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Here is my stand for these 4 people:

I don't think that it is ok to lock up potently dangerous people up for the safety of others. I don't think it is ok to lock up potently dangerous people for MY safety. I think that everybody should be treated equally, and that judgement should come only AFTER/ONLY if they STILL make crimes.

That is the core of our disagreement here. The where it all starts and the thing that we do not agree on at the start. Everything else is what happens afterwards.

Samara is with those 4 people. Morinth is with me on this.

So your ok  living next to wild tiger that can potetionally eat you because they haven't eaten you yet?

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dreman9999 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Here is my stand for these 4 people:

I don't think that it is ok to lock up potently dangerous people up for the safety of others. I don't think it is ok to lock up potently dangerous people for MY safety. I think that everybody should be treated equally, and that judgement should come only AFTER/ONLY if they STILL make crimes.

That is the core of our disagreement here. The where it all starts and the thing that we do not agree on at the start. Everything else is what happens afterwards.

Samara is with those 4 people. Morinth is with me on this.

So your ok  living next to wild tiger that can potetionally eat you because they haven't eaten you yet?


Pretty much yes. Just because that tiger has brains beside instincts and because I don't want the tiger to live in a cage the rest of life.

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Why did they deserve it again?


Because they can provide Morinth with POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I KNEW that link was that scene! +10:lol:

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So your ok  living next to wild tiger that can potetionally eat you because they haven't eaten you yet?

Good plan...<_<...What? Not a good plan then?

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Your statement works for people with a working moral compass. Where the hell do you think Morinth is going to get one if she wasn't shown justice? Why would she show care for others if others didn't care about her? 


No it does work. Morinth knows what she is doing and knows she is a monster. Morinth is a monstrous creature who doesn't give a **** about others. Why should I care about someone like her? She chose a life of killing and she deserves what she gets.


Ok so you hate Morinth because she doesn't care for others and Morinth doesn't care for others because they don't care for her. So basically Morinth is both hated and not cared for, + hunted for death. Why would she start to care? Why is she supposed to make a first step?

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Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

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Ok so you hate Morinth because she doesn't care for others and Morinth doesn't care for others because they don't care for her. So basically Morinth is both hated and not cared for, + hunted for death. Why would she start to care? Why is she supposed to make a first step?


Every ****ing person Morinth seduces like her. Nef even appeared to fall in love with Morinth. Morinth kills everyone that cares for her.

THAT IS ****ING EVIL!!!

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BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.


She isn't a monster to my Shepard. Acts all nice and friendly, even didn't run away and asked to help me with my mission: 

Let me take my mothers place..


Others just need to be nice to her too. 

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Ok so you hate Morinth because she doesn't care for others and Morinth doesn't care for others because they don't care for her. So basically Morinth is both hated and not cared for, + hunted for death. Why would she start to care? Why is she supposed to make a first step?


Every ****ing person Morinth seduces like her. Nef even appeared to fall in love with Morinth. Morinth kills everyone that cares for her.

THAT IS ****ING EVIL!!!


And you know that how? To me Nef seemed brainwashed. I don't even know what kind of person Nef was before she met Morinth.

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BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.


Probably because you want to treat people like **** and have nothing come out of it...

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.

Don't let him make you sad. There's some hope in humanity.

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I get it, I've been doing this for so many pages. -_-

He's been trying to defame Nef as a drug addict and horrible person for like ten pages now. Awful.

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.


Probably because you want to treat people like **** and have nothing come out of it...

I also kill people with mind sex, sacrifice puppies, and cheat on my taxes.

By jove I'm MORINTH!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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I get it, I've been doing this for so many pages. -_-

He's been trying to defame Nef as a drug addict and horrible person for like ten pages now. Awful.


I do love the whole "Nef was a drug addict and therefore deserved to die!" bull.

And the "Those peasants gave her a power boost and they didn't accept her mind raping! AND THEREFORE DESERVE TO DIE!!!!" bull.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.


Probably because you want to treat people like **** and have nothing come out of it...

I also kill people with mind sex, sacrifice puppies, and cheat on my taxes.

By jove I'm MORINTH!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


Soo, were you also treated unfair by the rest of the society?

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And you know that how? To me Nef seemed brainwashed. I don't even know what kind of person Nef was before she met Morinth.


Nef's vids explain her growing infatuation with Morinth. Remember even Samara states how Morinth doesn't even need to use her powers. Even when first talking with Shepard she didn't user her abilities. You could say Nef was brainwashed (more like influenced or a lesser version of mindrape) during the courting but it just increased the amount of care she had for her. Morinth effectively kills anyone who has ever cared for her.

Also how the hell do you not know what kind of person Nef was? It is told in her vids, by her mother, even by Samara who states the type of people Morinth likes. Did you have ear plugs on while playing ME2?

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

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I get it, I've been doing this for so many pages. -_-

He's been trying to defame Nef as a drug addict and horrible person for like ten pages now. Awful.


I do love the whole "Nef was a drug addict and therefore deserved to die!" bull.

And the "Those peasants gave her a power boost and they didn't accept her mind raping! AND THEREFORE DESERVE TO DIE!!!!" bull.


They didn't nescecerely deserve to die. But they died because of Samara.

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D.Kain wrote...

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D.Kain wrote...
Ok so you hate Morinth because she doesn't care for others and Morinth doesn't care for others because they don't care for her. So basically Morinth is both hated and not cared for, + hunted for death. Why would she start to care? Why is she supposed to make a first step?


Every ****ing person Morinth seduces like her. Nef even appeared to fall in love with Morinth. Morinth kills everyone that cares for her.

THAT IS ****ING EVIL!!!


And you know that how? To me Nef seemed brainwashed. I don't even know what kind of person Nef was before she met Morinth.

The evidence is in the game, because Morinth did that and her mother tells you what Nef was like. All 3 of your points answered

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D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.


Probably because you want to treat people like **** and have nothing come out of it...

I also kill people with mind sex, sacrifice puppies, and cheat on my taxes.

By jove I'm MORINTH!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


Soo, were you also treated unfair by the rest of the society?

Yep.
Everybody treated me like crap growing up.
Which to you means I have the right to be as evil as possible because I am obviously incapable of having a basic concept of morality.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.


Sad to be human? BAH! D.Kain just further proves that Humanity truly needs the God Emperor of Man to rule over the human race.

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

And you know that how? To me Nef seemed brainwashed. I don't even know what kind of person Nef was before she met Morinth.


Nef's vids explain her growing infatuation with Morinth. Remember even Samara states how Morinth doesn't even need to use her powers. Even when first talking with Shepard she didn't user her abilities. You could say Nef was brainwashed (more like influenced or a lesser version of mindrape) during the courting but it just increased the amount of care she had for her. Morinth effectively kills anyone who has ever cared for her.

Also how the hell do you not know what kind of person Nef was? It is told in her vids, by her mother, even by Samara who states the type of people Morinth likes. Did you have ear plugs on while playing ME2?


It's not enough. And again you are getting off track. I am just speculatin on Nef. She could have been a good person and not deserve it. It's Samara to blame for her death anyway. 

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1136342t54 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Her past doesn't justify her killing others.

If Morinth has a broken moral compass and doesn't care about killing people (in addition to doing it for a fix), then she's a monster. It isn't all that difficult to understand.

He doesn't care.

By his "logic" It's okay to murder, rape, and pillage everything in your way if life treats you like sh*t.

The best part is that it's obviously the victims fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like D.Kain make me sad to be human.


Sad to be human? BAH! D.Kain just further proves that Humanity truly needs the God Emperor of Man to rule over the human race.

Cheesecake approves +40,000.
The Emperor protects.

*And he'd kill a monster like Morinth faster than you can say "Exterminatus"*

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Yep.
Everybody treated me like crap growing up.
Which to you means I have the right to be as evil as possible because I am obviously incapable of having a basic concept of morality.


You can be treated like crap because you are a crappy person or because you were born with unusual disiese. Which one is it?

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Honestly I enjoy debating with D.Kain. His arguments are easy to disprove.

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