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BioWare: Dragon Age 2 fan reaction 'caught us off-guard'


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RyuGuitarFreak

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Really? That caught them off guard besides being shown everywhere as a rushed game? Oh you...

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Anyroad2 wrote...

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Yep.. and there are great video games and lame ones. DA2 is not in the first category.


Thats totaly an opinion.

For instance... I think DA2 is a great game. Its not the best game of the last 2 years, but I found it to be pretty damn enjoyable, especially when compared to other games I've played and other games that came out in the last few years.


You really need a better game...Drakensang the true spiritual sequel to Baldur's Gate.

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Monica83 wrote...

LOL Fifa ferelden

yes i can see it now Loghains Lions vs. The Tower Templar's playing a good old game of soccer(im american deal with it).
:bandit:

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Ringo12 wrote...

Anyroad2 wrote...

RageGT wrote...

Yep.. and there are great video games and lame ones. DA2 is not in the first category.


Thats totaly an opinion.

For instance... I think DA2 is a great game. Its not the best game of the last 2 years, but I found it to be pretty damn enjoyable, especially when compared to other games I've played and other games that came out in the last few years.


You really need a better game...Drakensang the true spiritual sequel to Baldur's Gate.



Uh wow, that looks pretty horrible.
This is the game your talking about, right?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

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If a dead horse deserves to be beaten, then let the floggings begin.

How could something that's dead deserve to be beaten? It's... dead.


It might be a zombie!

DIE ZOMBIE HORSE!

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Anyroad2 wrote...
Uh wow, that looks pretty horrible.
This is the game your talking about, right?



Yes. I did say sarcastically "spiritual successor to BG" because DA is not it. It's a great rpg. Not the best mind you but still great.


This doesn't look any better imo.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Anyroad2 wrote...
Uh wow, that looks pretty horrible.
This is the game your talking about, right?



Yes. I did say sarcastically "spiritual successor to BG" because DA is not it. It's a great rpg. Not the best mind you but still great.


This doesn't look any better imo.


The statues covering their faces at the beginning should have been an indication of things to come.

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Bmeszaros wrote...

Like I did in a previous thread, I'll reiterate that, production costs down, coupled with a game selling well initially then flat lining quickly (coming off the massive acclaim the prior game received, this game should have sold better strictly based on the game's name) doesn't seem to suggest a substantial new audience picked up the game, it also doesn't jusitify a promotion for the Lead Designer in my opinion. The latter being the final straw for my decision not to purchase DA3.


It's not Bioware's fault! It's the ultimate monolith of pure evil: Gamestop!

That's right! The game sold poorly not because it was a sloppy, disjointed mess that spat in the face of their core fanbase, but because of -used games-! 

/sarcasm off

Edit- Oh, and pirates. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 05 octobre 2011 - 10:19 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...
How could something that's dead deserve to be beaten? It's... dead.

It could rise again as a zombie!

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Xewaka wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
How could something that's dead deserve to be beaten? It's... dead.

It could rise again as a zombie!


Or an aurak.

/obscure?

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Everwarden wrote...

Bmeszaros wrote...

Like I did in a previous thread, I'll reiterate that, production costs down, coupled with a game selling well initially then flat lining quickly (coming off the massive acclaim the prior game received, this game should have sold better strictly based on the game's name) doesn't seem to suggest a substantial new audience picked up the game, it also doesn't jusitify a promotion for the Lead Designer in my opinion. The latter being the final straw for my decision not to purchase DA3.


It's not Bioware's fault! It's the ultimate monolith of pure evil: Gamestop!

That's right! The game sold poorly not because it was a sloppy, disjointed mess that spat in the face of their core fanbase, but because of -used games-! 

/sarcasm off

Edit- Oh, and pirates. 



Pirates?
Come on, even I find it hard to believe anyone would want to pirate DA2 ... <_<

 ... mush less pay for a used version.

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hoorayforicecream wrote...
Or an aurak.
/obscure?

I'd say Dragonlance, but I'm not sure we're thinking the same.

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Everwarden wrote...

Bmeszaros wrote...

Like I did in a previous thread, I'll reiterate that, production costs down, coupled with a game selling well initially then flat lining quickly (coming off the massive acclaim the prior game received, this game should have sold better strictly based on the game's name) doesn't seem to suggest a substantial new audience picked up the game, it also doesn't jusitify a promotion for the Lead Designer in my opinion. The latter being the final straw for my decision not to purchase DA3.


It's not Bioware's fault! It's the ultimate monolith of pure evil: Gamestop!

That's right! The game sold poorly not because it was a sloppy, disjointed mess that spat in the face of their core fanbase, but because of -used games-! 

/sarcasm off

Edit- Oh, and pirates. 

It's kind of pathetic that you take this seriously enough to be personally insulted by a video game.

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Atakuma wrote...
It's kind of pathetic that you take this seriously enough to be personally insulted by a video game.


Hyperbole, mate. I don't take the game seriously at all, I view it as something that is gloriously bad and a lot of fun to mock. A bit like The Room, or Star Wars: Episode I. 

The insult didn't really come from the game itself (I can understand a rushed production), but the spin of the Bioware executives accusing fans of not liking the game because it's too innovative, too awesome, too much of a change from the crap that they're used to. That's ridiculous, and it's pretty clearly an insult to the angry swarm of fans. That doesn't mean I actually care on a personal level, I'm just assessing the thinly veiled intent of the statements and pointing them out. 

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KilrB wrote...
Pirates?
Come on, even I find it hard to believe anyone would want to pirate DA2 ... <_<

 ... mush less pay for a used version.


Oh, I don't know. I'd buy a used version if I found a game of the year edition of Dragon Age 2 in a Gamestop bargain bin for $1.99. 

/snickers at the thought of Dragon Age 2 winning GoTY

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Everwarden wrote...

Atakuma wrote...
It's kind of pathetic that you take this seriously enough to be personally insulted by a video game.


Hyperbole, mate. I don't take the game seriously at all, I view it as something that is gloriously bad and a lot of fun to mock. A bit like The Room, or Star Wars: Episode I. 


So you just prefer to act childishly about it.

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Morroian wrote...
So you just prefer to act childishly about it.


If that's how you want to read it, sure. I consider it some good-natured ribbing. 

In the first month after release I did a lot of sober analysis on where Dragon Age II went wrong and why it wasn't nearly as good as Origins. There isn't much left to be said on the subject other than the occasional sarcastic jibe. If you don't approve, I'm very sorry and hope no sincere offense was taken. 

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Everwarden wrote...

If that's how you want to read it, sure. I consider it some good-natured ribbing. 

In the first month after release I did a lot of sober analysis on where Dragon Age II went wrong and why it wasn't nearly as good as Origins. There isn't much left to be said on the subject other than the occasional sarcastic jibe. If you don't approve, I'm very sorry and hope no sincere offense was taken. 


No, no personal offence :D.

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I dont understand why a lot of people hated DA2...I really enjoyed playing the game and hope they keep coming out with more DLC for it.

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In fact I enjoyed playing DA2 more than I did Origins

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Will8585 wrote...

I dont understand why a lot of people hated DA2...I really enjoyed playing the game and hope they keep coming out with more DLC for it.

Will8585 wrote...

In fact I enjoyed playing DA2 more than I did Origins


I did, too, and I really love DA2, but I can understand some people complaining about things like enemies falling from the sky.

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Will8585 wrote...

I dont understand why a lot of people hated DA2...I really enjoyed playing the game and hope they keep coming out with more DLC for it.


Maybe the what 4 maybe 5 different environments.
Terrible graphics even though we were told it would great
Disconnected plot
Timeskips that provide nothing either through story or visual changes
Crafting was dumbed considerably and takes only the minimum of effort
Bioware ocntinuing first day DLC
Worst protaginost I've played in a RPG since ever
Combat while improved suffered from terrible waves and people falling from the skies
Nightmare isn't hard just longer. Just increasing health doesn't make it harder
Worst cast of characters I've ever seen I didn't care about anyone except Varric
Anders, Zevran, Nathaniel and Leliana are alive even though Origins/Awakening I killed them or was told they died. I was under the impression that the Epilogue was all knowing...apparently not.
Hawke has abolutely nothing to add to the story. If you remove Hawke the story can sitll go on and decisions do even less than in Origins.
PC users can AoE properly
No Isometric camera....because they want us to stare at the ceiling?
No SDK at least I could mod or change what I don't like in Origins
Most uninspiried game world I've ever seen. Why does ever thing use same sandpaper walls and what is with the horrible sense of scale? The Hanged Man looks tiny from outside and inside it's like 5 or 6 rooms a long hallway
Everyone is incompetent. I actually gave the Qunari leader Isabella and he can't manage to hold on to her...seriously everyone is incompetent
Magic is used as a crutch for story telling. Meredith has gone crazy because of a magic infused idol. If there is something weird going on it's obviously magic I'm still waiting for the Dark Fantasy I was promised with Origins
Bioware is continuing to nickel and dime people with overpriced DLC when they could offer it free as an incentive. Was DA2 not commercially successful?

But idk that's just me.

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I think "enjoyable" is not a proper word to define a CRPG.

Angry Birds, Plants vs Zombies, Devil May Cry can boast with just being enjoyable but a CRPG needs other traits. Plus, I didn't enjoy DA2. Combat was boring because it was repetitive, unrealistic and aimless.

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There was alot that could have been better in DA2 and if DA3 turns out to be Origins part 2 with updated graphics and new story and characters it would be a great acheivement for BioWare and some very content fans of DA.

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They may have been caught off guard by fan reaction, but they are going to be blown out of the water in regards to quality and content in a game called Skyrim.

BioWare needs to make Dragon Age with the quality and passion Skyrim is, and The Witcher 2 was.