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[khordlambert]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Well if I remember correctly there were student that were so pissed off that they took guns and started to shoot their fellow student. You want to blame them or the bully's that drove them to such horrible acts? 

You blame the bullies for their abuse and you blame the shooters for murdering people.  It's not that hard.

This.

Edit: Sadly D.Kain would argue that the shooter is not to blame.

Yes I will. 

Except you havent. Morinth is responsible for everything horrible she's done and yet you keep deflecting that blame elsewhere.

[D.Kain]

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

[D.Kain]

khordlambert wrote...

Except you havent. Morinth is responsible for everything horrible she's done and yet you keep deflecting that blame elsewhere.

You keep trying to solve the problem at the tail. I grab the problem by the horns.

[MACharlie1]

D.Kain wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Again how hard is it to not be mean?

So what?  How hard is it not to kill someone?  Unless people being mean to you utterly removes your ability to choose not to, you know, commit homicide, you have no justification for that action.

Morinth kills because she is on her own, because she needs power to fight back those that want to kill her. She will not run away because she wants to enjoy life and not hide somewhere underground behind cracks. She is perfectly justified.

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

[Gh0st_00]

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

Not shown love? She was given over 40 years of love and affection by her family, she was not abused or wronged in any way.

[D.Kain]

Gh0st_00 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

Not shown love? She was given over 40 years of love and affection by her family, she was not abused or wronged in any way.

And then they stopped because she wasn't what she thought she was. Exelent! 

[RyuujinZERO]

Society won't change because you represent a minority who is different, they will try and change you. It's ignorant of them and often wrong and ineffectual, but ignorance on their part does not justify murder of them and every innocent bystander.

And let;s be clear, it's not just the asari dying at morinth's hands.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

No. Actually it's because Ardat-Yakshi naturally have a lack of empathy.

Just a little. It doesn't make them monsters.

[D.Kain]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Society won't change because you represent a minority who is different, they will try and change you. It's ignorant of them and often wrong and ineffectual, but ignorance on their part does not justify murder of them and every innocent bystander.

And let;s be clear, it's not just the asari dying at morinth's hands.

Society SHOULD change and adapt to every minority if it wants to be a healthy place to live. There is a whole bunch of minorities and together they make society.

Modifié par D.Kain, 03 octobre 2011 - 03:43 .

[RyuujinZERO]

D.Kain wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Society won't change because you represent a minority who is different, they will try and change you. It's ignorant of them and often wrong and ineffectual, but ignorance on their part does not justify murder of them and every innocent bystander.

And let;s be clear, it's not just the asari dying at morinth's hands.

Society SHOULD change and adapt to every minority if it wants to be a healthy place to live.

Perhaps, but it still doesn't justify morinth's actions.

[MACharlie1]

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

No. Actually it's because Ardat-Yakshi naturally have a lack of empathy.

Just a little. It doesn't make them monsters.

I...have to agree. Morinth's sisters aren't sociopathic - technically psychopathic as you are describing.. 

[D.Kain]

MACharlie1 wrote...

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

That's what Samara told you? Kill her.

[MACharlie1]

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

That's what Samara told you? Kill her.

Ah. But I wouldn't be justified in doing so since Samara has not committed any sort of harm towards me - she has sworn her service in fact. 

[D.Kain]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Society won't change because you represent a minority who is different, they will try and change you. It's ignorant of them and often wrong and ineffectual, but ignorance on their part does not justify murder of them and every innocent bystander.

And let;s be clear, it's not just the asari dying at morinth's hands.

Society SHOULD change and adapt to every minority if it wants to be a healthy place to live.

Perhaps, but it still doesn't justify morinth's actions.

It does! I am not saying that she did good things. I am saying that I am going to punish those that are responsible and try to rehab her. If she is messed up beyond understanding friendship I will show her I will kill her out of pitty. But if anything, Samara deserves to die for Morinth's victims.

[D.Kain]

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

That's what Samara told you? Kill her.

Ah. But I wouldn't be justified in doing so since Samara has not committed any sort of harm towards me - she has sworn her service in fact. 

Oh how cute. Well Morinth hasn't done any harm to MY Shepard too. 

[Gh0st_00]

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

Not shown love? She was given over 40 years of love and affection by her family, she was not abused or wronged in any way.

And then they stopped because she wasn't what she thought she was. Exelent! 

No, when they realized she had a terrible and dangerous condition they offered her the chance to live in ease and comfort, free from responsibility where she couldn't hurt anyone. Instead she chose to run and keep killing innocent people because she liked doing so. She didn't run because she wanted freedom, she ran for her own selfish reasons. She wanted to keep getting her high at the expense of other people's lives.

[khordlambert]

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

That's what Samara told you? Kill her.

Considering Morinth had already killed someone before we even see her, I have to agree with Samara.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

No. Actually it's because Ardat-Yakshi naturally have a lack of empathy.

Just a little. It doesn't make them monsters.

Just a little? Don't kid yourself. You'd have to have a severe lack of empathy to take an innocent daughter away from her mother and not give a f**k.

Well yes. That's Morinth. I am talking about AY in general. Her sisters have some don't they? Morinth could have it too in normal conditions.

[MACharlie1]

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

That's what Samara told you? Kill her.

Ah. But I wouldn't be justified in doing so since Samara has not committed any sort of harm towards me - she has sworn her service in fact. 

Oh how cute. Well Morinth hasn't done any harm to MY Shepard too. 

Besides that whole attempt to seduce and kill you thing - regardless of whoever did Morinth wrong and why she is the way she is.

Oh and cute? Baby i know. 

[khordlambert]

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I thought she killed because she gets a high off it.  She only ran after she had probably already killed quite a few people...

That's what Samara told you? Kill her.

Ah. But I wouldn't be justified in doing so since Samara has not committed any sort of harm towards me - she has sworn her service in fact. 

Oh how cute. Well Morinth hasn't done any harm to MY Shepard too. 

Not that Morrinth hasn't tried. Twice if you save her.

[D.Kain]

Gh0st_00 wrote...

No, when they realized she had a terrible and dangerous condition they offered her the chance to live in ease and comfort, free from responsibility where she couldn't hurt anyone. Instead she chose to run and keep killing innocent people because she liked doing so. She didn't run because she wanted freedom, she ran for her own selfish reasons. She wanted to keep getting her high at the expense of other people's lives.

BAD solution. Follow this: 

Morinth would rather die than live in soclusion. 

Morinth choice is death or worse then death for her. What a freakin awesome choice. You want a person to have any empathy after that??

[khordlambert]

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.

Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.

No. Actually it's because Ardat-Yakshi naturally have a lack of empathy.

Just a little. It doesn't make them monsters.

Just a little? Don't kid yourself. You'd have to have a severe lack of empathy to take an innocent daughter away from her mother and not give a f**k.

Well yes. That's Morinth. I am talking about AY in general. Her sisters have some don't they? Morinth could have it too in normal conditions.

Morinth was IN the same situation as her sisters.