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[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

No, there is not.
The AY is the same salution of someone who has madness and have a hard time controlling themselves and can be a danger to themselves and other people. They dealt with AY much longer than human history. They know what may happen the best. The case is that they may succumb. Having an AY near people is like having a former crack addict locked in a room filled with crack.

I think that a healthy life is better than crack. Make it a different anology: There is crack in the room and there are also your friends and toys and books and a pool, a disco floor, a whole world to explore. And you know that once you open a bag of crack it is all going away.

[ThePwener]

D.Kain wrote...

Repeat after me:

She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 

Good. Now.

She is a wolf alright but it's not her fault she became one.

Didn't stop her from doing it.

And what's that about she not wanting to become one? Did someone put a Phalanx on her head and forced her to mind**** people? I doubt it.

[Sethan_1]

D.Kain wrote...

But I already said that in order for somebody to desire to be nice to others, that person needs to be shown nice.

What Morinth desires is irrelevant.  She chooses to murder people, which makes her both a murderer and responsible for those murders.

That she chooses to do so because she would find her other choices unpleasant or inconvenient, makes her no less responsible, and no less a monster.

[khordlambert]

D.Kain wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

No Morinth is a radical that thinks that. I am just behind her.

No, Morinth is a murder who uses those excuses to justify her way of life. You are a fool who believes her. She knew Shepard would die if she melded with him, yet she lied and tricked him into doing it. we know how that turned out.

Trickery and lies are her best tools for survival. She is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Repeat after me:

She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 

Good. Now.

She is a wolf alright but it's not her fault she became one.

Yes she did. She was LIEING to you. To get Shepard to meld with her.

Yeah what a concept. The homicidal addict was willing to lie to get her fix.

[D.Kain]

ThePwener wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Repeat after me:

She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 

Good. Now.

She is a wolf alright but it's not her fault she became one.

Didn't stop her from doing it.

And what's that about she not wanting to become one? Did someone put a Phalanx on her head and forced her to mind**** people? I doubt it.

Aha the justicars.

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Then it's your youth that give you that naive ideology.
 Let's flip this abit, what if it's you that she has sights on....Would you let her have her way with you, knowing her past history, or would you fight back?

I would fight her back there and at the moment for my life. I wouldn't blame her if she killed me. And if I was asked to solve the issue I wouldn't kill her but would try to make her understand friendship and help her to kill justicars.

They very fact that you would fight is a clear issue that you understand the right of living. Every being has that. But if one is taking other live away, one has the right to stop it for their own safety. If you failed to convice her, would you kill her to save yourself?
And the problem in her life is intimacy....How would adding more help her?

[D.Kain]

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

But I already said that in order for somebody to desire to be nice to others, that person needs to be shown nice.

What Morinth desires is irrelevant.  She chooses to murder people, which makes her both a murderer and responsible for those murders.

That she chooses to do so because she would find her other choices unpleasant or inconvenient, makes her no less responsible, and no less a monster.

No it does.

[D.Kain]

khordlambert wrote...


Yes she did. She was LIEING to you. To get Shepard to meld with her.

Yeah what a concept. The homicidal addict was willing to lie to get her fix.

You are saying she is suicidal, I don't believe that.

[D.Kain]

Dunstan wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Ok I'm going to walk out this thread myself. You will never see another one of my posts here. Keep thinking that I'm trolling, or that I am an idiot. This argument IS like talking to a wall.

WE DON"T AGREE ON BASIC LIFE CONCEPTS. I understand your point, I just don't agree, you on the other hand don't even understand.

Have fun.

Anyone remember this? 

Yeah, I just couldn't contain myself anymore. 

[dreman9999]

khordlambert wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

No Morinth is a radical that thinks that. I am just behind her.

No, Morinth is a murder who uses those excuses to justify her way of life. You are a fool who believes her. She knew Shepard would die if she melded with him, yet she lied and tricked him into doing it. we know how that turned out.

Trickery and lies are her best tools for survival. She is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Repeat after me:

She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 
She didn't want to kill Shepard. 

Good. Now.

She is a wolf alright but it's not her fault she became one.

Yes she did. She was LIEING to you. To get Shepard to meld with her.

Yeah what a concept. The homicidal addict was willing to lie to get her fix.

...Um...She didn't want to kill Shepard.....More of a fact that she didn't not care that she could kill Shepard. She just wants the sex. She would tell you anything to get it.

[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Then it's your youth that give you that naive ideology.
 Let's flip this abit, what if it's you that she has sights on....Would you let her have her way with you, knowing her past history, or would you fight back?

I would fight her back there and at the moment for my life. I wouldn't blame her if she killed me. And if I was asked to solve the issue I wouldn't kill her but would try to make her understand friendship and help her to kill justicars.

They very fact that you would fight is a clear issue that you understand the right of living. Every being has that. But if one is taking other live away, one has the right to stop it for their own safety. If you failed to convice her, would you kill her to save yourself?
And the problem in her life is intimacy....How would adding more help her?

If I failed to convience her I would kill her for her sake. It is a sad life without understanding love and friendship.

[ThePwener]

D.Kain wrote...

There is crack in the room and there are also your friends and toys and books and a pool, a disco floor, a whole world to explore. And you know that once you open a bag of crack it is all going away.

That is a really bad analogy. One thing will always lead to the other. She would have eventually gone out and done it.

I doubt she went out and started killing on her first day of freedom. Most people can't help themselves and have sex before they're 18. Her race lives for a a 1000 years! You have to be Jesus not to fall prey to carnal needs in all that time.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Actually it means good for a majority over good of the few.

Realise once and for all. lol. - Majority is made out of small minorities! You have to take into account EVERY minority to make a healthy society. Not periodically screw other people when they are in minority so they can screw you back when you are in minority.

I could apply this to another situation: Do you support Shepard blowing up the Mass Relay in Arrival to delay the Reapers arrival and give the galaxy time to prepare?

Yes. If you are talking about killing battarians, then they are dead in any case. So yeah..

[D.Kain]

ThePwener wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

There is crack in the room and there are also your friends and toys and books and a pool, a disco floor, a whole world to explore. And you know that once you open a bag of crack it is all going away.

That is a really bad analogy. One thing will always lead to the other. She would have eventually gone out and done it.

I doubt she went out and started killing on her first day of freedom. Most people can't help themselves and have sex before they're 18. Her race lives for a a 1000 years! You have to be Jesus not to fall prey to carnal needs in all that time.

There are pastors that are virgins their whole life.

[ThePwener]

dreman9999 wrote...

...Um...She didn't want to kill Shepard.....More of a fact that she didn't not care that she could kill Shepard. She just wants the sex. She would tell you anything to get it.

Exactly, she can't help it. That's an even more dangerous position to be in then just wanting to do it.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

khordlambert wrote...


Yes she did. She was LIEING to you. To get Shepard to meld with her.

Yeah what a concept. The homicidal addict was willing to lie to get her fix.

You are saying she is suicidal, I don't believe that.

Why do you keep assuming that situation is suicidal to Morinth when there is no evidence to back up such a claim?

Common sense like you like to call it. There is no way to get off an AI ship if you do not control that AI. 

[D.Kain]

ThePwener wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

...Um...She didn't want to kill Shepard.....More of a fact that she didn't not care that she could kill Shepard. She just wants the sex. She would tell you anything to get it.

Exactly, she can't help it. That's an even more dangerous position to be in then just wanting to do it.

I don't agree with this. I mean she DOES want it but she can hold herself if you say no.

[ThePwener]

D.Kain wrote...

There are pastors that are virgins their whole life.

 
Humans - 80y. MAX

Asari - 950y. MAX

Don't take it out of context. She excaped because she was like her mother, wanted to experince everything, taste everything. Pastors do it out of duty. She just wanted to cut loose and have fun.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

That's a "For the greater good" situation. Why is it that you can agree with that but you can't agree with the Asari offering Morinth a choice of seclusion when it is for the same reason, the greater good?

It's not the same. 

Batarians were already dead anyway. If I didn't destroy the relay the reapers would arrive in a couple of seconds and destroy the batarians anyway. 

[ThePwener]

D.Kain wrote...

I don't agree with this. I mean she DOES want it but she can hold herself if you say no.

Yeah, I wonder for how long though.