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#2251
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AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

I can't believe this has reached 90 pages.....i never expected when i created this topic, that it would be the fastest growing topic i have seen on this forum.


The power of controvery my friend. Don't understimate heated issues in the BSN - where everyone hates everyone, period.

Hey that's my thing!

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AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

How should the Monster be handled in ME3? Im sure she isn't going to be squad member, so if she survived the events of ME2, how should she affect ME3?


1) By doing something useful for Shepard undercover. Hipnotise and all.

2) By attacking other justicars and causing problems with Shepard getting asari alies.

3) Random encounter with her daily life and be killed by Shepard if she was bad, or just run away, or go away.

 

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AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

How should the Monster be handled in ME3? Im sure she isn't going to be squad member, so if she survived the events of ME2, how should she affect ME3?

BY SLEEPING TILL MORNING TO DISCUSSED IT.

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AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

How should the Monster be handled in ME3? Im sure she isn't going to be squad member, so if she survived the events of ME2, how should she affect ME3?


Same way Commissars in Warhammer 40k handle cowardace in their ranks.

(BLAM!)

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khordlambert wrote...

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

How should the Monster be handled in ME3? Im sure she isn't going to be squad member, so if she survived the events of ME2, how should she affect ME3?


Same way Commissars in Warhammer 40k handle cowardace in their ranks.

(BLAM!)


SO many wk 40k fans here. :lol:

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D.Kain wrote...

I wonder what happens when 2 Ardat Yakshi mate.


What would be a kick is if both of the following were true:

1) Both survive the experience because Ardat Yakshi are immune to being killed in that manner.

and

2) The reason they are sterile is because the partner dies before they finish transferring the necessary genetic information.

If that were the case, they could actually be capable of reproducing with each other.

...which might mean they really -are- the genetic destiny of the Asari.

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Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I wonder what happens when 2 Ardat Yakshi mate.


What would be a kick is if both of the following were true:

1) Both survive the experience because Ardat Yakshi are immune to being killed in that manner.

and

2) The reason they are sterile is because the partner dies before they finish transferring the necessary genetic information.

If that were the case, they could actually be capable of reproducing with each other.

...which might mean they really -are- the genetic destiny of the Asari.


And what if they also get a power boost from each other? 

They could still mindcontroll too, and be immune to it. They can take over the galaxy. lol

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AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

How should the Monster be handled in ME3? Im sure she isn't going to be squad member, so if she survived the events of ME2, how should she affect ME3?


I'd like there to be something good and something bad depending on who you saved.

Example if you saved Samara:- She could have a mission in which she'd be a temp-squaddie, and you'd take/destroy/sabotage something by force from Cerberus. But later in the game she'd do something which forces Shep to make a choice, something like her code makes her turn on one of you're perm-squad who is in your party at the time. (Bioware did say they wanted a smaller squad with more depth)

And if you saved Morinth:- She'd also have mission where she'd become a temp-squaddie, and you'd have to take/destroy/sabotage something using more cunning (And maybe Morinth could use her Ardat Yakshi abilities to do good for once). And the flip-side for her could be that she breaks her sisters out of seclusion and all three do a runner, believing that nobody would care because of the Reapers. Again Shep gets to make a choice.

I'm not bad at this.

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Dunstan wrote...

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

How should the Monster be handled in ME3? Im sure she isn't going to be squad member, so if she survived the events of ME2, how should she affect ME3?


I'd like there to be something good and something bad depending on who you saved.

Example if you saved Samara:- She could have a mission in which she'd be a temp-squaddie, and you'd take/destroy/sabotage something by force from Cerberus. But later in the game she'd do something which forces Shep to make a choice, something like her code makes her turn on one of you're perm-squad who is in your party at the time. (Bioware did say they wanted a smaller squad with more depth)

And if you saved Morinth:- She'd also have mission where she'd become a temp-squaddie, and you'd have to take/destroy/sabotage something using more cunning (And maybe Morinth could use her Ardat Yakshi abilities to do good for once). And the flip-side for her could be that she breaks her sisters out of seclusion and all three do a runner, believing that nobody would care because of the Reapers. Again Shep gets to make a choice.

I'm not bad at this.


Breaking out her sisters would only redeem her in my eyes. :lol:

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Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I wonder what happens when 2 Ardat Yakshi mate.


What would be a kick is if both of the following were true:

1) Both survive the experience because Ardat Yakshi are immune to being killed in that manner.

and

2) The reason they are sterile is because the partner dies before they finish transferring the necessary genetic information.

If that were the case, they could actually be capable of reproducing with each other.

...which might mean they really -are- the genetic destiny of the Asari.

I think you just gave D.Kain an orgasm.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I wonder what happens when 2 Ardat Yakshi mate.


What would be a kick is if both of the following were true:

1) Both survive the experience because Ardat Yakshi are immune to being killed in that manner.

and

2) The reason they are sterile is because the partner dies before they finish transferring the necessary genetic information.

If that were the case, they could actually be capable of reproducing with each other.

...which might mean they really -are- the genetic destiny of the Asari.

I think you just gave D.Kain an orgasm.


Asari are already cool as they are. A race of AY would be even more awesome. :D
I don't want to play a human anymore. 

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@D.Kain - Then you would choose the 3rd option, in my super awesome glimpse at what the choices could be when bumping into Morinth and her (Now freed) sisters:
1) Kill them all
2) Only kill Morinth, force sisters to go back
3) Let them go

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Dunstan wrote...

@D.Kain - Then you would choose the 3rd option, in my super awesome glimpse at what the choices could be when bumping into Morinth and her (Now freed) sisters:
1) Kill them all
2) Only kill Morinth, force sisters to go back
3) Let them go


But of course. Though an even better choice would be to help them find a good place in the galactic communtiy where they could do something useful and at the same time enjoy life. I think Shepard has enough authority to organise that.

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Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I wonder what happens when 2 Ardat Yakshi mate.


What would be a kick is if both of the following were true:

1) Both survive the experience because Ardat Yakshi are immune to being killed in that manner.

and

2) The reason they are sterile is because the partner dies before they finish transferring the necessary genetic information.

If that were the case, they could actually be capable of reproducing with each other.

...which might mean they really -are- the genetic destiny of the Asari.


 Except that there is no such thing as a genetic destiny

 What strikes me as odd with the Asari is that if in reproducing they don't actually take anything from who they have mated with.. why are they a species which mates? They must have a very confusing evolutionary history

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TobyHasEyes wrote...

Sethan_1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I wonder what happens when 2 Ardat Yakshi mate.


What would be a kick is if both of the following were true:

1) Both survive the experience because Ardat Yakshi are immune to being killed in that manner.

and

2) The reason they are sterile is because the partner dies before they finish transferring the necessary genetic information.

If that were the case, they could actually be capable of reproducing with each other.

...which might mean they really -are- the genetic destiny of the Asari.


 Except that there is no such thing as a genetic destiny

 What strikes me as odd with the Asari is that if in reproducing they don't actually take anything from who they have mated with.. why are they a species which mates? They must have a very confusing evolutionary history


Yes imo asari would work better not being monogendered. They could keep the melding though.

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D.Kain wrote...

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@D.Kain - Then you would choose the 3rd option, in my super awesome glimpse at what the choices could be when bumping into Morinth and her (Now freed) sisters:
1) Kill them all
2) Only kill Morinth, force sisters to go back
3) Let them go


But of course. Though an even better choice would be to help them find a good place in the galactic communtiy where they could do something useful and at the same time enjoy life. I think Shepard has enough authority to organise that.


Shepard has no time for turning three Ardat Yakshi into productive members of society (via Dr Phil of course), the Reapers are coming!

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Dunstan wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Dunstan wrote...

@D.Kain - Then you would choose the 3rd option, in my super awesome glimpse at what the choices could be when bumping into Morinth and her (Now freed) sisters:
1) Kill them all
2) Only kill Morinth, force sisters to go back
3) Let them go


But of course. Though an even better choice would be to help them find a good place in the galactic communtiy where they could do something useful and at the same time enjoy life. I think Shepard has enough authority to organise that.


Shepard has no time for turning three Ardat Yakshi into productive members of society (via Dr Phil of course), the Reapers are coming!


Well then I will just take their phone number, and get back to them later. 

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TobyHasEyes wrote...

 Except that there is no such thing as a genetic destiny

 What strikes me as odd with the Asari is that if in reproducing they don't actually take anything from who they have mated with.. why are they a species which mates? They must have a very confusing evolutionary history


Probably because they were a sexually-reproducing species not too long ago (on evolutionary timescales).  There's actually real-world precedent for such mating behaviors (minus the telepathy aspects, of course):

"Sexual" behavior in parthenogenetic lizards
Behavioral facilitation of reproduction in sexual and unisexual whiptail lizards

Modifié par didymos1120, 03 octobre 2011 - 11:50 .


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Wow, over 20 pages since I stopped reading last night.

All this crap over an open and shut case of a rapemurdering monster.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 03 octobre 2011 - 01:11 .


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D.Kain wrote...

That is the biggest problem of the modern society. They don't listen to minorities and there are a LOT of different minoreties in different aspects that are being pissed off. If people would think about minoreties everything would be better.


LoL. 

Modern society listens to minorities more than anyone ever has anywhere. 

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D.Kain wrote...

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D.Kain wrote...

I actually like how people are saying that being an outcast is not an ex[c]use to kill people. I wonder why do you hate this ex[c]use? 


Probably because it's sheer nonsense.  People being mean to you does not justify murder. 


It does! Again how hard is it to not be mean?? You want to be mean so bad that you hate a person that responded to in a bad way. If she was treated fair it wouldn't happen.


How hard is it not to shoot someone? 

And if someone is "mean" to you, you respond to that person, not random innocent strangers.   Taking it out on people who had nothing to do with it makes you at least as bad as the person doing it to you. 

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D.Kain wrote...

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I think I said this before, but I'll say it again: Morinth does not feel empathy. She feels no remorse or regret for the people she's killed. If you dropped her in some random asari city instead of offering her the usual choice, she would have still killed people.


Not in the beginning she wouldn't. NOW she is cold because she wasn't shown love.


"Because she wasn't shown love." 

First of all, what kind of rediculous hippy-dippy crystal-thumping pop-psych crap have you been reading? 

Second, what gives you the idea that she wasn't loved and cared for for the first 40 years of her life? 

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Well if I remember correctly there were student that were so pissed off that they took guns and started to shoot their fellow student. You want to blame them or the bully's that drove them to such horrible acts? 


The bullies were pieces of crap. 

However, if the two students in question wanted any sympathy from me, they should have directed their rage at their tormentors, not random people who had nothing to do with it. 

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And again why would she TRY to act nice to other people if she wasn't treated nice, but instead given a choice of death or something worse.


Because most (or all) of her victims were just random people who had nothing to do with her condition or her choice to run or her being hunted. 

Nef pretty much defines the innocent random victim, snuffed out before she could realize her potential, because Morinth found her "tasty". 

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D.Kain wrote...

 Ah here it is, for those that still don't understand: 

(Morinth didn't want to kill Shepard.)



Bull$#!+.