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[Volus Warlord]

Renegade. Human dominance will minimize conflict between the races.

[Medhia Nox]

@Volus Warlord - not big on our history eh?

[Seboist]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Satire, sir. Just reminding you of your own shortcomings.

Ma'am, I think she is. Not sure.

You have some crush on Saphra that makes you hope he's a she?

[Volus Warlord]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Volus Warlord - not big on our history eh?

I said fighting between the races, not fighting inside the species.

[lovgreno]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Renegade. Human dominance will minimize conflict between the races.

At least for a while when they are ganging up on humanity. Then things will go back to the way it was minus the beaten and humiliated humanity. Dreams of having the biggest c... I mean of being "dominant" is usualy counterproductive in real life. The opposite of domination, cooperation, is what realy changes things.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Seboist wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Satire, sir. Just reminding you of your own shortcomings.

Ma'am, I think she is. Not sure.

You have some crush on Saphra that makes you hope he's a she?

Why, of course I do.

I also have a foe yay crush on Xilizhra, though.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 28 septembre 2011 - 03:07 .

[GodWood]

lovgreno wrote...
At least for a while when they are ganging up on humanity. Then things will go back to the way it was

A galaxy dominated by three species that only supports their interests and leaves everyone else out to dry.

[Seboist]

My canon Shepard will create a new human-led order that'll have a council consisting of Human,Krogan,Geth,Quarian and Vorcha after the three previous ones have been beaten and driven into exile.

My pseudo-canon one on the other hand will become Mrs.Harper/Illusive woman and rule the galaxy alongside her Illusive man. <3

[GodWood]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

lovgreno wrote...
At least for a while when they are ganging up on humanity. Then things will go back to the way it was

A galaxy dominated by three species that only supports their interests and leaves everyone else out to dry.

That's why I support adding quarians, krogan, rachni, and even the geth to the Council. Not only would it be more equal and fair, it would make things a lot more interesting. Too bad it won't happen.

Poor volus

[Reciever80]

It takes both of them combined to make the safest galaxy. You can't be easy on everybody, or naive, however you also can't go making enemies everywhere you go. It's gotta work itself out. How the two compare (in terms of 50-50, 70-30, etc.) That's just personal playing style.

[CoffeeHolic93]

It's a subjective thing, but I personally believe it depends on the situation. The council for instance - killing them alienates the aliens, while saving them makes them accept/borderline worship us. (With the exception of fanatics like Toram Jalid I think his name was.)

Renegade makes sense when it comes to the Krogan due to their infamous blood rage. Don't get me wrong I'd hate to see them die, but I think a Genophage 3.0 that alters their birthrate is more viable than removing it is.

[Kaiser Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You're scaring me, Kaiser

I aim to please. 

GodWood wrote...

lovgreno wrote...
At least for a while when they are ganging up on humanity. Then things will go back to the way it was

A galaxy dominated by three species that only supports their interests and leaves everyone else out to dry.

Indeed, thank god for Cerberus.

[Seboist]

Thank Jubileus for our savior Jack Harper!

[Dave of Canada]

GodWood wrote...

Poor volus

Don't feel bad about them, they're bros with the Human Council and most likely to get a Council seat than even the Asari!

[Sisterofshane]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Volus Warlord - not big on our history eh?

LMAO -- this +1/

But, to be on topic, most people wouldn't think so but "safety" is a relative term.  One may think that they are doing all that they can to minimize risks, but it's truely impossible to get rid of enough risks in an entire galaxy to make it "safe".  In fact, sometimes I have issue with people who do things to promote safety, because in the end they neglect the need for personal responsibility, which in turn makes everyone less safe (can we say seat belt laws?).

If the ME galaxy were real, then I would have to say neither.  Both are opposite ends of the spectrum that promote self-righteous ideaology over logic and circumstance.  Because we are pretty much forced to choose one of the three options, I think that the best answer would be a healthy mix of both, along with the neutral option here and there.  I can really see how many of the major decisions could go either way (I'm sure the game was designed as such).  Hopefully ME3 will give us better context.

[Golden Owl]

Seboist wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Satire, sir. Just reminding you of your own shortcomings.

Ma'am, I think she is. Not sure.

You have some crush on Saphra that makes you hope he's a she?

Then if Kaiser is a guy he will be sadly disappointed...

[ddv.rsa]

Luc0s wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

The human dominated Council actually winds up creating a more equal galaxy.

In the old system the Council was untouchable. All the races united could barely present a challenge for the Council races. However the human Council is weaker, it is not so untouchable. The playing field with regards to the Council and non-Council species is much more even. This encourages more diplomacy and negotiation. Though it also engenders more suspicion, competition, and militarization.

LMAO. Your logic really is as brilliant as always, Saphra.

You really think the other species will just watch and do nothing when we humans dominate the galaxy alone, ESPECIALLY if the human-only council is weaker than the united council? You really think the other species won't use that advantage they have if they unite together against humanity?

No, I'll tell you what will happen. The asari, turians and salarians will unite together to overthrow humanity, they will crush humanity with sheer force, then they'll take over the council and everything will be back exactly the way it was before humanity stood up and took over.

Trust me, your human-only council will only last for a very short time. Probably only until the end of the war against the reapers. That's when the other species will stand up and say: "hey, this is bullsh*t, why are the humies running this galaxy on their own? who the heck they think they are? f*ck 'em! we want our own species back in the council"

Meh. The turians are the real losers if humanity takes over. The Salarians and Asari may have had Council seats, but by the time of ME1 are reduced to little more than stooges. Just look at the Treaty of Farixen, and even the Salarians currying favor with the Turians in hope of protection.

They wouldn't exactly be thrilled, but I don't see the Salarians and Asari going to war to restore Turian dominance. Even less so for minor species who lost nothing and are actually benefitng from human rule.