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[Pygmali0n]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

it is but that was back then when the drama queeniness was less frequent and now its becoming very tiresome I'm all for people making a complaint about a game thats a fundemental right of a consumer after all but some posters on here act as if the Universe is doomed because DA2 was done differently to DAO whats more annoying though is that the same people keep repeating thier complaints time and again for months on end and its not new complaints from new users its the same old complaints from the same old users, So forgive me for asking that after 6 months of moaning would they please change the record as its getting very tired.

It's because the signs show that Bioware aren't listening. Different isn't necessarily bad, however bad is bad, and DA2 was just so terribly godawful bad. It was an attempt to make Dragon Age 2011, with EA hoping to be able to bring out Dragon Age 2012 next year.

There's a large consensus of people who disagree with you. And your complaints about complaints aren't going to persuade people that DA2 was a good game. You do want to persuade people and not just shut them up?

Sadly for you, you don't rule the world, have telepathic powers to force people to behave the way you want or even just have moderator privileges....So what's the solution for you?

Yes, it would be to stop reading this thread and go over to a thread more fluffy and accepting, one where you can wallow in the DA2 love and feel happier, but it's your choice.

Modifié par Pygmali0n, 06 novembre 2011 - 09:19 .

[jbrand2002uk]

Did I say DA2 was a great game no its average but alas you and your kind of gamer seems to be under the delusion that you have the power to shape the franchise by dragging up old complaints from months ago but if anyone wants a definition of drama queen then the above poster is a prime example of such a person

[jbrand2002uk]

that he's on here begs the question If DAO is a perfect and brilliant as he and his ilk claim why isnt he on it right now playing i guess it must have crashed again or did he get stuck in the deep roads hmmm

[Pygmali0n]

Hm, perhaps it is a waste of time Jbrand, just as much as trying to be rational with you. But hope isn't a bad quality.

Drama queen? Well perhaps you're seeing queens everywhere now after playing so much DA2.

Yeah right, you only think DA2 is average, so much so you don't particularly want a toolset because you like DA2 the way it is... irrational and dishonest.

It is perhaps a bad quality in me to stick around and be fascinated by a car crash, but lots of people stop and stare at disasters.

Modifié par Pygmali0n, 06 novembre 2011 - 09:46 .

[Phaedros]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

" alas you and your kind of gamer"

... couldn't agree more.

look in the mirror...

you don't belong here, go away.

[jbrand2002uk]

Ah the irony a DAO fanboi talking about being rational oh and look here above is his bf well bite me i'll go where and when i please

[Phaedros]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

Ah the irony 

keep up...

[xkg]

Guys, lets just ignore him like a barking dog. Otherwise this thread will get locked.

[Monica83]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

Criticizing a game once is normal banging on about it for months on end as if BW killed their fluffy DAO kitten is emotional instability.

An intelligent person would realise its just a game and in the grand scheme of things is not all that important.
Alas the majority of the DAO fans on the BSN fall into the emotionally unstable "they killed my fluffy DAO kitten and anyone who tells me to grow up is a troll" category honestly my 7 year old cousin has more sense than most of the people on here.

cool dude!!!
you won a prize:

People are just upset because they not only changed the game in a middle of a series..But they also shaped the sequel as a complete different game for a different audience..

When you have a passion from something for sure if someone turn your favourite setting in a complete different one you will be upset.. They slapped on the face of theyr old fans with a rushed and sold out title and they also spread a lot of marketing lies and called the people that disliked the game forchan trolls.. or people that are afraid to change..

Rpg must be more than videogames..And dragon age 2 is not even closer to be an rpg or a nice action game is something in the middle and very bad executed sold at the release day like a true sequel for 50 bucks..

we complain because we know what bioware is capable to do...but since bioware is changed and this is very sad

[Callidus Thorn]

Is there some kind of troll rota for this section of the forums? I mean recently there was Versago, who handed off to Darksun552, who has apparently handed off to jbrand2002uk. Do we get a new one in a few days?

[Phaedros]

Callidus Thorn wrote...

Is there some kind of troll rota for this section of the forums? I mean recently there was Versago, who handed off to Darksun552, who has apparently handed off to jbrand2002uk. Do we get a new one in a few days?

dev alts... ?

the ones who took the pieces of silver... 

[xkg]

Callidus Thorn wrote...

Is there some kind of troll rota for this section of the forums? I mean recently there was Versago, who handed off to Darksun552, who has apparently handed off to jbrand2002uk. Do we get a new one in a few days?

DarkSun522 was Versago. Just on another account

[jbrand2002uk]

I have been a BW fan from the start and I was very unhappy with DAO yet i didnt feel the need to frequent the forums for 6 months after its realease complaining about it I just turned my DAO disc into a drinks coaster and left it at that because its just a game its not a matter of life and death i have also been a fan of the GTA games from the 1st one yet i didnt gey all emo when shock horror the latest DLC for GTA4 was about a gay man why ? because its just a game it doesnt matter.

I have a passion for games and for cars but i dont get into a tantrum because BMW ripped off the mini or because shock horror Sonic went from 2D to 3D oh the calamity.
My point being is that i can not believe that some people can take their gaming so seriously that they get upset over something that is not important

[Pygmali0n]

Jbrand: but I think you can understand that people would care when something they like is changed to something they don't. Especially when there's a limited supply of good RPGs whereas there's a ton of action games.

Or imagine Game of Thrones being turned into Dragonball Z, or vice versa. Fans of both wouldn't like it.

I've been a BW fan from the start too. I didn't like NWN so I left it alone and didn't complain. I didn't generally like the gradual simplifcation of role playing BW brought in from game to game, but I didn't feel the need to complain and mostly the games were of a high enough quality anyway.

With DA2 BW deserve the complaints for tearing up a beautiful (albeit flawed) thing. DA:O was dumbed down just enough not to annoy too many hardcore fans and yet become the mainstream success it was.

And what makes it worse is that the DA world, and the approach by the old guy in charge, fired up so many imaginations and made us think something truly epic was being created - only for us to have the rug pulled from under our feet.

And the shame is that Bioware/EA could have had the quick payoff they wanted, and increased the fanbase, by concentrating on story, level design and tweaking the existing game, rather than reinventing DA into the image of the ego of the new guy in charge.

Modifié par Pygmali0n, 06 novembre 2011 - 11:03 .

[Phaedros]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i can not believe that some people can take their gaming so seriously that they get upset over something that is not important

not a gamer then

or even a grammar...

or someone who knows what's important about something they know nothing about..

perish the thought

10 a penny on here

[Lord Nikon 001]

Girls! Girls... your both beautiful... Can we move along now?

[TRLahti]

Everyone is so mad. Why?

[jbrand2002uk]

I can understand people caring about something thats all fine and well but what occurs mostly on the BSN could be categorized as gross overreaction, yet i dont recall a similar backlash where LucasArts changed the well loved Star Wars series from a good story of Good/Light vs Evil/Dark in a pod racing cash in on the episode 1 movie and as i recall it was a really awful game at that and yet individual fans wernt complaining for months on end about it they just cooly and calmly moved on to other games or didnt buy and future Star Wars Racing games.

The Star Wars fans did the sensible thing and voted with their wallets and now Lucas Arts returned Star wars to what it was unless you count star wars galaxies. Is it so unreasonable to maybe suggest that DA fans might do well to consider a similar approach ?

[jbrand2002uk]

Phaedros wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i can not believe that some people can take their gaming so seriously that they get upset over something that is not important

not a gamer then

or even a grammar...

or someone who knows what's important about something they know nothing about..

perish the thought

10 a penny on here

Thanking for making my point about some gamers taking games too seriously, regardless of the genre its a "game" not a matter of life and death the universe will not implode because DA2 was so radically different to DAO,
and yet your one of the many who act as if the changes were a capitol crime against all of humanity, ok your miffed at some/all of the changes that were made which is clearly a big deal to you because as soon as someone suggests an approach like mine you get irate and start frothing at the mouth, personally I've met calmer EMO's than you.

The cool headed approach would be to wait and see what DA3 becomes and then decide if you want to buy it or not but alas your not the type seems you have more fun ranting and raving about trivial things.

If you bought DA2 and dont like it the answers simple either sell it or stop laying and buy something else, there are plenty of other good RPG's out there featuring dragons and swords to please even you  

[Pygmali0n]

Or rather than wait a couple of years to be disappointed, people could try and set out what makes a great Bioware RPG and try to make BW see where and how they lost their way. Already fan feedback through sales and criticism has made them alter course (how much we shall eventually see).

There's been some v interesting posts on this thread, excluding mine and yours. Do us a favour and reply with effort, patience and thought to Merin's great post a couple of pages back or something else other than bicker with easily swatted insults. For example I never took Versago seriously - to be honest I thought he was a parody of a DA2 fanboy.

I think the anti-DA2 crowd having spent money on a game, and having a serious interest in CRPGs, have more good reason to complain than your hot headed, taking too seriously complaining about people complaining in a corner of the internet you don't need to frequent.

Modifié par Pygmali0n, 07 novembre 2011 - 02:49 .

[KilrB]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

I have been a BW fan from the start and I was very unhappy with DAO yet i didnt feel the need to frequent the forums for 6 months after its realease complaining about it I just turned my DAO disc into a drinks coaster and left it at that because its just a game its not a matter of life and death i have also been a fan of the GTA games from the 1st one yet i didnt gey all emo when shock horror the latest DLC for GTA4 was about a gay man why ? because its just a game it doesnt matter.

I have a passion for games and for cars but i dont get into a tantrum because BMW ripped off the mini or because shock horror Sonic went from 2D to 3D oh the calamity.
My point being is that i can not believe that some people can take their gaming so seriously that they get upset over something that is not important

Not what your join date says ... <_<

Your avatar is plastered on so many threads here I'm having MGD/Versago/Darksun flashbacks.

Who are you really?

Besides trying to get as many threads locked as possible, what is your purpose here?

(Edit for spelling)

Modifié par KilrB, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:04 .

[eroeru]

jbrand2002uk wrote...
there are plenty of other good RPG's out there featuring dragons and swords to please even you  

Well, dragons and swords don't make up Dragon Age, nor are they selling points of a Bioware game, nor any game for that matter... Versago?

[jbrand2002uk]

@KilrB I have played games since way back when the ZX Spectrum was the latest in thing i still have each and every one of my BW games and thats every game they ever made I dont bother registering them on the BSN because im not interested in the titbits you get thrown for doing so.

The only reason i registered DA2 was because I passively thought why not at the time. alas yet again your missing the key point which was why are some people unable to realise that in the general scheme of things a game is not that important so why get so irate over it.

But since bothering to participate in the forums which until my join date never interested me at all, there has been a never ending slew of gamers like yourself spending too much time getting yourself worked up over something that doesnt really matter, I decided it was about time that at least 1 person with the sense to realise that a game is just a game not a matter of life and death but alas your likely too busy working up a good rant to see the logic in this.

@eroeru You forget that BW is not required by law to stick to a predetermined format based on prior releases, there is no legal requirement for BW to make DA2 and DA3 in the same mould as DAO if they wish to do a total 180 or a 720 or a 1080 its their right as the license holders.

Far to many gamers forget that buying a product merely gives them the right to play it and if unhappy with it lodge a complaint they are also generally silly enough to take the hype and marketing for granted rather than with a bucket of salt.TBH it wouldnt really matter if the thread became locked as its not the 1st time a thread with this exact title has appeared on the BSN.

My key point is this with 10 minutes or so this will no doubt get some vitriol ridden reply from one of the "DAO Hardcore" because they would rather flood the forums with bashing of DA2 and the people who enjoy it rather then calm down and move onto another game like Elder Scrolls or The Witcher 2 or such like.

[eroeru]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

My key point is this with 10 minutes or so this will no doubt get some vitriol ridden reply from one of the "DAO Hardcore" because they would rather flood the forums with bashing of DA2 and the people who enjoy it rather then calm down and move onto another game like Elder Scrolls or The Witcher 2 or such like.

And you present your key-point the exact same way - vitriol ridden...

[John Epler]

And we're done with this thread.

Although I'll admit that the concept of some of the more vocal pro posters being 'dev alts' provided me with no end of amusement.