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[Chris Priestly]

Mac Walters, writer for the Mass Effect games and the Mass Effect comics, has written a blog for Dark Horse Comics on why you don't have to play teh video games in order to enjoy the comics. Now, I know almost everyone here has played at least one of the Mass Effect games, but Mac makes some good points on why you don't have to have played the games in order to enjoy the comics.

You can read Mac's blog over at Dark Horse Comics

[Kusy]

first?

And nope... as far as I can believe that someone became interested in the Mass Effect universe by reading one of the books... but I don't believe that any of the comics could "enthrall" anyone...  
Hello!? Do we have anyone enthralled in the house?

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 29 septembre 2011 - 10:43 .

[JeffZero]

I'll jump in and say something civil in case this blows up.

Takes all kinds. Some folks are huge comic buffs who just can't get into gaming. I'm happy for them.

[Kusy]

Why of course... I didn't mean that people can't be enthralled and fascinated by comics series. I said I don't believe they could by this particular one. But then again, there are different tastes in the world, if someone finds those comics good, good for them.

And thinking about it... maybe it's not that you don't have to play the game to enjoy those comics... maybe in order to enjoy them you have to have no experience with the games whatsoever? Because frankly... they stop making sense when you do.

My initial rage on those comics have long passed, but I still don't find them apealing in any way... visual or story wise.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 29 septembre 2011 - 10:53 .

[AdmiralCheez]

He touched on some good points (like "not everyone likes gaming" and "DAMN GOOD CHARACTERS"), but most of it was tooting his own horn.

Calm down, Mac. We love you, and you have a right to be proud of yourself, but seriously, try not to get a big head.

[ADLegend21]

Makes sense.

[Reaper Edge]

Mac Walters wrote...
We’ve created a living, breathing future world and filled it with compelling characters and epic scenarios.

Then you flushed lore-consistency to the toilet by simply creating ME: Evolution. Mac, I've got nothing against you, but mate, you really trying hard to dissapoint whoever loves solid, lorewise consistent, thoroughly thought fiction.

Makes no sense.

[adneate]

Well there are people who like the Baysformers movies so I'm sure people could like these comics too.

Personally I think they are garbage and each one has fundamentally undermined the franchise as a whole and actively work against the quality of the games. As the series goes from Space Adventure / SciFi to Action Schlock, with catsuits and supervillans.

[GodWood]

No comment

[Fiery Phoenix]

adneate wrote...

Well there are people who like the Baysformers movies so I'm sure people could like these comics too.

Personally I think they are garbage and each one has fundamentally undermined the franchise as a whole and actively work against the quality of the games. As the series goes from Space Adventure / SciFi to Action Schlock, with catsuits and supervillans.

I am unconditionally compelled to agree with this, unfortunately. I love the games and even the novels Drew wrote, but the comics just don't cut it for me.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

That's true but I really have to still read a really, really good ME comic. And I'm a comic book reader and video game player.

[Bad King]

They'd probably be better if you haven't played the games. You wouldn't notice all the retcons that way.

[Pwnisher]

The comics were way too different from the games for me to like them, hopefully this comic is different. The books were good though.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Reaper Edge wrote...

Mac Walters wrote...
We’ve created a living, breathing future world and filled it with compelling characters and epic scenarios.

Then you flushed lore-consistency to the toilet by simply creating ME: Evolution. Mac, I've got nothing against you, but mate, you really trying hard to dissapoint whoever loves solid, lorewise consistent, thoroughly thought fiction.

Makes no sense.

This, unfortunately. I really do wish that Mac had a better sense/appreciation of lore consistency and keeping continuity between the comics and the games (and even within the games themselves), because I honestly don't see it in his work.

Speaking as a diehard fan of the ME games, I can say that the comics were minimally okay, but as far as being able to "enjoy" the Mass Effect comics without having played the games... nah. Has Mac even read the reviews? Most of them repeat the opinion that the comics are only to be taken as filler for Mass Effect fans, that they're only really appropriate for those who actually know the characters and the plots from the games, and that they don't really make that much sense on their own (READ: ME: Evolution http://comics.ign.co.../1163087p1.html ), etc...

Mac can plug the comics all he wants; they're still deeply flawed in a way that he's never really bothered to acknowledge.

[The Interloper]

Yeah. I've heard hilarious things about Evolution.

[Babli]

lol Mass Effect comics

Yeah, thats all I have to say about them.

[Benji1306]

I don't fall for it. And frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of all the talk about "you don't have to play/read X to enjoy Y" In my point of view it's just a big slap in the face to fans who bought the previous series. Yeah, I'm wierd like that.

[Dave of Canada]

They aren't that entertaining if you don't play the series, you could spend more money on something outside the universe and be entertained with more complex stories or characters.

The Mass Effect comics feel, at least to me, like they're trying to simplify everything in the universe for the short comics and in the process ends up hurting the universe as a whole as some facts and plot points are retconned.

Doesn't help either that most of the characters are one trick ponies and the art style is horrible and tries to be "cool".

[Nashiktal]

I love the transformer movies, they are what they are, they never lie about that, and they make no apologies for what they are.

The comics however? They drift in quality. Dark horse style has burned me more than once, and the liara comic just changed her personality.

But.. Eh.

[Computer_God91]

Benji1306 wrote...

I don't fall for it. And frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of all the talk about "you don't have to play/read X to enjoy Y" In my point of view it's just a big slap in the face to fans who bought the previous series. Yeah, I'm wierd like that.

Yea, that pisses me off too. So, you're not weird. I'd prefer that they stop with that whole thing but they won't and it'll just keep hurting the series and after ME3 they just won't get my money because with each game I've slowly been losing faith in Bioware games.

[Phaedon]

Well, obviously.

The comics introduce either new characters or reintroduce old characters. What forum genius thinks that the games are required for anything but Inquisition and Incursion?

[CroGamer002]

Well, start writing good comics.

Conviction is the only good one.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Mesina2 wrote...

Well, start writing good comics.

Conviction is the only good one.

The inqusition comic was also decent. Althrough I would say that both inquesition and conviction are just "passable".

[Fredvdp]

I've read the comic book that came with the Collectors Edition. Hideous. Simply hideous. That new Vega comic was horrible as well. It could be a cultural thing because I grew up with Belgian and French comics (Lucky Luke, Asterix, Tintin) which actually have more than three panels per page and take more than a minute to read. What bugs me about the Mass Effect comics is that they feel like they were made in a factory and not by an artist.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 30 septembre 2011 - 07:50 .

[DarkDragon777]

The comics are pretty bad and are a disgrace to the ME universe in my opinion..


You can tell he's really desperate to get sales anyway. You can be proud of yourself and everything, but it's unlikely that anyone who's never played ME would even like the comics.