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[Thompson family]

Saphra Deden wrote...


Why do you hate America?

Weak, SD. Very weak.

[Seboist]

TIM will become Space Moses when he parts the galactic sea of Reapers and delivers his people to the promised land.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

I'll remember that when my Spep is fighting off all his storm troopers.

Why do you hate America?

That didn't take long.

Well, it did, but still...

[Golden Owl]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Man, I always miss the great threads when they're jumpin'.

I'd say Paragon, of course, because that's my side. Everyone will say their preference.

That said, like someone said on the first page, both are extremes.

Exactly...Paragon is naive...Renegade is murderous....The betweens are the most sensible and realistic.

[Bad King]

Hard to say. Paragons potentially make the galaxy a much more dangerous place- they encourage curing the genophage (which will probably equal a few turian colonies being wiped out by asteroids again) and they also advocate sparing the rachni queen (also a dangerous proposition), and rewriting the geth heretics* (can we trust them?). However Renegades also make the galaxy rather dangerous mainly due to the deterioration between humanity and the other council races following the death of the council, and the collector base decision is a risk which may or may not backfire. But apart from them, most renegade options are less risky- destroy the genophage cure data, kill the rachni queen, destroy the geth heretics, kill Balak, kill Vido etc. which will probably lead to a safer galaxy in the long term.



*Although I consider this the renegade option really.

Modifié par Bad King, 28 septembre 2011 - 01:45 .

[Seboist]

Renegade has the potential to win favor with some aliens like with the Quarians for destroying the heretic geth or the Krogans for killing the Rachni, not that I expect it will be possible in-game mind you.

[Golden Owl]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Explain the betweens to me.

That could take all day...but basically making decisions on what makes the most tactical sense at the time, not just running a blue Vs red Shep....but really considering the pro's and con's for every decision....anyways that eventuated in a Paragade (leaning a little more towards neutral than paragon) for my go at it.

[Golden Owl]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

That could take all day...

The forum isn't going anywhere and you don't have to post it all at once. Take your time.

Golden Owl wrote...

...but basically making decisions on what makes the most tactical sense at the time, not just running a blue Vs red Shep....

Well sure, but then Renegade is consistently the most logical choice anyway. There are a few exceptions though. If the game permitted me a bit more freedom I'd have a few more Paragon points.

Saphra: The forum isn't going anywhere and you don't have to post it all at once. Take your time.

Owl: Busy day coming up....Bills day......But will send you a list of what I saw and why later.

Saphra: Well sure, but then Renegade is consistently the most logical choice anyway. There are a few exceptions though. If the game permitted me a bit more freedom I'd have a few more Paragon points.

Owl: As would I have a few more Renegade points if more freedom was offered.

[GodWood]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
How do you get this "harden Kaidan, soften Ashley" thing, anyway? I've never been able to do this. Do you have to be romancing them?.

Yes.

[Biotic Sage]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Explain the betweens to me.

I don't explain things to stupid people.


Nah, if you were asking me I'd answer, but it was someone else.

Karma'ed! haha

[Seboist]

GodWood wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...
How do you get this "harden Kaidan, soften Ashley" thing, anyway? I've never been able to do this. Do you have to be romancing them?.

Yes.

Shepard's magic penis or vagina work wonders on changing someone's outlook on the galaxy.

[Golden Owl]

Seboist wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...
How do you get this "harden Kaidan, soften Ashley" thing, anyway? I've never been able to do this. Do you have to be romancing them?.

Yes.

Shepard's magic penis or vagina work wonders on changing someone's outlook on the galaxy.

Your always so eloquent Seboist....

[Urazz]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well sure, but then Renegade is consistently the most logical choice anyway. There are a few exceptions though. If the game permitted me a bit more freedom I'd have a few more Paragon points.

I wouldn't say that,  The neutral option when available seems to be the most logical choice.  I.E. at the last battle of ME1 when you tell the 5th fleet to focus either on protecting the destiny ascension or focus on soveriegn.  The neutral option was the best logical choice.

While the renegade option did the same exact thing of focusing on soveriegn, the tone it was done in made it seem like a bad option, especially when it can affect how the next council is.  The neutral option just gets each race replacing their councilors and humanity leads them but the renegade version is an all human council.

Some options seem good regardless like destroying or keeping the collector base.  There are good reasons for doing both so neither one seems right or wrong.  If there was to be a neutral option it would probably be saving the base but giving it to the council/alliance instead of Cerberus which would seem the best option I think.

[Han Shot First]

There is no justification for destroying the Collector base.

Sure there is.

1. Cerberus can't be trusted with Reaper tech.

2. Cerberus can't hold the Collector Base against a Reaper counterattack.

3. Does long term exposure to tech within the base cause Reaper indoctrination?

4.. The Collectors aren't better equipped than the Reapers. Whatever weapons or armor tech that may have been truly useful on the Collector Base, was also likely to be on Sovereign and the Derelict Reaper. Unless you are planning on building a Reaper, the utility of the Base is exaggerated.

[Medhia Nox]

A Renegade makes a "safer" Earth in the short term - much like America has lived it's 235 plus years. But it does (or ought) to give Earth a far greater advantage in the future.

A Paragon makes the Universe safer in the long term - but will (or ought) to loose significantly in the short term.

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But on BSN - it's also known as: "Whichever I picked is the best option!"

[HogarthHughes 3]

Urazz wrote...
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While the renegade option did the same exact thing of focusing on soveriegn, the tone it was done in made it seem like a bad option, especially when it can affect how the next council is.  The neutral option just gets each race replacing their councilors and humanity leads them but the renegade version is an all human council.
-snip-

Just FYI, the neutral and renegade decisions in this situation only affect Shepards one line of dialogue and the points awarded.  (the points are split almost evenly with the neutral option, while the renegade one gives only renegade points).  The all-human Council is dependant only on the Councils death and Shepard having more renegade than paragon points by the end of the game.

[Kaiser Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Satire, sir. Just reminding you of your own shortcomings.

Ma'am, I think she is. Not sure.