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I think we should join the Reapers.


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#226
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SalsaDMA wrote...

The term 'free will' becomes in-suficient to handle the interactions between entities in a reaper due to the following things:
-They are asumed to be hyper inteligent as well as extremely technologically advanced, so their logic may be uncomprihensible to us (For a comparison, logic evaluations of a 21st century academic would be pretty incompriendible to practically any person in the 15th century).
-There are millions of entities within one reaper, so a singular voice between millions means very little by itself.
-The entities are communicating with each other in a form that is hard for us to grasp; In our terms they would be constantly communicating telepathically with each other, possibly being aware of each others thoughts as well.

It is not unfathomable under these conditions to experience behaviour from the reapers as there have been in the games and lore.

The point is that there is likely no individuality, and that it would be a form of existance that is completely alien.  I don't believe that being linked with a billion humans and knowing their thoughts would actually end in stability and in the end acceptance of their new "plane of existence' as superior to life as an actual human.  And if you are assuming one voice in a million is irrelevant, seems like even more reason why at least one person would not find reaperdom preferable.  Is there any self determination at all?

Sure Reapers are hyperadvanced and they might have Reaper logic, but being incorporated into a Reaper is clearly not anything akin to being human any longer and the argument that it would be totally great without any drawbacks doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

I think the whole concept of a subdued race embracing the beliefs of a Reaper if they retain nearly any of their identity or ability to make their own decisions is nonsensical.  At least for the races that actually resist them.  Which we have reason to believe was probably most if not all of the advanced races.

#227
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I think we should destroy the reapers and throw their remains into the sun. B)

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Marxman2 wrote...

I don't remember the Reapers offering us a choice...


You know, In their countless cycles.I wonder If they ever gave a choice.Im sure Harby was saying all sorts of bull during the artifact.By being spared you meant being turned into a Husk right lol.

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annihilator27 wrote...
You know, In their countless cycles.I wonder If they ever gave a choice.Im sure Harby was saying all sorts of bull during the artifact.By being spared you meant being turned into a Husk right lol.


Harbinger: We are benevolent and you have a choice.  Husk or goo?

Modifié par capn233, 29 septembre 2011 - 02:42 .


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^ We need that line said by a Harbi in shades.

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capn233 wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...
You know, In their countless cycles.I wonder If they ever gave a choice.Im sure Harby was saying all sorts of bull during the artifact.By being spared you meant being turned into a Husk right lol.


Harbinger: We are benevolent and you have a choice.  Husk or goo?


I can see It saying that, A**hole!!!

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I can see the appeal to collectivists. People who wish to shed singular concerns for the concerns of the many. I can see individualists preferring death to the "shorcut" to a goal they don't want that the reapers represent. Legion talks about the shortcut not being something the Geth want, the ultimate collectivist notion for them should be achieved on their own terms. I agree, if this is the end goal of the species, it should be achieved on humanities own terms.

Screw the Old Machines, I do this myself!

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Join the Reapers, Its the only way to survive.

#234
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F***,Stupid double posts.

Modifié par annihilator27, 05 octobre 2011 - 10:11 .


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I think we should destroy the reaper scum, as joining them will involve most of us being left for dead as mindless shells of our former selves.

#236
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Anyone who wants to join the Reapers this far into the story is not worthy of being a Shep.

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Maybe the Reapers can join us. If they're lucky, and Shep's in a good mood.

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Maybe the Reapers can join us. If they're lucky, and Shep's in a good mood.


I'd love to see that lol.Not only do we beat them,We somehow manage to get them to join us.

Modifié par annihilator27, 05 octobre 2011 - 11:16 .


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Marxman2 wrote...

I don't remember the Reapers offering us a choice...


Harbinger "did" during the Arrvial.The artifact fight.Husks im sure.

Modifié par annihilator27, 23 octobre 2011 - 09:28 .


#240
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**** the REapers in the Eye, I would never join the, so will not my Shep, Me and Shep we will ****ing annihilate the scum's.

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This tread reminds me of the guy in the Matrix.