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What part of Bioware saying there is no multiplayer don't people get. Unless there is a reason why we shouldn't trust them...


They've never denied it. I personally am starting to doubt that they'll do something like that (thank God) but they've never denied it, they just deflect the question when it's asked.

At least it's not as bad as their "Are there permanent squadmates?" deflections.

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I honestly don't understand why people would despise multiplayer being in Mass Effect.

First of all, that "taking away resources from single-player" thing is the stupidest crap I've ever witnessed. I would've thought most people knew that campaign development and multiplayer development are COMPLETELY different, and have completely different teams working on it. The campaign would be as good as it is, with or without multiplayer. Same goes for any other game.

Now that that's been said, multiplayer itself is a CHOICE. You don't have to play it if you don't want to people! Don't ruin the chances of it coming to life for others that would enjoy it!

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Still going with "James Vegas" on this one.

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Believe it when I see it. When is this announcement supposed to be?

IMO it will be Vega's VA but whatever.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 28 septembre 2011 - 01:56 .


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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Believe it when I see it. When is this announcement supposed to be?

IMO it will be Vega's VA but whatever.


Sometime within the week.

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My only real concern with multiplayer is that it will attract the hyper-competitive douchebags that I've made a point to avoid so far.

Granted, not everyone who multis is a douchebag. In fact, most aren't.

But the last thing I need is to enter the arena or whatever and hear nothing but "make me a sandwich/ur fat/suck my dick, b*tch."

I hope there's a friend filter or something.

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I tend to find ME2 longer than ME1, personally. It seems like I'm the odd one out though. Most forumites claim they're about even.

Take out Assignments/N7 Missions from both games and ME2 is almost 4x longer then the first game give or take.

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wait, why do we think this will be multiplayer?

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Sudsaroo wrote...

I honestly don't understand why people would despise multiplayer being in Mass Effect.

First of all, that "taking away resources from single-player" thing is the stupidest crap I've ever witnessed. I would've thought most people knew that campaign development and multiplayer development are COMPLETELY different, and have completely different teams working on it. The campaign would be as good as it is, with or without multiplayer. Same goes for any other game.

Now that that's been said, multiplayer itself is a CHOICE. You don't have to play it if you don't want to people! Don't ruin the chances of it coming to life for others that would enjoy it!


Sadly, people don't actually believe that at all. Single-player would would not be detracted from at all since seperate teams work on the parts, but people don't actually know game development.

As if having one massive team working on it and detracting from single player made sense to begin with. It's not like they are cutting things left and right in order to shoe horn the MP, and leaving plot holes. Wish people would be a bit more logical about it all...

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Yeah ME2 seems way longer to me too. I played through with my canonshep twice in ME1 to get my guy to level 60 for the import. Two times through and it still isn't as long as my one playthrough of ME2.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 28 septembre 2011 - 02:01 .


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Unless there's some super famous actor playing Vega, I dont see why the announcement of his voice actor would be so important they need an embargo on the announcement.

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

wait, why do we think this will be multiplayer?


It gives us something to argue about.


Really, it's probably going to be a FemShep trailer since that's all people want.

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Ace of Dawn wrote...

Sudsaroo wrote...

I honestly don't understand why people would despise multiplayer being in Mass Effect.

First of all, that "taking away resources from single-player" thing is the stupidest crap I've ever witnessed. I would've thought most people knew that campaign development and multiplayer development are COMPLETELY different, and have completely different teams working on it. The campaign would be as good as it is, with or without multiplayer. Same goes for any other game.

Now that that's been said, multiplayer itself is a CHOICE. You don't have to play it if you don't want to people! Don't ruin the chances of it coming to life for others that would enjoy it!


Sadly, people don't actually believe that at all. Single-player would would not be detracted from at all since seperate teams work on the parts, but people don't actually know game development.

As if having one massive team working on it and detracting from single player made sense to begin with. It's not like they are cutting things left and right in order to shoe horn the MP, and leaving plot holes. Wish people would be a bit more logical about it all...

Even still, this is Bioware we're talking about! Everyone here should know how much they cherish storytelling :/

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

My only real concern with multiplayer is that it will attract the hyper-competitive douchebags that I've made a point to avoid so far.

Granted, not everyone who multis is a douchebag. In fact, most aren't.

But the last thing I need is to enter the arena or whatever and hear nothing but "make me a sandwich/ur fat/suck my dick, b*tch."

I hope there's a friend filter or something.


Somehow my good friend Kristen has managed to ignore that treatment for years. Big shooter gamer, her. Strong will, damn.

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hopefully they'll reveal Shiala as a squadmate.

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Sudsaroo wrote...
I honestly don't understand why people would despise multiplayer being in Mass Effect.

First of all, that "taking away resources from single-player" thing is the stupidest crap I've ever witnessed.

Judging from your follow up sentence it's because you don't get what it means. 

The campaign would be as good as it is, with or without multiplayer. Same goes for any other game.

lol

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El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

To OP:
Please can you change the title? Because I think it's misleading a little. I mean, YOU are assuming that it's about MP, others are thinking probably in something else.
I suggest you to change it for "Possible new announcement in this week." or somthing like that

Can't change the title I'm afraid.

Modifié par The-Person, 28 septembre 2011 - 02:03 .


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JeffZero wrote...

Somehow my good friend Kristen has managed to ignore that treatment for years. Big shooter gamer, her. Strong will, damn.

Good for her.  I'd completely fly off my hinge and start killing people IRL.

I've been in a sour mood lately and for no particular reason.

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If I had to say anything, it would be FemShep's promotional material.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Somehow my good friend Kristen has managed to ignore that treatment for years. Big shooter gamer, her. Strong will, damn.

Good for her.  I'd completely fly off my hinge and start killing people IRL.

I've been in a sour mood lately and for no particular reason.


Sometimes life just tastes sour. It's a bastard like that.

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JeffZero wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

My only real concern with multiplayer is that it will attract the hyper-competitive douchebags that I've made a point to avoid so far.

Granted, not everyone who multis is a douchebag. In fact, most aren't.

But the last thing I need is to enter the arena or whatever and hear nothing but "make me a sandwich/ur fat/suck my dick, b*tch."

I hope there's a friend filter or something.


Somehow my good friend Kristen has managed to ignore that treatment for years. Big shooter gamer, her. Strong will, damn.


Its easy really. Just learn to laugh at the idiots :wizard:

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The-Person wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

To OP:
Please can you change the title? Because I think it's misleading a little. I mean, YOU are assuming that it's about MP, others are thinking probably in something else.
I suggest you to change it for "Possible new announcement in this week." or somthing like that

Can't change the title I'm afraid.

Why not?
Because you don't want to or you cant?

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Foryou wrote...

What part of Bioware saying there is no multiplayer don't people get. Unless there is a reason why we shouldn't trust them...


They've never denied it. I personally am starting to doubt that they'll do something like that (thank God) but they've never denied it, they just deflect the question when it's asked.

At least it's not as bad as their "Are there permanent squadmates?" deflections.


Exactly!

Let's do the math...

1.  They hired a Multiplayer dev when they were developing Star Wars,  Dragon Age 2,  and ME3.  The position wasn't in the studio doing Star Wars,  and DA2 didn't have multiplayer.  So there's only 1 place to go.
2.  Two weeks ago they hired a QA Lead for Multiplayer testing.  Since Star Wars is too close to release to need it,  there's only one game in development that's far enough along to need a QA Lead.

ME3 has Multiplayer.  I'm really not sure how many more huge red flags people need.  Especially since Bioware refuses time and again to say definitively "No",  instead making extremely deflective comments meant to be read the wrong way.

I honestly don't understand why people would despise multiplayer being in Mass Effect.

First of all, that "taking away resources from single-player" thing is the stupidest crap I've ever witnessed. I would've thought most people knew that campaign development and multiplayer development are COMPLETELY different, and have completely different teams working on it. The campaign would be as good as it is, with or without multiplayer. Same goes for any other game.

Now that that's been said, multiplayer itself is a CHOICE. You don't have to play it if you don't want to people! Don't ruin the chances of it coming to life for others that would enjoy it!


Two points.

1.  Where do you think that money comes from?  They don't give the Dev team more money just to implement Multiplayer,  they give them the same amount of money and tell them to do both.  So the Single-player experience ends up suffering horribly.

2.  The number of people who will play ME3 for multiplayer is ridiculously small.  It's a single-player experience.  It has no hooks for multiplayer,  nothing we haven't seen 8,000 times before over the past 20 years.  I really highly doubt Deathmatches between Shepherds or fighting Waves is really going to be seen as anything other than lackluster.  Mainly because you could go buy CoD,  or GoW,  and get a game designed around the shooter concept,  rather than take a game designed around a narrative concept and try to force it in.

Multiplayer is in ME3 for one reason,  and one reason only.

It's EA's Used-Game DRM.  They use it to force people who buy used to pay them anyways,  making the used copy pointless.

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Should the test online test specialist been hired from the beginning?

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Epic777 wrote...

Should the test online test specialist been hired from the beginning?


Testers don't make the games, they test them.