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[MACharlie1]

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The fact that the only why you can choose to save Mornith is if you have a will too strong to be controled by Mornith. AKA.....why she can't mind rape you then is because she can't.

So what is stopping Morinth from killing Shepard or walking away or trying to torture him physically until he gives up and agrees to meld?

Because wheres the fun in that? 

Right. Dying is much more fun...

Well, according to your arguement - Morinth - if she wanted to meld with Shepard should have just tortured him until they meld. Morinth isn't so...rushed. She likes the game - she likes the hunt. She herself makes this clear when you go back to her apartment. 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 04 octobre 2011 - 01:27 .

[D.Kain]

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The fact that the only why you can choose to save Mornith is if you have a will too strong to be controled by Mornith. AKA.....why she can't mind rape you then is because she can't.

So what is stopping Morinth from killing Shepard or walking away or trying to torture him physically until he gives up and agrees to meld?

Because wheres the fun in that? 

Right. Dying is much more fun...

Well, according to your arguement - Morinth - if she wanted to meld with Shepard should have just tortured him until they meld. Morinth isn't so...rushed. She likes the game - she likes the hunt. She herself makes this clear when you go back to her apartment. 

Well then WAIT damnit. Doing it on the ship is not the place nor the time. It is a death wish. Of the airlock she goes, thanks to EDI.

[dreman9999]

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...Yes, lest kill all the mages who run from the circle because they may do blood magic, summon demons and maybe get possessed and kill people.

False comparison. All AY are in a way already blood mages at the start (in ability not morality). They probably kill AY who actually kill others. If Morinth actually wanted to abstain she could have stayed off the grid. Samara was tracking her through her kills. Also it seems that some mages aren't killed when the escape from certain  circles.

No...It's spot on. I'm look at the crime they may do...not what they are. AY on the run are not the same as blood mages...Why? Because being a blood mage is a crime, not being an AY. The only crime an AY would be hunted for is killing by gross neglect. The thing that would make them equal to blood mages is just them killing with sex. You that if she sayed abstain she would not be hunted...Then that's my point....

The main reason why Blood mages are dangerous is because they can influence the mind of anyone including kings. AY are exactly the same. That is the reason being a blood mage is a crime and its the main reason why an AY using her abilities is a crime. The time a AY uses her ability makes her the Mass effect equivalent of a Blood mage in mind control abilities.

If that is your original point then why use the Blood mage comparison? The only time AY are the same as Blood Mages is when they use there ability which kills someone and helps them use there mind control abilities. Blood mages are hunted for the exact same things.

No, the main reason being a blood mageis because the chartary villinised them with the story of the black city....Say..."Blood magic started the blights."
Blood magic is just like any weapon, it's the person who kill not the tool. And any tool can be dangerous. The blood mage law is an over reaction. The case with the AY is that they run they are chased....If they kill after they run, they are hunted. If they don't kill, know one can find them anyway.

[D.Kain]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Good Lord, this thing is still alive? I thought it died. And I see that you returned, D.Kain.

And D.Kain., you ignored Killjoy Cutter's statement up there. He/she has a point.

Which one? I'm lost sorry. 

[dreman9999]

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The fact that the only why you can choose to save Mornith is if you have a will too strong to be controled by Mornith. AKA.....why she can't mind rape you then is because she can't.

So what is stopping Morinth from killing Shepard or walking away or trying to torture him physically until he gives up and agrees to meld?

Because wheres the fun in that? 

Right. Dying is much more fun...

Well, according to your arguement - Morinth - if she wanted to meld with Shepard should have just tortured him until they meld. Morinth isn't so...rushed. She likes the game - she likes the hunt. She herself makes this clear when you go back to her apartment. 

More of a fact that she just fought some one to the death, is too tried o fight, and the person she wants is a bio-syntentic moded Commander Shepard.....

[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The fact that the only why you can choose to save Mornith is if you have a will too strong to be controled by Mornith. AKA.....why she can't mind rape you then is because she can't.

So what is stopping Morinth from killing Shepard or walking away or trying to torture him physically until he gives up and agrees to meld?

Because wheres the fun in that? 

Right. Dying is much more fun...

Well, according to your arguement - Morinth - if she wanted to meld with Shepard should have just tortured him until they meld. Morinth isn't so...rushed. She likes the game - she likes the hunt. She herself makes this clear when you go back to her apartment. 

More of a fact that she just fought some one to the death, is too tried o fight, and the person she wants is a bio-syntentic moded Commander Shepard.....

Too tired to fight a person that isn't even armed? How weak do you think Morinth is? She also was a successfull buble babe, her stamina is just fine.

[1136342t54_]

dreman9999 wrote...
No, the main reason being a blood mageis because the chartary villinised them with the story of the black city....Say..."Blood magic started the blights."
Blood magic is just like any weapon, it's the person who kill not the tool. And any tool can be dangerous. The blood mage law is an over reaction. The case with the AY is that they run they are chased....If they kill after they run, they are hunted. If they don't kill, know one can find them anyway.

I'm getting my info about the Blood mage capability from both the Codex and Templars. The Templars knows the power and ability of Blood mages. Cullen specifically tells you the reasons why they are so dangerous. They are villainised of course but they are villainised to prevent people from every trying to be a blood mage. Remember the practical reasons for going after them are right.

Also you forget Blood Magic is acquired through demons most of the time if not all. That is another reason why they go after Blood mages. Blood Mages do very dangerous things to get there ability and very few can get off scot clean from dealing with demons for the power. Blood Mages aren't inherently bad but there power should be illegal simply because its like letting a small group of people run away with mind control. There abilities are not hyperbole since we see them use it many times in game. 

Samara seems to believe that Morinth left to keep killing. It is likely Morinth had killed after she left Thessia. With AY when they kill they will keep killing. After that they must be killed no matter what.

[D.Kain]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

I really hope you're just stupid.
Because the alternative is that you really are completely messed up.

Oh drop these words already. I said plenty of times. I am a nice person. The fact that you don't SEE that I actually want to fix things doesn't mean that I don't.

The problem is that you think everyone can be fixed, everyone can be saved, and that no one does bad things of their own accord. 

The best you can do is try. Saying it can't be fixed and sit on your ass or taking care of only short term problems without fixing those problems reason is not going to do anything good.

[dreman9999]

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No, the main reason being a blood mageis because the chartary villinised them with the story of the black city....Say..."Blood magic started the blights."
Blood magic is just like any weapon, it's the person who kill not the tool. And any tool can be dangerous. The blood mage law is an over reaction. The case with the AY is that they run they are chased....If they kill after they run, they are hunted. If they don't kill, know one can find them anyway.

I'm getting my info about the Blood mage capability from both the Codex and Templars. The Templars knows the power and ability of Blood mages. Cullen specifically tells you the reasons why they are so dangerous. They are villainised of course but they are villainised to prevent people from every trying to be a blood mage. Remember the practical reasons for going after them are right.

Also you forget Blood Magic is acquired through demons most of the time if not all. That is another reason why they go after Blood mages. Blood Mages do very dangerous things to get there ability and very few can get off scot clean from dealing with demons for the power. Blood Mages aren't inherently bad but there power should be illegal simply because its like letting a small group of people run away with mind control. There abilities are not hyperbole since we see them use it many times in game. 

Samara seems to believe that Morinth left to keep killing. It is likely Morinth had killed after she left Thessia. With AY when they kill they will keep killing. After that they must be killed no matter what.

So what. Blood magic was not made illegal ontil years after the first blight. Yes, it dangerous, but anything can kill yo ujust the same.

As for Samara hunt Mornith...She was only able to find her because Mornith kill agein.....If she did not....She would not be fould.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No, the main reason being a blood mageis because the chartary villinised them with the story of the black city....Say..."Blood magic started the blights."
Blood magic is just like any weapon, it's the person who kill not the tool. And any tool can be dangerous. The blood mage law is an over reaction. The case with the AY is that they run they are chased....If they kill after they run, they are hunted. If they don't kill, know one can find them anyway.

I'm getting my info about the Blood mage capability from both the Codex and Templars. The Templars knows the power and ability of Blood mages. Cullen specifically tells you the reasons why they are so dangerous. They are villainised of course but they are villainised to prevent people from every trying to be a blood mage. Remember the practical reasons for going after them are right.

Also you forget Blood Magic is acquired through demons most of the time if not all. That is another reason why they go after Blood mages. Blood Mages do very dangerous things to get there ability and very few can get off scot clean from dealing with demons for the power. Blood Mages aren't inherently bad but there power should be illegal simply because its like letting a small group of people run away with mind control. There abilities are not hyperbole since we see them use it many times in game. 

Samara seems to believe that Morinth left to keep killing. It is likely Morinth had killed after she left Thessia. With AY when they kill they will keep killing. After that they must be killed no matter what.

You are listening for advice on blood mages from templars... genious... Blood mages are no worse then the ordinary mages, most of the cases they go bad is when they are being hunted by the templars. 

[D.Kain]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You don't fix an accoholic by leaving him out where he can go to any bar he wants any time he wants. You don't *fix* a crackhead by making sure he drives by the person he used to get his stuff from every day. Morinth is worse; for her it's literally EVERY person.

People usually don't become alcoholics if they had a happy childhood and such..

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You don't fix an accoholic by leaving him out where he can go to any bar he wants any time he wants. You don't *fix* a crackhead by making sure he drives by the person he used to get his stuff from every day. Morinth is worse; for her it's literally EVERY person.

People usually don't become alcoholics if they had a happy childhood and such..

Really?
I was going to leave but this one comment drew me back with its sheer naive lunacy.

My brother had an exeedingly happy childhood, he still ended up a broken down drunk.

Don't presume things about human nature that you obviously have no idea about.

[D.Kain]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You're kidding, blood mages get their power from KILLING PEOPLE, and from making deals with demons in the Fade, who if you recall all hate the normal world and want to destroy it as best they can. But we're getting off-topic.

No they get their power from hurting themselves and there is nothing wrong with making deals, one just has to know what he is doing. I played a blood mage and made quite a few deals, I didn't go on a rampage nor did I sacrafice others to fuel my magic, unless it was enemies. 

[1136342t54_]

dreman9999 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No, the main reason being a blood mageis because the chartary villinised them with the story of the black city....Say..."Blood magic started the blights."
Blood magic is just like any weapon, it's the person who kill not the tool. And any tool can be dangerous. The blood mage law is an over reaction. The case with the AY is that they run they are chased....If they kill after they run, they are hunted. If they don't kill, know one can find them anyway.

I'm getting my info about the Blood mage capability from both the Codex and Templars. The Templars knows the power and ability of Blood mages. Cullen specifically tells you the reasons why they are so dangerous. They are villainised of course but they are villainised to prevent people from every trying to be a blood mage. Remember the practical reasons for going after them are right.

Also you forget Blood Magic is acquired through demons most of the time if not all. That is another reason why they go after Blood mages. Blood Mages do very dangerous things to get there ability and very few can get off scot clean from dealing with demons for the power. Blood Mages aren't inherently bad but there power should be illegal simply because its like letting a small group of people run away with mind control. There abilities are not hyperbole since we see them use it many times in game. 

Samara seems to believe that Morinth left to keep killing. It is likely Morinth had killed after she left Thessia. With AY when they kill they will keep killing. After that they must be killed no matter what.

So what. Blood magic was not made illegal ontil years after the first blight. Yes, it dangerous, but anything can kill yo ujust the same.

As for Samara hunt Mornith...She was only able to find her because Mornith kill agein.....If she did not....She would not be fould.

Blood magic can basically take away free will of anyone and you have to deal with demons to become a blood mage. Seriously I listed mutliple reasons why its very dangerous and I seem to have to repeat myself. Hell if a blood mage existed today he could theoretically get past secret service at the white house and hold the president hostage by using the secret service as mind controlled thralls. 

Yes but Morinth didn't just not kill she kept killing showing that she ran away solely to keep killing and it took a Justicar allying with a Spectre to kill her. Morinth is an example of what happens when a AY goes bad. Now think about what would happen if Morinth actually wanted to do some damage to the Asari or any other race in Citadel Space? Morinth is one AY running loose and killing. She doesn't even have any other aspirations other than killing. Morinth has no ambition but it took centuries to kill her. More than one AY loose can cause a lot of problems that the Asari couldn't contain unless they bring Spectres into it. At that point  the situation is out of control.

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

No they get their power from hurting themselves and there is nothing wrong with making deals, one just has to know what he is doing. I played a blood mage and made quite a few deals, I didn't go on a rampage nor did I sacrafice others to fuel my magic, unless it was enemies. 

Actually your half wrong. Blood mages CAN hurt themselves for power but they also kill other for power. 

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...


Really?
I was going to leave but this one comment drew me back with its sheer naive lunacy.

My brother had an exeedingly happy childhood, he still ended up a broken down drunk.

Don't presume things about human nature that you obviously have no idea about.

So whos fault is that? I mean is it completely ok? There was nothing that could be done? It just happened?

[dreman9999]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No, the main reason being a blood mageis because the chartary villinised them with the story of the black city....Say..."Blood magic started the blights."
Blood magic is just like any weapon, it's the person who kill not the tool. And any tool can be dangerous. The blood mage law is an over reaction. The case with the AY is that they run they are chased....If they kill after they run, they are hunted. If they don't kill, know one can find them anyway.

I'm getting my info about the Blood mage capability from both the Codex and Templars. The Templars knows the power and ability of Blood mages. Cullen specifically tells you the reasons why they are so dangerous. They are villainised of course but they are villainised to prevent people from every trying to be a blood mage. Remember the practical reasons for going after them are right.

Also you forget Blood Magic is acquired through demons most of the time if not all. That is another reason why they go after Blood mages. Blood Mages do very dangerous things to get there ability and very few can get off scot clean from dealing with demons for the power. Blood Mages aren't inherently bad but there power should be illegal simply because its like letting a small group of people run away with mind control. There abilities are not hyperbole since we see them use it many times in game. 

Samara seems to believe that Morinth left to keep killing. It is likely Morinth had killed after she left Thessia. With AY when they kill they will keep killing. After that they must be killed no matter what.

You are listening for advice on blood mages from templars... genious... Blood mages are no worse then the ordinary mages, most of the cases they go bad is when they are being hunted by the templars. 

You're kidding, blood mages get their power from KILLING PEOPLE, and from making deals with demons in the Fade, who if you recall all hate the normal world and want to destroy it as best they can. But we're getting off-topic.

No, they get the power from blood....Most case their own. They can get more power from killing people, but they don't need to. The most basic magic they use their own blood.

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...
You are listening for advice on blood mages from templars... genious... Blood mages are no worse then the ordinary mages, most of the cases they go bad is when they are being hunted by the templars. 

Are you retarded? Even Anders don't like Blood magic and believe they are very dangerous. That is the same person who has a freaking half demon spirit inside of him.

Some of the most powerful mages you fight are blood mages. They are also the most dangerous.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 04 octobre 2011 - 01:52 .

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

No they get their power from hurting themselves and there is nothing wrong with making deals, one just has to know what he is doing. I played a blood mage and made quite a few deals, I didn't go on a rampage nor did I sacrafice others to fuel my magic, unless it was enemies. 

Actually your half wrong. Blood mages CAN hurt themselves for power but they also kill other for power. 

Talking about replying to specific sentences. 

But I said that I played a blood mage and didn't do that, nor did I appreciate anyone do that.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...


Really?
I was going to leave but this one comment drew me back with its sheer naive lunacy.

My brother had an exeedingly happy childhood, he still ended up a broken down drunk.

Don't presume things about human nature that you obviously have no idea about.

So whos fault is that? I mean is it completely ok? There was nothing that could be done? It just happened?

Yes. Believe it or not bad things can and do happen for no reason.


Don't presume to know human nature. Because you obviously don't.