rather than the rule, there are a number of sailors who simply choose not to partake in those particular aspects of naval culture. They are usually simply put off by the consequences.

[thatguy212]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I can see choosing Morinth because you're playing Shep as an immoral or amoral idiot, or because you're curious as to what happens if you do. Nothing wrong with those kinds of choices.

But the people seriously, out-of character, defending Morinth kinda scare me.

Thats usually why i do it, that and because if shepard has a chance to become the new illusive man then i could use her an one of my assassins

[SandTrout]

thatguy212 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I can see choosing Morinth because you're playing Shep as an immoral or amoral idiot, or because you're curious as to what happens if you do. Nothing wrong with those kinds of choices.

But the people seriously, out-of character, defending Morinth kinda scare me.

Thats usually why i do it, that and because if shepard has a chance to become the new illusive man then i could use her an one of my assassins

I also have a Shepard that chose Morinth for that reason. Hell, I'll probably end up exploring the same-sex subplots in ME3 for that reason.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

On the subject of Garrus, the important question isn't one of legality, Omega doesn't have rule of law, it has rule of force.

What Garrus did was fully moral, however -- curbing the power of the gangs to inflict pain, suffering, and death on the everday people around them.

I'm not say it's not morally good what he did...Just that he still is a muder....I just want to point it out to people whould want to disown Mornith that the reason why they hate is one of the reason some of the crew is there.

Morinth and Garrus have both killed people. 

However, their motivations, methods, and targets couldn't be more different. 

True, that what make Garrus a good person amd Mornith an evil one. But the details is the degrees. Garrus enjoys killing people he thinks is evil, hence he like the act of infliction pain on other people. Mornith just wants the high from sex but does not care who she hurts to get it.
In the end Garrus likes hurting people to hurt them only if the person deserves it.
Mornith just wants the high and the feeling of courtship.

[dreman9999]

thatguy212 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I can see choosing Morinth because you're playing Shep as an immoral or amoral idiot, or because you're curious as to what happens if you do. Nothing wrong with those kinds of choices.

But the people seriously, out-of character, defending Morinth kinda scare me.

Thats usually why i do it, that and because if shepard has a chance to become the new illusive man then i could use her an one of my assassins

The one time a choose her, I did it so I could use her as a weapon ageints Cerberus one day.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Garrus = Charles Bronson in Death Wish. Kills because no one else will do the dirty job.

Morinth = Hannibal Lecter in "Hannibal". Kills for pleasure. "Nothing leaves you quite as empty as an Ardat Yakshi."-- Aria.

Shepard = Dirty Harry.

[1136342t54_]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Morinth would make a pretty badass spectre, she gets all the kills she wants with all of it being legal and she gets stronger with each kill. In addition to her still having a very long lifespan.

Not sure. While in combat she would be very effective Morinth gets pleasure from seducing and drawing in powerful people or innocent secluded indivduals. They may send her on solely Assassination oriented missions.

[dreman9999]

SandTrout wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I never said she was not a monster. She is one but more like the roman version of Medusa then anythng else.

Fair enough. I'm not sure what you're argueing though, if that is the case.

Also, I don't think everyone is a sex addict. I just know that everyone like sex. Sex is not requared to live but live with the strong instict and denying it is very hard to do for your enter life. You don't need to be a sex addict to like sex. I just understand it's very diffecult to not only live with out  it over time but to maintain celibacy.

Most people enjoy drinking alcohol, but if you killed someone every time you got drunk, and keep doing it regardless, I'm less than sympathetic. Also, living w/o sex is not as difficult as you seem to think, especially if you don't have a lot of social pressures pressing on you to do so. Having come from the naval culture that's socially focused on alcohol and sex when on shore, I have seen both extremes practiced, and while they are the exception rather than the rule, there are a number of sailors who simply choose not to partake in those particular aspects of naval culture. They are usually simply put off by the consequences.

Yes, that is true. But it only temporary. They will be a time they can have sex with their mates or someone they love.  To stop having sex for a while is not difficult, to not have it for the rest of your life is difficult, especially it your near people you are attracted with. Every case you explain is only temporary, do these sailors go with out sex for their entire lives? No, they just stop having it for a while and wait till they get home. Mornith does have a safe time to have sex. if she doesn't want to kill anyone with sex she has to go her entire life without it.

[thatguy212]

Every time someone mentions Morinth being like Hannibal Lecter i get the urge to draw morinth in the face mask

[1136342t54_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

On the subject of Garrus, the important question isn't one of legality, Omega doesn't have rule of law, it has rule of force.

What Garrus did was fully moral, however -- curbing the power of the gangs to inflict pain, suffering, and death on the everday people around them.

I'm not say it's not morally good what he did...Just that he still is a muder....I just want to point it out to people whould want to disown Mornith that the reason why they hate is one of the reason some of the crew is there.

Morinth and Garrus have both killed people. 

However, their motivations, methods, and targets couldn't be more different. 

True, that what make Garrus a good person amd Mornith an evil one. But the details is the degrees. Garrus enjoys killing people he thinks is evil, hence he like the act of infliction pain on other people. Mornith just wants the high from sex but does not care who she hurts to get it.
In the end Garrus likes hurting people to hurt them only if the person deserves it.
Mornith just wants the high and the feeling of courtship.

So after the entire freaking time arguing with you and trying to get you to see that Morinth is evil you now basically agree? At this point there is no but to it. She is evil period.

Now regarding Garrus? No he doesn't enjoy killing he enjoys Justice. Now if killing is a way to achieve Justice then he will enjoy it.

[dreman9999]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Garrus = Charles Bronson in Death Wish. Kills because no one else will do the dirty job.

Morinth = Hannibal Lecter in "Hannibal". Kills for pleasure. "Nothing leaves you quite as empty as an Ardat Yakshi."-- Aria.

Shepard = Dirty Harry.

The problem with that consept isthe fact that Mornith only murders people one way ...with sex. If she just murders because she enjoys it, Why hasn't she murdered people other ways?

[dreman9999]

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

On the subject of Garrus, the important question isn't one of legality, Omega doesn't have rule of law, it has rule of force.

What Garrus did was fully moral, however -- curbing the power of the gangs to inflict pain, suffering, and death on the everday people around them.

I'm not say it's not morally good what he did...Just that he still is a muder....I just want to point it out to people whould want to disown Mornith that the reason why they hate is one of the reason some of the crew is there.

Morinth and Garrus have both killed people. 

However, their motivations, methods, and targets couldn't be more different. 

True, that what make Garrus a good person amd Mornith an evil one. But the details is the degrees. Garrus enjoys killing people he thinks is evil, hence he like the act of infliction pain on other people. Mornith just wants the high from sex but does not care who she hurts to get it.
In the end Garrus likes hurting people to hurt them only if the person deserves it.
Mornith just wants the high and the feeling of courtship.

So after the entire freaking time arguing with you and trying to get you to see that Morinth is evil you now basically agree? At this point there is no but to it. She is evil period.

Now regarding Garrus? No he doesn't enjoy killing he enjoys Justice. Now if killing is a way to achieve Justice then he will enjoy it.

I never said she was not. She is a monster, just not the embodiment of evil people think she is. She maybe evil and deserve to die but I feel that some sympathy is need. Her case is not so cut and dry.

[1136342t54_]

dreman9999 wrote...
I never said she was not. She is a monster, just not the embodiment of evil people think she is. She maybe evil and deserve to die but I feel that some sympathy is need. Her case is not so cut and dry.

You kept claiming she wasn't evil. There are different types of evil I know but each type of evil is no less evil at all. Morinth made her choice. She chose a path that she knew was monstrous and she became a monster. There is no sympathy for her. I have sympathy for her sisters but not for Morinth.