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[D.Kain]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

You can't say "Oh those people deserved it", and then use weasel words like "but that's just my opinion".

And that is because?

[Killjoy Cutter]

D.Kain wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

You can't say "Oh those people deserved it", and then use weasel words like "but that's just my opinion".

And that is because?

You said it.  Either stand by it and face the response to having said it, or step away from it and say you were mistaken. 

[D.Kain]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

You can't say "Oh those people deserved it", and then use weasel words like "but that's just my opinion".

And that is because?

You said it.  Either stand by it and face the response to having said it, or step away from it and say you were mistaken. 

The truth is don't know. I don't know how people treated Morinth, so I can't say that they were innocent. I know a little more about Nef, she went into a dark club and used drugs, that is asking for trouble. I also know that in order to get Morinth's attention Shepard has to act bad in the club, aka punching people or being a badass with a big mouth. 

So really don't know what kind of people Morinth is targeting. If she is targeting people like how my Shepard behaved, than it's not so bad. Nef doesn't seem innocent too, village I don't know.

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D.Kain wrote...
The truth is don't know. I don't know how people treated Morinth, so I can't say that they were innocent. I know a little more about Nef, she went into a dark club and used drugs, that is asking for trouble. I also know that in order to get Morinth's attention Shepard has to act bad in the club, aka punching people or being a badass with a big mouth. 

So really don't know what kind of people Morinth is targeting. If she is targeting people like how my Shepard behaved, than it's not so bad. Nef doesn't seem innocent too, village I don't know.

How does Nef not seem innocent to you? She is a shy isolated girl who likes art and doesn't have many friends.

Morinth likes shy isolated people with a spark. Artists like that are her thing. She also likes strength and power in other and herself. Morinth basically likes the bad boy/girl or the innocent and shy boy/girl. The game was very specific.

[Killjoy Cutter]

That's kinda funny, Kain. First you say it's OK for Morinth to go on a multi-century rapemurder spree because of how you imagine her childhood to have been, but then you say that Nef, a young adult from a lower-income background in a place like Omega, deserved to be rapemurdered for what appears to have been a touch of experimental drug use and clubhopping.


And I'll have to check later tonight, but wasn't it Morinth that got her into Hallex to begin with? 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 03 octobre 2011 - 10:41 .

[D.Kain]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

That's kinda funny, Kain. First you say it's OK for Morinth to go on a multi-century rapemurder spree because of how you imagine her childhood to have been, but then you say that Nef, a young adult from a lower-income background in a place like Omega, deserved to be rapemurdered for what appears to have been a touch of experimental drug use and clubhopping.

Because these 2 things are not mutually exsclusive. 

I have posts in which I make assumptions. I have posts in which I have a solid ground. I have posts in which I put refference to the game. I have posts in which I express my opinion on what something meant. 

I am a human and I post alot of different things. Sorry if my main idea isn't clear though. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 03 octobre 2011 - 10:43 .

[Xilizhra]

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

Who cares? She's already dead.

[D.Kain]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

Who cares? She's already dead.

What a good perspective. We need more thinking like that.

[dreman9999]

tonnactus wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

What, Nef being an artist wasn't enough? 
 

No,it wasnt. Part of the dialogue was about violence, power and danger. Such things. Not only art.Answer those wrong and you fail to gain her interest. Nef as a victim doesnt fit.

Wow...it like you know Nef in detail..... Could it be that Nef and Shepard are two different people and Mornith was attracted to different things with Shepard and Nef. With Nef she liked the passionate artist, and she Shepard she loved the strong soldier.

[dreman9999]

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

I already made that point. For Mornith to be with people and not murder them with sex, she would have to give up intimancy.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

That's kinda funny, Kain. First you say it's OK for Morinth to go on a multi-century rapemurder spree because of how you imagine her childhood to have been, but then you say that Nef, a young adult from a lower-income background in a place like Omega, deserved to be rapemurdered for what appears to have been a touch of experimental drug use and clubhopping.


And I'll have to check later tonight, but wasn't it Morinth that got her into Hallex to begin with? 

Yes, she did push Nef to drugs.

[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

What, Nef being an artist wasn't enough? 
 

No,it wasnt. Part of the dialogue was about violence, power and danger. Such things. Not only art.Answer those wrong and you fail to gain her interest. Nef as a victim doesnt fit.

Wow...it like you know Nef in detail..... Could it be that Nef and Shepard are two different people and Mornith was attracted to different things with Shepard and Nef. With Nef she liked the passionate artist, and she Shepard she loved the strong soldier.

We don't know enough really. You just believe what seems right.

[Xilizhra]

D.Kain wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

Who cares? She's already dead.

What a good perspective. We need more thinking like that.

Noted. But it's also an important sign that similarly innocent people could be killed in the future if Morinth isn't properly handled, if she does survive.

[D.Kain]

Xilizhra wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

Who cares? She's already dead.

What a good perspective. We need more thinking like that.

Noted. But it's also an important sign that similarly innocent people could be killed in the future if Morinth isn't properly handled, if she does survive.

I have all the intentions of turning her into a productive member of the society, right after we slaughter those that gave her the stupid choice in the begining of her AY life.

Oh and I still want to know what happens when 2 AY mate. :happy:

[Xilizhra]

Ultimately, I decided it wasn't really in my Shepard's character to kill Samara after all. She'd have saved Morinth in a heartbeat if it didn't involve that, though.

[D.Kain]

Xilizhra wrote...

Ultimately, I decided it wasn't really in my Shepard's character to kill Samara after all. She'd have saved Morinth in a heartbeat if it didn't involve that, though.

Saved her from what?

[Kaiser Shepard]

D.Kain wrote...

What a good perspective. We need more thinking like that.

I know, that's what I always tell Xili when she comes with that argument as well. 

[Xilizhra]

D.Kain wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Ultimately, I decided it wasn't really in my Shepard's character to kill Samara after all. She'd have saved Morinth in a heartbeat if it didn't involve that, though.

Saved her from what?

She would have been happy to get Morinth on the squad somehow. Whether she'd somehow get Samara off of it, I don't know... but in the end, while she'd have preferred to redeem Morinth, Samara's life was too high a price for the potential of that.

[D.Kain]

Xilizhra wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Ultimately, I decided it wasn't really in my Shepard's character to kill Samara after all. She'd have saved Morinth in a heartbeat if it didn't involve that, though.

Saved her from what?

She would have been happy to get Morinth on the squad somehow. Whether she'd somehow get Samara off of it, I don't know... but in the end, while she'd have preferred to redeem Morinth, Samara's life was too high a price for the potential of that.

Well then, Samara is going to be one proud ghost. 

[Xilizhra]

Your reply, I admit, baffles me.

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

I already made that point. For Mornith to be with people and not murder them with sex, she would have to give up intimancy.

It's not as hard as you think. 

[D.Kain]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Er, wait a minute. I haven't been following this for a while, but regardless of Morinth's mental state, how much of this was truly her own fault, how bad the current narrative is, etc, Nef definitely didn't deserve to die from it.

I already made that point. For Mornith to be with people and not murder them with sex, she would have to give up intimancy.

It's not as hard as you think. 

It shouldn't be if you are NICE to her.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain seems like the type that would throw a bucket full of kittens off a ledge one at a time to see if they'd all land on their feet.