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Tevinter or Orlais?


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Both places are very interesting. I am sure we will see Orlais soon cause of the storyline

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May be the Orlais accent wouldn't grate so much if it wasn't so artificial. The French accent can be really sexy if done by the right person (proper French person would help). Anyway it doesn't have to be exclusively French accents as I presume there are plenty of other nationalities visiting the biggest city in Thedas and out in the Orlesian wilds who knows what you might run into.
May be there is going to be a new super threat but at first it only affects one part of Thedas (like the Blight but different protagonist) and rather like Origins the PC needs to travel around trying to get an alliance going and informing people of the danger but instead of going to different factions in one country, we will get to go to the seat of power in many. May be they will even manage it that the danger first shows in a different location depending on the origin you choose for your PC, so you could start off as Orlesian Chevalier/Warrior or Rogue, Tevinter Mage, Rivaini Wise Woman, Nevarran dragon hunter, etc, but from an outlying area so even your own capital city will be oblivious to the danger.

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Tevinter cause it seems alot more interesting than Orlais, plus the Orlais accent drives me insane.

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Tevinter, cause I want to slaughter every last mage in there.

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I'm interested in both, but all signs point to Orlais.

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Orlais. I need my feather boas and girly clothes.

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RagingCyclone wrote...

I would prefer Orlais. I am tired upon tired of dealing with mages after six runs of DA2. I want to see other aspects of Thedas besides the mages...there are other things surely.


The main focus on Tevinter would more likely be The Qunari - The Mage-Templar war may not even happen in Tevinter... Hope it does though
Dealing with mages is far more likely to happen in Orlais since that would be the focus of the mage-templar war..

Tevinter is run by mages but most of the worlds mages are in Orlais, The biggest circle in thedas is in Montsimmard and its also the centre of templar power.

The only way for it to be more Mage centralised if not in Orlais is to have a game focused entirely in Cumberland

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 28 septembre 2011 - 02:30 .


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Tevinter so I can see a million Fenris's running around - glistening.

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Aren't some of the Orleasians actually played by french actors?

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Aren't some of the Orleasians actually played by french actors?


Leliana is. 

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What about Riordin and all his uh "brothers"?

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XxDeonxX wrote...

RagingCyclone wrote...

I would prefer Orlais. I am tired upon tired of dealing with mages after six runs of DA2. I want to see other aspects of Thedas besides the mages...there are other things surely.


The main focus on Tevinter would more likely be The Qunari - The Mage-Templar war may not even happen in Tevinter... Hope it does though
Dealing with mages is far more likely to happen in Orlais since that would be the focus of the mage-templar war..

Tevinter is run by mages but most of the worlds mages are in Orlais, The biggest circle in thedas is in Montsimmard and its also the centre of templar power.

The only way for it to be more Mage centralised if not in Orlais is to have a game focused entirely in Cumberland


Yeah, the Mage War will likely be the plot of the next game. There's no avoiding it. DA2 left it hanging, we've seen its beginning and there's no end in sight. So it's likely to dominate the entire next game's storyline.

At least until something comes and unites them against a greater foe (Corypheus/Qunari).

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The thing about the war is...there won't be large battlefields with army against army. It will most likely be guerilla warfare...and that can be mostly heard about than participated in if the devs so choose. I don't assume we have to be the middle of the war just because Hawke was. ;)

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Does Tevinter use its own language as standard? That's my main concern with visiting foreign nations, that everyone will either be inexplicably speaking "common" (ie the game language), like Orzammar (though that may just be because it was a trading city and they took to speaking it for convenience); or we'll get some bizarre 'Allo 'Allo system where accents denote language, which would be hilarious, but still not ideal..

If Tevinters are meant to primarily speak their own language (which would be nice) then I'd rather not go there, just because they'll probably all end up speaking english and I'll be disappointed, or it'll be a return to the days of Tho Fan which was just annoying. Basically, if I'm the one speaking the foreign language I want it to feel like that, but just hearing jibberish and having to read the dialogue quickly before it moves on (or having to manually move the conversation along after each line) isn't fun. But as far as I know Orlais doesn't have its own unique language, which side-steps the whole issue nicely.

Otherwise I don't really have a preference, they both seem interesting enough to be good settings and they're both relevant to the mage-templar conflict.

Modifié par nerdage, 29 septembre 2011 - 06:49 .


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nerdage wrote...

Does Tevinter use its own language as standard? That's my main concern with visiting foreign nations, that everyone will either be inexplicably speaking "common" (ie the game language), like Orzammar (though that may just be because it was a trading city and they took to speaking it for convenience); or we'll get some bizarre 'Allo 'Allo system where accents denote language, which would be hilarious, but still not ideal..

If Tevinters are meant to primarily speak their own language (which would be nice) then I'd rather not go there, just because they'll probably all end up speaking english and I'll be disappointed, or it'll be a return to the days of Tho Fan which was just annoying. Basically, if I'm the one speaking the foreign language I want it to feel like that, but just hearing jibberish and having to read the dialogue quickly before it moves on (or having to manually move the conversation along after each line) isn't fun. But as far as I know Orlais doesn't have its own unique language, which side-steps the whole issue nicely.

Otherwise I don't really have a preference, they both seem interesting enough to be good settings and they're both relevant to the mage-templar conflict.


They have their own language, different calender and names for days and months and words they use in sentence but its about to the level of qunari - Mainly speaking english and throwing in a few Tevinter words every now and then.. But as for accent no they dont seem to have one. We met Tevinters in Origins in the alienage and they spoke with the same accent the people in ferelden do, not having a strong foreign accent. Same with the slavers in DA2 and Fenris as well.

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RagingCyclone wrote...

The thing about the war is...there won't be large battlefields with army against army. It will most likely be guerilla warfare...and that can be mostly heard about than participated in if the devs so choose. I don't assume we have to be the middle of the war just because Hawke was. ;)


Unlikely, it effects all of thedas and as Varric said - "Put the entire world on the brink of war"

People will take sides. e.g. Nevarra being bitter enemies with Orlais will want to weaken their position and see siding with the mages and weakening the chantry as doing so - That and they house Cumberland the mage centre of thedas - Nevarra sides with mages.

Ferelden - Alistair has expressed he doesn't like what the chantry does about the mages and is protecting some, His mother is a mage (although he doesn't know that yet) The foundations of ferelden were its founding by both Calenhad and his primary advisor and helper the mage (whose name I cant recall at the moment Aldenon or something I think) and the circle of magi. - Ferelden sides with the mages

Orlais - Focus of Templar and chantry power in thedas, their politics closely intwined with the chantry being founded by an Orlesian emperor and the chantry supporting many Orlesian invasions of other nations - Orlais sides with the chantry and/or templars.

Anderfels - Very dedicated Andrastian people, will side with the chantry whichever stance they take

These are just possible examples of how nations will very likely get involved in this war. Its likely not really to be Geurilla warfare but each side getting the backing of nations that will then go to war with each other.

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Varric also says the Chantry has fallen apart, so I suspect "The Chantry" isn't going to be just one side in the war. Some of the fractured pieces of it may be, but I doubt it's going to be as simple as mages and national rulers rebelling against the Chantry. Andrastianism is the dominant religion in every human nation in the world except Rivain, I'd think it will take more than being political enemies with Orlais to remove Chantry influence from all the countries.

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XxDeonxX--you are assuming a lot of facts not in evidence. As Gaider said last week DA3 if anything could be said to be in the very very early stages...so assuming the war will still be a focus...or as widespread as you may think...is still too early to tell. But opinions can vary and most likely we'll know in 2013. ;)

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I imagine it will be in Orlais, but I'd rather have Tevinter. The culture seems very different to Ferelden and Kirkwall, and I'd like to see something completely fresh. So far, Orlais sounds rather similar to what we've seen, but with ribbons and perfume slapped on.

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I'm not sure why Orlais is so commonly believed to be the location for a Daragon Age 3. As far as I can tell it seems to have stemmed mostly from Bohdan's comments about where he and Sandal are going next. Is that all that points to Orlais?

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I've always wanted to go to Orlais! I do remember an epilogue which says that Morrigan was in Orlais... this is if you didn't do the ritual though. I found it very interesting. This is the epilogue:

Morrigan leaves the party the night before the final battle when the Warden refuses her offer. She is later seen traveling through the Frostback Mountains alone. Several years later, tales out of Orlais said that a strange dark-haired mage had insinuated herself into the empress's court.

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Both, maybe? But if I had to choose... Orlais. :)

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I'm not sure why Orlais is so commonly believed to be the location for a Daragon Age 3. As far as I can tell it seems to have stemmed mostly from Bohdan's comments about where he and Sandal are going next. Is that all that points to Orlais?


In the quest "King Alistair", Alistair states that Ferelden has been having trouble with Orlais recently, that some Orlesian nobles have been scheming to get Fereldan provinces back despite Empress Celene's objection. Also, the Grand Cathedral, the seat of the White Divine, is in Val Royeaux, and with the imment collapse of the Chantry, it seems like a great place for DA3 to be set...

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But the Chantry exists everywhere, it doesn't necessarily mean we'll be going to it's seat of power. And Alister mentioning that there are future story threads involving Orlais and Ferelden doesn't mean we'll be going back there either. How is it any different from Fenris mentioning the ongoing war between the Qunari and the Tevinter Imperium? With the Arishok's promise to return and so forth we could be going north. Or with whatever is happening with the darkspawn and Corypheus, would could be going to the Anderfels or something.

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Tevinter is one of the most important places in the Thedas, both historically and currently. It has ties to just about everything in Thedas' history. It's engaged in war with the Qunari. It's a fairly exotic culture in contrast to say Orlais, Ferelden, or any other "White Chantry" state. It's a place where there's still slavery, and where the status quo of Dragon Age is really backwards what with mages being the ones in power. Tevinter has a lot of potential, and very interesting. The only thing more foreign and unique than Tevinter is the Qunari, and I think they'd have a big role in a game which took place in the Imperium.

However, I think DA3 will be in Orlais, regardless of my preference. I believe Sandal being in Orlais is the deal-maker along with Orlais probably being a more important place than usual what with the events post-DA2, and then there's also all the Orlais-referencing DLC - some of the gear and MotA.

Modifié par Rojahar, 02 octobre 2011 - 02:53 .