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D.Kain wrote...

I have my evidance as well.


You have guesses and theories. Mostly crack pot theories.

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The amount of things you come up with is astounding. You are very imaginative you know that? 


So are people that came up with the big bang theory, though it is considered a valid point.


Except they had evidence to back up their observations.  Helps with validity.


I have my evidance as well.

Fanfiction isn't evidence

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1136342t54 wrote...

Morinth could have been celebate and lived in seclusion before she killed. Its to damn late for that. Did you forget that part that AY by nature cannot cooperate with others in the long term? more than likely most would live seclusion away from society anyway.


You just said yourself that one can defeat their nature and hold themselves together. Why can't Morinth live OUT of seclusion woth the other asari? 

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jreezy wrote...

Fanfiction isn't evidence


All I ever reffered to is in the game. 

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Mostly because she goes around murdering people.

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Mostly because she goes around murdering people.


She wouldn't if she was treated like everyone else.

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You just said yourself that one can defeat their nature and hold themselves together. Why can't Morinth live OUT of seclusion woth the other asari? 


Beat primal urges like not having sex. There is things like eating a certain amount every day or drinking water that can't be ****ing beat. Stop being stupid its not hard to know the difference between things that you can resist and can't resist.

Ardat Yakshi can only temporarily cooperate. Its likely Morinth won't even attempt to help Shep in ME3. Living in Seclusion is the best choice for everyone. AY wouldn't be tempted by the general population and the general population wouldn't be freaked the hell out by AY running around.

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And you have proof of that where?

Considering she kills Shepard even when Samara is dead, you seem to be grasping.

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D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Fanfiction isn't evidence


All I ever reffered to is in the game. 


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AY were probably gurdians once, when asari were primitive. AY were starile and had stronger biotics, so they acted as warriors.


That is fan fiction dude.

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BlueMagitek wrote...

And you have proof of that where?

Considering she kills Shepard even when Samara is dead, you seem to be grasping.


S-H-E  D-I-D-N-T'-T  W-A-N-T  S-H-E-P-A-R-D  T-O  D-I-E.  Enough? Or one more time?

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You have absolutely no proof of that outside of your own musings.

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BlueMagitek wrote...

You have absolutely no proof of that outside of your own musings.


Fan fiction!

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
You just said yourself that one can defeat their nature and hold themselves together. Why can't Morinth live OUT of seclusion woth the other asari? 


Beat primal urges like not having sex. There is things like eating a certain amount every day or drinking water that can't be ****ing beat. Stop being stupid its not hard to know the difference between things that you can resist and can't resist.

Ardat Yakshi can only temporarily cooperate. Its likely Morinth won't even attempt to help Shep in ME3. Living in Seclusion is the best choice for everyone. AY wouldn't be tempted by the general population and the general population wouldn't be freaked the hell out by AY running around.


I believe AY can not mate ever and hold themselves together. Like Morinth's sisters. And it is not  required for them to not die. 

How is living in seclusion better for Morinth if she said that she would rather die?

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There's no disclaimer, so it can't be called fanfiction. :P

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You have absolutely no proof of that outside of your own musings.

Why he can't understand this is just astounding.

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I believe AY can not mate ever and hold themselves together. Like Morinth's sisters. And it is not  required for them to not die. 

How is living in seclusion better for Morinth if she said that she would rather die?


Because she rather kill constantly for pleasure instead of live like that. 

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1136342t54 wrote...

That is fan fiction dude.


I said PROBABLY there, and that isw not even a valid evidence. 

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I believe AY can not mate ever and hold themselves together. Like Morinth's sisters. And it is not  required for them to not die. 

How is living in seclusion better for Morinth if she said that she would rather die?


Because she rather kill constantly for pleasure instead of live like that. 


Where is that ''wrong'' song video...

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D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

That is fan fiction dude.


I said PROBABLY there, and that isw not even a valid evidence. 


Alright then.

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No that is not why Morinth kills, it is PROBABLY a part of it, but certainly not the core motive nor the start of it all.

Now that is fanfiction. Codex and other ingame info pretty much says that statement is wrong.

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And you have proof of that where?

Considering she kills Shepard even when Samara is dead, you seem to be grasping.


S-H-E  D-I-D-N-T'-T  W-A-N-T  S-H-E-P-A-R-D  T-O  D-I-E.  Enough? Or one more time?


You know, if I take a gun and shoot at you, you don't necessarily die. There is a slim chance you survive. So I could just kill you and then claim I didn't want to kill you, just maybe scare you a bit? No court in the world would buy that.

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

That is fan fiction dude.


I said PROBABLY there, and that isw not even a valid evidence. 


Alright then.

D.Kain wrote...
No that is not why Morinth kills, it is PROBABLY a part of it, but certainly not the core motive nor the start of it all.

Now that is fanfiction. Codex and other ingame info pretty much says that statement is wrong.


Codex? Ok let's see what it says...

Ancient asari mythology held Ardat-Yakshi as gods of destruction, depicting them as villains of countless legends and as the anti-heroes of numerous asari epics.

Aha so that is what you say is truth. Cool....

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AlexXIV wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

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And you have proof of that where?

Considering she kills Shepard even when Samara is dead, you seem to be grasping.


S-H-E  D-I-D-N-T'-T  W-A-N-T  S-H-E-P-A-R-D  T-O  D-I-E.  Enough? Or one more time?


You know, if I take a gun and shoot at you, you don't necessarily die. There is a slim chance you survive. So I could just kill you and then claim I didn't want to kill you, just maybe scare you a bit? No court in the world would buy that.


And no court needed. If Morinth took a gamble of Shepard to live after melding and Shepard dies Morinth dies too. 

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D.Kain wrote...

S-H-E  D-I-D-N-T'-T  W-A-N-T  S-H-E-P-A-R-D  T-O  D-I-E.  Enough? Or one more time?


Yeah, once more with feeling.  Also, in sparkly GIF form.  That'd be awesome.

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didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

S-H-E  D-I-D-N-T'-T  W-A-N-T  S-H-E-P-A-R-D  T-O  D-I-E.  Enough? Or one more time?


Yeah, once more with feeling.  Also, in sparkly GIF form.  That'd be awesome.


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Codex? Ok let's see what it says...

Ancient asari mythology held Ardat-Yakshi as gods of destruction, depicting them as villains of countless legends and as the anti-heroes of numerous asari epics.

Aha so that is what you say is truth. Cool....


Hmmm thats the Codex Entry. I thought this was.

Asari: Ardat-Yakshi Ardat-Yakshi ("demon of the night winds") are asari suffering from a genetic disorder preventing conventional melding of nervous systems during mating. Instead, Ardat-Yakshi electro-chemically ravage their partners' nervous systems, in extreme cases leaving victims as vegetative invalids or corpses. Asari psychologists regard this incapacity for mental fusion as preventing the development of empathy, leading to psychopathy. There is no known cure.The disorder generally begins in infancy, reaching full pathology during Maiden adolescent sexual development. While seductive and sexually-driven as other asari, Ardat-Yakshi are congenitally sterile.Ancient asari mythology held Ardat-Yakshi as gods of destruction, depicting them as villains of countless legends and as the anti-heroes of numerous asari epics.Contrary to popular belief, Ardat-Yakshi are neither extremely rare (around one per cent of asari dwell on the AY spectrum), nor are they all murderers. Most cultivate and discard countless exploitative or abusive relationships during their legally marginal lives. Despite rumors of Ardat-Yakshi syndicates, by nature Ardat-Yakshi are incapable of long-term cooperation.As a disproportionately wealthy species, asari employ their economic reach and media ownership to hide the AY pathology from the galactic community, placing most Ardat-Yakshi in monitored work programs or seclusion. Only the most aggressive cases are sentenced to sanitaria and prisons or to the execution lists of justicars.


Also read the wiki entry

Ardat-Yakshi[/b] (meaning 'Demon Of The Night Winds' in an old asari dialect) is a rare genetic condition in asari, specifically affecting their nervous systems. Although the condition does not harm the asari, during mating the Ardat-Yakshi's nervous system completely overpowers and dominates that of her mates, causing hemorrhaging in the victim's brain and ultimately death. As a result, the Ardat-Yakshi becomes smarter, stronger and deadlier after each encounter. There are currently three known asari with this condition; Falere, Rila and Morinth, all of whom are daughters of Samara. Morinth chose to embrace her condition, while Falere and Rila opted for a life of peaceful seclusion.The condition is impossible to identify until the asari reaches maturity, by which time it is too late to correct. When diagnosed, afflicted asari are given a choice: live in isolation or be executed. The asari do this to the Ardat-Yakshi because it is an addictive condition; they feel compelled to mate, and the compulsion grows stronger each time they succeed. While it is not known how much the Ardat-Yakshi's strength increases after each mating, or whether the victim makes any difference, Morinth's continuous use of her condition over centuries allowed her to match Samara's power and experience, despite the 600 year difference between them.Morinth claims that the Ardat-Yakshi are the genetic destiny of the asari; a claim contradicted by the fact that all Ardat-Yakshi are sterile.If Shepard mates with Morinth, the Commander is struck dead almost immediately, becoming another victim of the condition.It is suspected that this condition is what lies at the root of the asari prejudice against purebloods. Samara, a pureblood herself, states that the condition is as old as the asari species, and that it appears only in the daughters of purebloods.Ardat-Yakshi also have the innate ability to dominate the minds of others.