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[jbrand2002uk]

this aint trolling its simply stating viewpoint thats becoming more prevalent which is simply that you guys have been moaning about the same old stuff for months on end give it a break and change your tune enough is enough

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

this aint trolling its simply stating viewpoint thats becoming more prevalent which is simply that you guys have been moaning about the same old stuff for months on end give it a break and change your tune enough is enough

- Complains about the same old thing
- Never offers anything constructive
- Never listens to the opinions and advice of others
- Hasn't stopped complaining after all these months

I lol'd.

[Phaedros]

DA2 butchered what DA:O should have been...

Bankers shafted the world... *our* world.

[jbrand2002uk]

my point bein is that DA2 is what it is it cant be changed now so whats the point in endless complaining about it, it annoys the hell out of me that someone unhappy with the game cant just make their point once and then move on, Bioware have said that they have taken the criticisms on board and that should be enough but still the same people keep moaning about the same things and its mostly the same people that started 6 months ago.

TBH DAO was a massive dissapointment for many considering how long it was in development( 4 years give or take)

What does make me lol though is the ironic attitude of those same posters in that as soon as one person says to them you have made your point shut up already they go throwing the word troll around like a handbag in a shop sale.

[Phaedros]

No.

DA2 was my single biggest disappointment in my gaming history. And my 1st game was 'Elite' played off an audio cassette..

I will never forget, and I will not let 'them' .. !

[FieryDove]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

my point bein is that DA2 is what it is it cant be changed now so whats the point in endless complaining about it, it annoys the hell out of me that someone unhappy with the game cant just make their point once and then move on, Bioware have said that they have taken the criticisms on board and that should be enough but still the same people keep moaning about the same things and its mostly the same people that started 6 months ago.

What does make me lol though is the ironic attitude of those same posters in that as soon as one person says to them you have made your point shut up already they go throwing the word troll around like a handbag in a shop sale.

Holy pot meet kettle. If the shoe fits....some people throw it.

As to the OP. I don't buy it. I didn't way back then, I don't now.

[Saintthanksgiving]

"Hey, somebody go throw a jagged olive branch at the people we pissed off with DA2 before it negatively affects Mass Effect 3 Preorders" - The guy in Charge of Getting Your Money regardless of the product quality.

[KilrB]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

my point bein is that DA2 is what it is it cant be changed now so whats the point in endless complaining about it, it annoys the hell out of me that someone unhappy with the game cant just make their point once and then move on, Bioware have said that they have taken the criticisms on board and that should be enough but still the same people keep moaning about the same things and its mostly the same people that started 6 months ago.

TBH DAO was a massive dissapointment for many considering how long it was in development( 4 years give or take)

What does make me lol though is the ironic attitude of those same posters in that as soon as one person says to them you have made your point shut up already they go throwing the word troll around like a handbag in a shop sale.

You have made your point ... shut up already.

You knew what this thread was about before you read a single post so don't act all "surprised" now.

You came to cast stones ... better be good a dodging too.

Troll.

[TheRealJayDee]

Phaedros wrote...

DA2 was my single biggest disappointment in my gaming history. 

I have actually wondered since I finished it if there ever was a game I had such high hopes for and that left me as disappointed as DA2, and honestly, I couldn't think of one.

[Sylvius the Mad]

AlexXIV wrote...

I just started a new run DA:O and I already remembered alot of things that always bothered me. Even about choices. I think people are already getting nostalgic and forget the one or other flaw of DA:O.

I'm playing DAO right now (My Aeducan Warden just crowned Harrowmont, and has already cleared the Circle Tower).  I'm certainly not nostaligc.  I have immediate experience with the game, and it allows me far more roleplaying freedom than DA2 does in nearly every aspect of the game.

[Fast Jimmy]

I can't play DAO anymore. Not because its not a great game, but because I sucked the marrow from it time and time again over 7 full playthroughs (all origins, and then the mage origin again just for good measure). There is only one thing I did not experience in DAO and that was finding the farmer and his wife with the crater and the meteor rock. It was rare enough for me to not find after 100+ hours of playing and its only bonus was a sword which could be bought in a store later on and did not offer much in superior quality.

I started a third DA2 playthrough and STILL felt more burnt out on doing the same old thing than I did after 7 playthroughs of DAO... which each took significantly longer than the threadbare DA2 playthroughs took.

So, in my opinion, anyone from Bioware who says they were surprised by the backlash going from DAO to DA2 either A) Didn't play DAO Didn't play DA2 or C) is lying.

[Fast Jimmy]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Phaedros wrote...

DA2 was my single biggest disappointment in my gaming history. 

I have actually wondered since I finished it if there ever was a game I had such high hopes for and that left me as disappointed as DA2, and honestly, I couldn't think of one.

DA2 will be the last pre-order on a game I do, ever. Not just Bioware, but any company in the world... especially an EA-owned company.

I can't stare disappointment and let down in the face like that again.

[Monica83]

Its always the same story...

Pr talking...
Teaser with promises

but this thime im not to going to believe them i will not puchase any bioware title at day one..
After dragon age 2 is pletty clear they are assimilated by EA no matter how the PR lies..

[Sinuphro]

Monica83 wrote...

Its always the same story...

Pr talking...
Teaser with promises

but this thime im not to going to believe them i will not puchase any bioware title at day one..
After dragon age 2 is pletty clear they are assimilated by EA no matter how the PR lies..

same here

[Pedrak]

In a nutshell:

DA2 was not a bad game, but it had 2 major flaws:

1) It felt rushed (ex. shorter, re-using areas)
2) It tried, unsuccessfully, to cater to non-RPG fans with a streamlining that alienated several RPG hardcore fans (ex. inventory system).

Many positive Bioware trademarks (interesting story, likable characters) were still there, but the game was inferior to DAO.

Modifié par Pedrak, 06 novembre 2011 - 03:55 .

[Lord_Valandil]

Yeah, the fan reaction caught them "off-guard".
Sure, sure, I believe it.
You'd think they see us as idiots or something, who wouldn't complain about their copy-paste environments and other obvious flaws their game has.

[Monica83]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Yeah, the fan reaction caught them "off-guard".
Sure, sure, I believe it.
You'd think they see us as idiots or something, who wouldn't complain about their copy-paste environments and other obvious flaws their game has.

Maybe they thought people were emotionally stable enough not to cry and scream betrayal over copy-paste enviroments.

or intelligent people that are rady to puchase garbage only because branded "bioware"

When you take a successfull game and you turn it in a rushed and poor of content sold out title its normal people get upset

[Salaya]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

...

Maybe they thought people were emotionally stable enough not to cry and scream betrayal over copy-paste enviroments.

I don't think that critizing a bad move on a game you were expecting to like has anything to do with emotion instability.

Sure, there is people that overreacts, but also peope who feels disappointed.

[Joy Divison]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Phaedros wrote...

DA2 was my single biggest disappointment in my gaming history. 

I have actually wondered since I finished it if there ever was a game I had such high hopes for and that left me as disappointed as DA2, and honestly, I couldn't think of one.

Civ 5 was every bit the disappointment.

[jbrand2002uk]

Criticizing a game once is normal banging on about it for months on end as if BW killed their fluffy DAO kitten is emotional instability.

An intelligent person would realise its just a game and in the grand scheme of things is not all that important.
Alas the majority of the DAO fans on the BSN fall into the emotionally unstable "they killed my fluffy DAO kitten and anyone who tells me to grow up is a troll" category honestly my 7 year old cousin has more sense than most of the people on here.

[xkg]

jbrand2002uk wrote...
Criticizing a game once is normal banging on about it for months on end as if BW killed their fluffy DAO kitten is emotional instability.

An intelligent person would realise its just a game and in the grand scheme of things is not all that important.
Alas the majority of the DAO fans on the BSN fall into the emotionally unstable "they killed my fluffy DAO kitten and anyone who tells me to grow up is a troll" category honestly my 7 year old cousin has more sense than most of the people on here.

jbrand2002uk wrote...

casamar wrote...
My biggest pet peeve is when discussions about DAII devolve into insults, name calling, and locked threads

I totally agree which is why my posts are insult free

[jbrand2002uk]

and where is the name calling prey tell ?

[Salaya]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

and where is the name calling prey tell ?

Name calling?  It's true. No name calling. But..!

jbrand2002uk wrote...
I totally agree which is why my posts are insult free

... seems a bit incompatible with...

jbrand2002uk wrote...
Criticizing a game once is normal banging on about it for months on end as if BW killed their fluffy DAO kitten is emotional instability.

An intelligent person would realise its just a game and in the grand scheme of things is not all that important.
Alas the majority of the DAO fans on the BSN fall into the emotionally unstable "they killed my fluffy DAO kitten and anyone who tells me to grow up is a troll" category honestly my 7 year old cousin has more sense than most of the people on here.

...don't you think?  

[jbrand2002uk]

it is but that was back then when the drama queeniness was less frequent and now its becoming very tiresome I'm all for people making a complaint about a game thats a fundemental right of a consumer after all but some posters on here act as if the Universe is doomed because DA2 was done differently to DAO whats more annoying though is that the same people keep repeating thier complaints time and again for months on end and its not new complaints from new users its the same old complaints from the same old users, So forgive me for asking that after 6 months of moaning would they please change the record as its getting very tired.