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How powerful is Viconia when you resurrect her in the temple of Amaumanator?


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ARKdeEREH

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Is she exactly as she would have been in chapter 6 when she was abducted by Bodhi? Or is she scaled to the power of the protagonist character, like if I wait a long time before resurrecting her?

Basically, I am about to finish a game in Throne of Bhaal and really want to bring Viconia with me when I import my protagonist into Shadows of Amn (Viconia is by far the most poweful character in my party and is level 38).  I can't figure out how to just import her, so I was thinking that if I could use cheats to create the "Viconia's Body" item I could bring her body in my protagonist's inventory into Shadows of Amn, and eventually resurrect her after I kill Bodhi.  Since she would have been level 38 when the item was created (with the cheat) I am hoping she would still be level 38 when I resurrect her in the new Shadows of Amn game.  Does anyone know if this is correct?

I am having trouble getting the CLUAConsole to work, so I may not be able to use cheats.  If I cannot use cheats I am hoping to try something similar, but more time consuming and complicated, by importing my protagonist into Shadows of Amn, having a new Viconia join my party, using my overpowered Throne of Bhaal protagonist to cut my way through the main quest ASAP so I can kill Bodhi and resurrect Viconia in the hopes that she will be scaled to my protagonist when she is resurrected.  Would she be, or would she be as weak as a normal chapter 6 character would be?

Also, is there anyway to change her alignment to True Neutral without going through the whole game again, or using cheats, if I were to try the second option? 

Thanks! 

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ncknck

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add her normally, add 6 million xp in shadowkeeper, change her to neutral in shadowkeeper, start her romance in shadowkeeper, progress her romance in shadowkeeper, add WK items in shadowkeeper, add every other item in shadowkeeper. See the big picture? The only thing shadowkeeper cant do is adding her in irenicus dungeon. Need console for that, and im not sure it would go well after rescuing the real Viconia.

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Humanoid_Taifun

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The item MISCBO, or Viconia's Body, does not contain any information on her level. That information is saved somewhere else when you lose Viconia* (don't ask me where though). Oh, and she stays that level, as everybody else does when you kick them out of the party (the only exception being when you summon somebody to the Throne of Bhaal).

* so if you never had her in your party during that game then the information does not exist - don't ask me what would happen if you tried resurrecting her. I guess either nothing or you'd spawn one of her standard versions (likely the level 13 version).

Modifié par Humanoid_Taifun, 29 septembre 2011 - 09:53 .


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morbidest2

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ARK... Even if you figure out a way to do this, what's the point in having level 30+ characters starting a SoA run? It will just be a sandbox run thru with every battle being a joke Posted Image 

OK, I just read your "Why" posting in the No Spoilers Forum. If your goal is just to replay a small number of areas AND you made a lot of saves as you went thru the run, then I suggest you Goggle some of the BG2 walk thrus and prepare your party in depth for each battle area. For instance, getting the Greenstone amulet in the Underdark Beholder caves is a big help in tackling the Mind Flayer city. And buying the Shield of Balduran at the Adventures Mart before you go to Spellhold, makes dealing with a bunch of Beholders something that's possible. Anotherwords the BG games have layers of complexity that go beyond whether you play them on Easy, Normal, Core, Hard or Insane. You could make a dozen runs before you stop finding new stuff, and then you can start adding mods.

Having a 38 to 40 level evil Viconia in SoA kills the main plot since she will turn every vampire into an ally (maybe even Bodhi Posted Image ?). Did you flip her from evil to neutral in ToB?

Modifié par morbidest2, 29 septembre 2011 - 01:14 .


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ARKdeEREH

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I got Viconia to change to true neutral in Throne of Bhaal, although my protagonist's character was inadvertently changed from chaotic good to neutral evil because I took the blackrazor sword from the efreet in the end of Shadows of Amn, so I guess we sort of traded alignments, almost.

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OK, then she'll just kill (instead of using) the undead in a flash if you've brought her back at lev 38+. You can google up a table that tells you which undead are fried by clerics of a given level, but I doubt that any vamps - except Bodhi - will last out a round.

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ncknck

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playing with a lvl38 is not much different from playing a solo char, where you get first HLA in like chapter 2. Pretty much everything is capped at level 20 anyway.