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[Dane Seagal]

Any surefire way to know when the IFF is installed and the Normandy abduction is triggered? I always left acquiring the IFF towards the end because I want to do all loyalty missions and save everyone; when the Collectors have taken the crew there's only 1 (or none?) sidequest/loyalty mission you can do before people start dying. But getting the IFF late means you'll get Legion late, and I'd like to have a run where he's in my squad for most of the game. So is the activation random or can it be planned out?

[WolfForce99]

The IFF mission is before the Normandy Attacked mission. When you activate the IFF, that is when the Normandy Attacked mission starts. So you can activate Legion before the Normandy Attacked mission.

[spartacusthegod]

Something I noticed (not confirmed or anything, I could be wrong) is that if you don't ever go and talk to a squadmate to get their loyalty quest, then the Normandy doesn't get attacked.

Make sure you activate Legion though. Him being shut down and Grunt being in the pod don't count as squadmates whose quests you haven't gotten yet. You always have time to do at least one quest between activating him and when he gives you his quest, and you will always have time to do his quest.

I believe you can do only one mission after the Normandy gets attacked, every mission after that (except for going to hub worlds or the Shadow Broker's ship) will have people dying. I'm pretty sure if you did 2 or 3 missions, half the crew would die, or if it was more than 3 everyone but Chakwas dies.

[Dane Seagal]

I just want to know how I can trick the game into holding off abduction-sequence. I want to use Legion in loyalty missions of other team members. But if the damn IFF is installed before I get all those missions done then people (squadmates/abductees) will die and I prefer to avoid that.

Modifié par Dane Seagal, 27 septembre 2011 - 04:59 .

[didymos1120]

Dane Seagal wrote...

I just want to know how I can trick the game into holding off abduction-sequence. 

You can't. As soon as you get Legion, the IFF installation will be triggered within a couple of missions, unless you've already done them all, in which case you can only delay it by one by immediately talking to Legion and getting that loyalty mission. 

[Siegdrifa]

didymos1120 wrote...

Dane Seagal wrote...

I just want to know how I can trick the game into holding off abduction-sequence. 

You can't. As soon as you get Legion, the IFF installation will be triggered within a couple of missions, unless you've already done them all, in which case you can only delay it by one by immediately talking to Legion and getting that loyalty mission. 

Yup, personnaly i always keep Tali's mission for the end, so i can bring along Legion.
The longer you wait when the abduction is trigered, the more crew member you will loose.
I wish Bioware had released a patch letting use enjoy Legion a lot more in the game without loosing crew member, he is one of my favorite character in the game.

[Quething]

Dane Seagal wrote...

I just want to know how I can trick the game into holding off abduction-sequence. I want to use Legion in loyalty missions of other team members. But if the damn IFF is installed before I get all those missions done then people (squadmates/abductees) will die and I prefer to avoid that.

You can do this, but you've got to hex edit your save game (so you'll need to be an Xbox or PC player). It's complicated, but there are instructions on the BSN somewhere. Gimmie a minute, I'll go see if I can dig up the thread.

(You can also just use Gibbed to add Legion to your team early without doing the IFF mission, but you won't trigger his mission or any of his dialog in that case, he'll just consensus at you until you get around to the Derelict Reaper).

[Quething]

Okay, couldn't find the post, but here's a quick overview. You will need a hex editor, and the most recent copy of the Gibbed save editor.

You'll need to play the Derelict Reaper mission, activate Legion, then save your game. Probably best to make a backup of this save and stick it somewhere safe.

Now open the save in your hex editor. Do a text search for the line "None" (no quotes). You should find a whole bunch of them. The one you want is the last one in the file.

Now highlight the N, and skip forward A6 bytes (or 166 blocks, in decimal format). If you have no DLC at all, you'll land on a byte with the value of 01. If you have patches and all DLC through Arrival, it will be 19. Whatever value it has, subtract 1 (so, 00, or 18).

Write down the bit sequence around it, particularly the three bytes after it, somewhere where you won't lose it, so that you can easily find it again (the save file will tend to rearrange itself as you play).

Save this modified file.

Now, open the save file with the Gibbed save editor. Under the "Raw" tab, scroll down until you find the ME2 plot variables. If you have Zaeed and Kasumi, you want the twelfth entry; otherwise, you want the 10th. Open it up and expand the list of variables, which should just be a list of integers. You'll see a 5. Delete the 5. Save the game.

When you want to restart the countdown, just reverse this process.

Modifié par Quething, 27 septembre 2011 - 08:50 .

[Dane Seagal]

Quething wrote...

Okay, couldn't find the post, but here's a quick overview. You will need a hex editor, and the most recent copy of the Gibbed save editor.

You'll need to play the Derelict Reaper mission, activate Legion, then save your game. Probably best to make a backup of this save and stick it somewhere safe.

Now open the save in your hex editor. Do a text search for the line "None" (no quotes). You should find a whole bunch of them. The one you want is the last one in the file.

Now highlight the N, and skip forward A6 bytes (or 166 blocks, in decimal format). If you have no DLC at all, you'll land on a byte with the value of 01. If you have patches and all DLC through Arrival, it will be 19. Whatever value it has, subtract 1 (so, 00, or 18).

Write down the bit sequence around it, particularly the three bytes after it, somewhere where you won't lose it, so that you can easily find it again (the save file will tend to rearrange itself as you play).

Save this modified file.

Now, open the save file with the Gibbed save editor. Under the "Raw" tab, scroll down until you find the ME2 plot variables. If you have Zaeed and Kasumi, you want the twelfth entry; otherwise, you want the 10th. Open it up and expand the list of variables, which should just be a list of integers. You'll see a 5. Delete the 5. Save the game.

When you want to restart the countdown, just reverse this process.

Many thanks! I'm not around to trying it yet, just want to know for when I get to it. Happyfuntimes with Legion coming soon.

[Evolution13]

Stupid question, don't you get an option to not plug the IFF in so you can put it off till you're ready?

[didymos1120]

Evolution13 wrote...

Stupid question, don't you get an option to not plug the IFF in so you can put it off till you're ready?

No, you don't.  Once you acquire Legion, Joker and EDI automatically start working on installing the IFF.

[Tonymac]

I'm not sure why Bioware decided to control the game so hard with the acquisition of Legion. I think he's a fun character to run with. I see no reason why they force most or all of the crew to die simply because we want to run with him in a few missions. I think its more of a slap in the face by the Devs than anything.

[Yezdigerd]

It even more annoying considering that he was meant to be recruited very early, and is fully voiced for all mission except Horizon.
I always Gibb him in after Freedom's progress, and remove him when doing the IFF mission.

[didymos1120]

Yezdigerd wrote...

It even more annoying considering that he was meant to be recruited very early, and is fully voiced for all mission except Horizon.

Well, not exactly.  None of the late-game squadmates have complete sets of dialogue for Mordin's recruitment except for Tali.  Legion only has one line, in fact: when you talk to the turian at the door that starts the mission.

[spartacusthegod]

didymos1120 wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

It even more annoying considering that he was meant to be recruited very early, and is fully voiced for all mission except Horizon.

Well, not exactly.  None of the late-game squadmates have complete sets of dialogue for Mordin's recruitment except for Tali.  Legion only has one line, in fact: when you talk to the turian at the door that starts the mission.

That means that the devs must have decided on the time you're going to recruit certain people by the time they were getting the voice clips together for Mordin's mission.  His recruitment must have been one of the last things they worked on as they were finalizing which characters can appear when, and who you're going to be able to recruit right away.

I hope that in ME3 though, you can choose to not have certain squadmates and just leave them behind, like what you could do with Zaeed on his loyalty mission if you saved the workers and got to Vido too late.  That might change the pace of things and let you get different squadmates earlier.

[J0HNL3I]

You can't delay it but you can click on the Omega 4 Relay to skip waiting (atleast on 360)

[RoseLegion]

Dane Seagal wrote...

Any surefire way to know when the IFF is installed and the Normandy abduction is triggered? I always left acquiring the IFF towards the end because I want to do all loyalty missions and save everyone; when the Collectors have taken the crew there's only 1 (or none?) sidequest/loyalty mission you can do before people start dying. But getting the IFF late means you'll get Legion late, and I'd like to have a run where he's in my squad for most of the game. So is the activation random or can it be planned out?

This thread: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/5855452
has the effects of events on the final mission, including that [spoilers] you lose half the crew if you do even 1-3 missions and all but the Doc if you do more than 3.  Only doing directy into the Omga-4 after the attack sequence (the one where you control Joker) will allow you to save all crewmembers.

I love to be able to accuess legion more fully as well, you do get to pick up any unplayed missions after your O4 run so even without edits you could have him along for many things if you playe it right (all DLC for example) but that still leaves him out of many plot events and has some other sub-optimal effects on the game (assuming you're building an implort save for ME3).

Hope that helps

Modifié par RoseLegion, 01 octobre 2011 - 09:41 .