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Gh0st_00 wrote...

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Exactly, most other species would have most likely killed her without a second thought. Yet the asari chose to give her a chance to live in comfort, free from all responsibility. I don't see why we should feel sympathy for her if she decided to kill innocents instead. 


to be honest I expect Humans to attempt to use Ardat Yakshi Humans as weapons. Unfortunately we would figure out its hard to control them then start killing them. Turians aren't necessarily heartless but its possible they would either just put those people in a hole or seclude them off on another planet where the only structures there are dedicated to the Ardat Yakshi. Salarians might end up killing them not wanting to take the chance.

Long story short Asari are the more merciful of the bunch.


To be honest I'd expect the Salarians to try and study them, wich may or may not end up being worse anyway.

I can't see the krogan or the vorcha letting them live though. So yeah, asari are the most merciful by far.


Actually, I could see Yakshi that have a signifigant bodycount gaining leadership positions with the Krogan. At least the old school, strength is leadership, Krogan. Wrex's Krogan would likely be less...open to them.

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D. Kain, you are either a MASTERFUL troll, or are confused or lacking insight or perspective.

If you are not a troll, I would like it if you would message me your full argument for why Morinth is a good person or not a bad person or whatever it is you think about here so that we can discuss this without you having to feel defensive about other peoples' responses. If you are genuine in your thoughts, you have me deeply worried.

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khordlambert wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

Exactly, most other species would have most likely killed her without a second thought. Yet the asari chose to give her a chance to live in comfort, free from all responsibility. I don't see why we should feel sympathy for her if she decided to kill innocents instead. 


to be honest I expect Humans to attempt to use Ardat Yakshi Humans as weapons. Unfortunately we would figure out its hard to control them then start killing them. Turians aren't necessarily heartless but its possible they would either just put those people in a hole or seclude them off on another planet where the only structures there are dedicated to the Ardat Yakshi. Salarians might end up killing them not wanting to take the chance.

Long story short Asari are the more merciful of the bunch.


To be honest I'd expect the Salarians to try and study them, wich may or may not end up being worse anyway.

I can't see the krogan or the vorcha letting them live though. So yeah, asari are the most merciful by far.


Actually, I could see Yakshi that have a signifigant bodycount gaining leadership positions with the Krogan. At least the old school, strength is leadership, Krogan. Wrex's Krogan would likely be less...open to them.


Now that you mention it, Wreav would probably be quite accepting of AY as he is the more traditionalist. Wrex, on the other hand is more focused on breeding and rebuilding the krogan, AY don't exactly help with that.

"Wrex can't keep his hands off a fertile female."
Guess it's a good thing the Yakshi are sterile then, right?

Modifié par Gh0st_00, 03 octobre 2011 - 03:05 .


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khordlambert wrote...
Actually, I could see Yakshi that have a signifigant bodycount gaining leadership positions with the Krogan. At least the old school, strength is leadership, Krogan. Wrex's Krogan would likely be less...open to them.


Actually no. The Krogan treasure fertile females. A female that is both infertile, no real loyalties and kills through mating? Yeah that **** is dead. 

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Now that you mention it, Wreav would probably be quite accepting of AY as he is the more traditionalist. Wrex, on the other hand is more focused on breeding and rebuilding the krogan, AY don't exactly help with that.

"Wrex can't keep his hands off a fertile female."
Guess it's a good thing the Yakshi are sterile then, right?


Not really fertile females is important to EVERY clan. Killing the fertile females of a clan is a way to destroy it. Wrex and the female Krogan Queen basically agreed on putting a monopoly on the Krogan females to control the Krogan.

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1136342t54 wrote...

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Actually, I could see Yakshi that have a signifigant bodycount gaining leadership positions with the Krogan. At least the old school, strength is leadership, Krogan. Wrex's Krogan would likely be less...open to them.


Actually no. The Krogan treasure fertile females. A female that is both infertile, no real loyalties and kills through mating? Yeah that **** is dead. 


Hence why I said Old school. Before the Genophage. Should've mentioned that. They have no value breeding, but provide them with enough meals and you have someone strong enough to warrent respect. There probably were female warmasters back in the day, and a Yakshi that had eaten enough would probably have held that spot easy.

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One of the most famous and successful warlords was female, trying to recall the name.

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One of the most famous and successful warlords was female, trying to recall the name.


Shiagur?

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Hello everybody, I'm back.

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an exuse to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this exuse? You want to treat people unfair and have nothing come out of it? You are ok with people treated unfair and you want it to continue? I just don't understand. Just don't treat people unfair and they will have no exuse. Must be too hard for you to do it..

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D.Kain wrote...

Hello everybody, I'm back.

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an exuse to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this exuse? You want to treat people unfair and have nothing come out of it? You are ok with people treated unfair and you want it to continue? I just don't understand. Just don't treat people unfair and they will have no exuse. Must be too hard for you to do it..


Its not an excuse at all. You can be an outcast for many different reasons and some of those reasons are good. Plus there are some people who were high school students who feel like they are outcasts. Should they be able to kill there fellow students?

Edit: You know what **** your answer. Its likely you'll say yes and try to explain or you would say no and try to explain the reasons why Morinth is different and we should treat her as the next ****ing coming. 

Long story short you are out of touch with society and basic understanding of morality or your a troll. 

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 03 octobre 2011 - 03:28 .


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D.Kain wrote...

Hello everybody, I'm back.

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an exuse to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this exuse? You want to treat people unfair and have nothing come out of it? You are ok with people treated unfair and you want it to continue? I just don't understand. Just don't treat people unfair and they will have no exuse. Must be too hard for you to do it..


Because we don't want her dead because she's an outcast you deluded nut! SHE HAS BEEN KILLING PEOPLE! She has given us all plenty reason to want her dead! If she just ran we likely wouldn't care! But she didn't! She has been leaving behind bodies to feed her addiction!

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1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Hello everybody, I'm back.

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an exuse to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this exuse? You want to treat people unfair and have nothing come out of it? You are ok with people treated unfair and you want it to continue? I just don't understand. Just don't treat people unfair and they will have no exuse. Must be too hard for you to do it..


Its not an excuse at all. You can be an outcast for many different reasons and some of those reasons are good. Plus there are some people who were high school students who feel like they are outcasts. Should they be able to kill there fellow students?


Well if I remember correctly there were student that were so pissed off that they took guns and started to shoot their fellow student. You want to blame them or the bully's that drove them to such horrible acts? 

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D.Kain wrote...

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an ex[c]use to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this ex[c]use? 


Probably because it's sheer nonsense.  People being mean to you does not justify murder. 

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khordlambert wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Hello everybody, I'm back.

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an exuse to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this exuse? You want to treat people unfair and have nothing come out of it? You are ok with people treated unfair and you want it to continue? I just don't understand. Just don't treat people unfair and they will have no exuse. Must be too hard for you to do it..


Because we don't want her dead because she's an outcast you deluded nut! SHE HAS BEEN KILLING PEOPLE! She has given us all plenty reason to want her dead! If she just ran we likely wouldn't care! But she didn't! She has been leaving behind bodies to feed her addiction!


Because she kills because she is an outcast! She lieved behind bodies to become stronger to survive on her own.

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D.Kain wrote...

Well if I remember correctly there were student that were so pissed off that they took guns and started to shoot their fellow student. You want to blame them or the bully's that drove them to such horrible acts? 


You blame the bullies for their abuse and you blame the shooters for murdering people.  It's not that hard.

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khordlambert wrote...
Hence why I said Old school. Before the Genophage. Should've mentioned that. They have no value breeding, but provide them with enough meals and you have someone strong enough to warrent respect. There probably were female warmasters back in the day, and a Yakshi that had eaten enough would probably have held that spot easy.


Well you have to think about it for a sec. Krogan honors strength through martial prowess. Its possible some female Krogan will be honored for what they are but other Ardat Yakshi could simply be killed or not respected at all. Maybe even seen as clanless because of there abilities.

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didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Well if I remember correctly there were student that were so pissed off that they took guns and started to shoot their fellow student. You want to blame them or the bully's that drove them to such horrible acts? 


You blame the bullies for their abuse and you blame the shooters for murdering people.  It's not that hard.


This.

Edit: Sadly D.Kain would argue that the shooter is not to blame.

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didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an ex[c]use to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this ex[c]use? 


Probably because it's sheer nonsense.  People being mean to you does not justify murder. 


It does! Again how hard is it to not be mean?? You want to be mean so bad that you hate a person that responded to in a bad way. If she was treated fair it wouldn't happen.

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Edit: You know what **** your answer. Its likely you'll say yes and try to explain or you would say no and try to explain the reasons why Morinth is different and we should treat her as the next ****ing coming. 

Long story short you are out of touch with society and basic understanding of morality or your a troll. 


I actually have a lot of friends and a loving family that's why I am caring and nice to other people in my life. Everybody usually like me when we meet. 
Morinth didn't have what I have, she is justified to act bad.

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D.Kain wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an ex[c]use to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this ex[c]use? 


Probably because it's sheer nonsense.  People being mean to you does not justify murder. 


It does! Again how hard is it to not be mean?? You want to be mean so bad that you hate a person that responded to in a bad way. If she was treated fair it wouldn't happen.


Man I'm glad you havn't lived my life.  You'd be a psychotic mass murderer by now...

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1136342t54 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Well if I remember correctly there were student that were so pissed off that they took guns and started to shoot their fellow student. You want to blame them or the bully's that drove them to such horrible acts? 


You blame the bullies for their abuse and you blame the shooters for murdering people.  It's not that hard.


This.

Edit: Sadly D.Kain would argue that the shooter is not to blame.


Yes I will. 

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Again how hard is it to not be mean?


So what?  How hard is it not to kill someone?  Unless people being mean to you utterly removes your ability to choose not to, you know, commit homicide, you have no justification for that action.

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Man I'm glad you havn't lived my life.  You'd be a psychotic mass murderer by now...


Well I admire you then. Doesn't mean that other people are so strong.

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I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

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didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Again how hard is it to not be mean?


So what?  How hard is it not to kill someone?  Unless people being mean to you utterly removes your ability to choose not to, you know, commit homicide, you have no justification for that action.


Morinth kills because she is on her own, because she needs power to fight back those that want to kill her. She will not run away because she wants to enjoy life and not hide somewhere underground behind cracks. She is perfectly justified.