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SHE HAD TO ESCAPE. Don't you understand? Freedom meant so much for her that she would rather die than live in seclusion, but she wasn't killed so she ran away.


Then she deserves to die and I have no sympathy for her. She chose Freedom over the lives of others.


YES that is exactly what she did. Now think of this - she would rather die than live in seclision. So she chose her LIFE over lives of others. Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice. 

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YES that is exactly what she did. Now think of this - she would rather die than live in seclision. So she chose her LIFE over lives of others. Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice. 


Morinth didn't have to kill period. If she really wanted to escape she could have just stayed off the grid without killing. She was smart enough to do that. Hell she could have easily joined some merc band in the Teriminus systems using a Alias. There are many things she could have done other than killing innocent people that would kick start her addiction.

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So she chose her LIFE over lives of others.

No she didn't.

Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice.

That's not the issue here.

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YES that is exactly what she did. Now think of this - she would rather die than live in seclision. So she chose her LIFE over lives of others. Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice. 


Morinth didn't have to kill period. If she really wanted to escape she could have just stayed off the grid without killing. She was smart enough to do that. Hell she could have easily joined some merc band in the Teriminus systems using a Alias. There are many things she could have done other than killing innocent people that would kick start her addiction.


No period there. She ran away when she was about 40. It's like a 16 year old girl all on her own in the galaxy, and she is being hunted. I doubt she would even have the chance to leave the planet if she didn't use seduction and didn't kill people so that they wouldn't get ravenge on her afterwards. As if being an outcast all alone is so simple and you can do everything on your own. Killing is what made her stronger and smarter. 

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D.Kain is so deluded that no rational person will buy his arguments, so I think it's safe for the rest of us to assume that he will not convince anyone of anything here.

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So she chose her LIFE over lives of others.

No she didn't.

Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice.

That's not the issue here.


Yes she did, and yes it is. lol

But I already pointed out the where it started and what is the main issue that leads to these.

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YES that is exactly what she did. Now think of this - she would rather die than live in seclision. So she chose her LIFE over lives of others. Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice. 


Morinth didn't have to kill period. If she really wanted to escape she could have just stayed off the grid without killing. She was smart enough to do that. Hell she could have easily joined some merc band in the Teriminus systems using a Alias. There are many things she could have done other than killing innocent people that would kick start her addiction.


No period there. She ran away when she was about 40. It's like a 16 year old girl all on her own in the galaxy, and she is being hunted. I doubt she would even have the chance to leave the planet if she didn't use seduction and didn't kill people so that they wouldn't get ravenge on her afterwards. As if being an outcast all alone is so simple and you can do everything on your own. Killing is what made her stronger and smarter. 


Morinth actually implied she left the planet by disguising her self as Samara you twit. She didn't kill anyone or at least didn't need to.

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SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain is so deluded that no rational person will buy his arguments, so I think it's safe for the rest of us to assume that he will not convince anyone of anything here.


Right. The only thing missing is you writing: La-la-la I'm not listening.

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1136342t54 wrote...

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YES that is exactly what she did. Now think of this - she would rather die than live in seclision. So she chose her LIFE over lives of others. Now I wonder how many people you know who would give their lives for the lives of random people from society if given the choice. 


Morinth didn't have to kill period. If she really wanted to escape she could have just stayed off the grid without killing. She was smart enough to do that. Hell she could have easily joined some merc band in the Teriminus systems using a Alias. There are many things she could have done other than killing innocent people that would kick start her addiction.


No period there. She ran away when she was about 40. It's like a 16 year old girl all on her own in the galaxy, and she is being hunted. I doubt she would even have the chance to leave the planet if she didn't use seduction and didn't kill people so that they wouldn't get ravenge on her afterwards. As if being an outcast all alone is so simple and you can do everything on your own. Killing is what made her stronger and smarter. 


Morinth actually said she left the planet by disguising her self as Samara you twit. She didn't kill anyone.


I thought she went out of seclusion by that. But it doesn't really change other issues.

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D.Kain wrote...

No period there. She ran away when she was about 40. It's like a 16 year old girl all on her own in the galaxy, and she is being hunted. I doubt she would even have the chance to leave the planet if she didn't use seduction and didn't kill people so that they wouldn't get ravenge on her afterwards. As if being an outcast all alone is so simple and you can do everything on your own. Killing is what made her stronger and smarter.

Then she should have accepted the offer of living in comfortable seculsion. Simply advancing your own interests in not a justification for murder.

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SandTrout wrote...

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No period there. She ran away when she was about 40. It's like a 16 year old girl all on her own in the galaxy, and she is being hunted. I doubt she would even have the chance to leave the planet if she didn't use seduction and didn't kill people so that they wouldn't get ravenge on her afterwards. As if being an outcast all alone is so simple and you can do everything on your own. Killing is what made her stronger and smarter.

Then she should have accepted the offer of living in comfortable seculsion. Simply advancing your own interests in not a justification for murder.


OMG. WHY do you think that if it's ok for you then it automatically has to be ok for everyone else? She would rather die, she said that herself. She doesn't need any comfot if she is not free.

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D.Kain wrote...

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D.Kain is so deluded that no rational person will buy his arguments, so I think it's safe for the rest of us to assume that he will not convince anyone of anything here.


Right. The only thing missing is you writing: La-la-la I'm not listening.

Except that I have listened and pointed out the logical flaws in every single one of your argument thoroughly. You have no valid logic and your moral basis is repugnant.

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D.Kain wrote...

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D.Kain is so deluded that no rational person will buy his arguments, so I think it's safe for the rest of us to assume that he will not convince anyone of anything here.


Right. The only thing missing is you writing: La-la-la I'm not listening.


Funny I thought that was you?

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SandTrout wrote...

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D.Kain is so deluded that no rational person will buy his arguments, so I think it's safe for the rest of us to assume that he will not convince anyone of anything here.


Right. The only thing missing is you writing: La-la-la I'm not listening.

Except that I have listened and pointed out the logical flaws in every single one of your argument thoroughly. You have no valid logic and your moral basis is repugnant.


It's not logic. It's your opinion in regards to how people should handdle things. I disagree with your points, but I understand them, you are logical, I just think that with things done like you want them to be it is worse. You think I have no logic.

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I thought she went out of seclusion by that. But it doesn't really change other issues.

Morinth said it took years to perfect but when she was younger she could do it. 



go to 1:17

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OMG. WHY do you think that if it's ok for you then it automatically has to be ok for everyone else? She would rather die, she said that herself. She doesn't need any comfot if she is not free.

Then she should have killed herself rather than killing others. That said, her freedom did not necessitate killing anyone, and was actually hindered by her indulgence of her condition.

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1136342t54 wrote...

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SandTrout wrote...

D.Kain is so deluded that no rational person will buy his arguments, so I think it's safe for the rest of us to assume that he will not convince anyone of anything here.


Right. The only thing missing is you writing: La-la-la I'm not listening.


Funny I thought that was you?


But I already said that we just don't agree on how things should be handled. That is the problem. We are both right, and there are differrent people who would be more comfortable to join the cause of one of us.

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It's not logic.

Good, you're admiting that you're not logical and just acting on a whim. You have no reason for believing the way you do except that you want to, and eveyone else should recognize the value of your wants.

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Here's what D Kain doesn't seem to get.

Morinth didn't just run and disappear, she didn't fight against her imprisonment.

She ran away, and then did exactly the monsterous, immoral, vile things that the Asari were trying to stop her from doing,


Running isn't freedom. How many more time? 


No matter how many times you say it, it won't justify the things she's done to innocent people. 

There are reportedly trillions of Asari, on how many planets?  If Morinth had disappeared into the masses, and not rapemurdered anyone, there would have been no trail for anyone to follow.    

But the rapemurdering was more important to her than her freedom.  Despite Samara's attempt to find something redeemable in her own daugher, it was never about freedom for Morinth, it was always about the thrill of her rapemurders.

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She became a monster because she was ALREDY treated like one.


LoL.  Spare us the bleeding-heart BS. 

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SandTrout wrote...

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OMG. WHY do you think that if it's ok for you then it automatically has to be ok for everyone else? She would rather die, she said that herself. She doesn't need any comfot if she is not free.

Then she should have killed herself rather than killing others. That said, her freedom did not necessitate killing anyone, and was actually hindered by her indulgence of her condition.


Well if you would rather kill yourself rather than others to survive it's your choice. It's not moral or ammoral it's just a choice.

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HEY you brought THAT up, good. Because I am SO with Anders on that one. ;)


Anders is a ****ing idiot during Act 3 and if it wasn't because my Hawke romanced him he would be dead.  


He did everythingg right. If people don't want to live peacefully with innocent mages, then there is no compromise.


Wow, I'm so stunned that you think Anders was justified.  I mean, what a shock.  Posted Image

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

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Here's what D Kain doesn't seem to get.

Morinth didn't just run and disappear, she didn't fight against her imprisonment.

She ran away, and then did exactly the monsterous, immoral, vile things that the Asari were trying to stop her from doing,


Running isn't freedom. How many more time? 


No matter how many times you say it, it won't justify the things she's done to innocent people. 

There are reportedly trillions of Asari, on how many planets?  If Morinth had disappeared into the masses, and not rapemurdered anyone, there would have been no trail for anyone to follow.    

But the rapemurdering was more important to her than her freedom.  Despite Samara's attempt to find something redeemable in her own daugher, it was never about freedom for Morinth, it was always about the thrill of her rapemurders.

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She became a monster because she was ALREDY treated like one.


LoL.  Spare us the bleeding-heart BS. 


BS is yours. 

It's how it works right? You can always live anywhere without registration without money. When you come somewhere to learn or work they don't ask you for any information or anything. And you don't have to register. 
How the hell would Morinth do it all without stealing things and seducing people, and killing them so that they keep quite??

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Well if you would rather kill yourself rather than others to survive it's your choice. It's not moral or ammoral it's just a choice.

Except that Morinth wasn't in that dilema anyways. Her life was not mutually exclusive to those hudreds that she has killed over the centuries. Though I'm sure a justified killing slipped in there at some point, most were not, and they were simply Morinth's indlugence.

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SandTrout wrote...

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It's not logic.

Good, you're admiting that you're not logical and just acting on a whim. You have no reason for believing the way you do except that you want to, and eveyone else should recognize the value of your wants.


You are just trying to put me down with every letter I write. I am sharing my opinion on the subject. I am not an idiot, all the conclusions I came to are based on what i got. Why do you think I would perpesly argue on something if it was stupid? Why??? 

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SandTrout wrote...

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Well if you would rather kill yourself rather than others to survive it's your choice. It's not moral or ammoral it's just a choice.

Except that Morinth wasn't in that dilema anyways. Her life was not mutually exclusive to those hudreds that she has killed over the centuries. Though I'm sure a justified killing slipped in there at some point, most were not, and they were simply Morinth's indlugence.


She WAS in that dilema. First you say that she should have killed herself, THEN you say she wasn't even in that situation, I elaborated it plenty times, make up your mind. I don't think you are wrong if you kill Morinth it's your choice, I just don't agree.