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[The Executioner]

gammameggon wrote...

They may have been caught off guard by fan reaction, but they are going to be blown out of the water in regards to quality and content in a game called Skyrim.

BioWare needs to make Dragon Age with the quality and passion Skyrim is, and The Witcher 2 was.

If they can get even 70 percent of Skyrim in terms of the overall level of effort i would be happy. 

Modifié par The Executioner, 06 octobre 2011 - 01:32 .

[Melca36]

Will8585 wrote...

I dont understand why a lot of people hated DA2...I really enjoyed playing the game and hope they keep coming out with more DLC for it.

Its not as bad as some people claim it is but for $60 it got pretty tedious going in the same cave over and over and over and over

Enemies following out of the sky was completely assinine.

Time Gaps between Acts...etc

[Joy Divison]

Blastback wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

If a dead horse deserves to be beaten, then let the floggings begin.

How could something that's dead deserve to be beaten? It's... dead.

It might be a zombie!

DIE ZOMBIE HORSE!

That's actually pretty funny...

[Blastback]

Joy Divison wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

If a dead horse deserves to be beaten, then let the floggings begin.

How could something that's dead deserve to be beaten? It's... dead.

It might be a zombie!

DIE ZOMBIE HORSE!

That's actually pretty funny...

Yeah, I stole it from Deadpool.

I think that maybe Bioware got a bit overconfident, ME2 had a lot of diffrences from the first game but was generally even better recived.  And everything Bioware had put out has pretty much been great, except maybe Sonic. 

At the same time, given how vocal alot of us were to a number of the announced changes, I am not sure how they could be suprised that a sizable portion of thier fanbase was disapointed. 

[Everwarden]

Blastback wrote...
 I am not sure how they could be suprised that a sizable portion of thier fanbase was disapointed.  

Much like George Lucas, the praise that has been lavished upon Bioware due to previous works makes them think everything they touch is gold. Even if the core of their fanbase strongly dislikes a change, they think they know better than the people they are trying to sell the game to and stick to their guns.

By the way, no, pointing this out doesn't make me 'self entitled' (good God, fanboys love tossing that word around), I'm realistically appraising the situation. Bioware has no obligation to make a game that appeals to anyone, but at the same time they aren't -entitled- to a sale. Thus it behooves them to make a game that appeals in some way to the majority of their fans.

[Jcarlo123]

I don't think people realize how marketing works.

No one from Bioware is going to be up front and honest about the development of the game until a couple years from now when they stop making DLC for it and start working on the next project.

Right now, however, they are still making DLC for DA2 so of course they are going to try to put a positive spin on everything and pretend that the game was a huge success because they are still, technically, in the process of marketing the game. They aren't about to bad mouth it to the press and hurt sales.

Developers usually ARE honest about the process of a game's development and its flaws eventually, though. But I don't expect we will get an honest post-mortem on DA2 from anyone at Bioware until DA3 is about to be released.  And if EA really did pressure them to fit to this tight development schedule which, I think everyone knows, was too short of time to develop a game of this size--then maybe we won't hear even then as they might not want to anger EA.  We might have to wait till people who worked on the game leave Bioware for other projects before we hear anything honest.

Modifié par Jcarlo123, 06 octobre 2011 - 02:54 .

[Drasanil]

Jcarlo123 wrote...
And if EA really did pressure them to fit to this tight development schedule which, I think everyone knows, was too short of time to develop a game of this size--then maybe we won't hear even then as they might not want to anger EA.

This one isn't EA's fault, EA gave them a time-line supposedly. It was however Bioware's choice to foolishly try to reinvent the wheel with in said short deadline. If they hadn't tried to reconstruct the game from the ground up they would likely have had a much better end product.

[Texhnolyze101]

billy the squid wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Anyroad2 wrote...
Uh wow, that looks pretty horrible.
This is the game your talking about, right?

Yes. I did say sarcastically "spiritual successor to BG" because DA is not it. It's a great rpg. Not the best mind you but still great.


This doesn't look any better imo.

The statues covering their faces at the beginning should have been an indication of things to come.

lol

[the_one_54321]

Monica83 wrote...
The funny thing is that didin't realize they can't statisfate both community ..

This should have ended the thread back in page 1.

There are two sides, and each side hates what the other side loves.

[Il Divo]

Drasanil wrote...

Jcarlo123 wrote...
And if EA really did pressure them to fit to this tight development schedule which, I think everyone knows, was too short of time to develop a game of this size--then maybe we won't hear even then as they might not want to anger EA.

This one isn't EA's fault, EA gave them a time-line supposedly. It was however Bioware's choice to foolishly try to reinvent the wheel with in said short deadline. If they hadn't tried to reconstruct the game from the ground up they would likely have had a much better end product.

Honestly, if they had kept the same combat setup and graphics style, maybe add more abilities/spells, more execution animations, and a new storyline, they would have been fine. As it stands, they tried to reinvent too much while still creating an original piece of work and the result, while fun, paled in comparison to Origins.

[Joy Divison]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Bioware is continuing to nickel and dime people with overpriced DLC when they could offer it free as an incentive. Was DA2 not commercially successful?

I don't get it, how is giving away DLC supposed to change the opinion of people who didn't like the game?

Speaking for myself, if I actually got to see that the DLC did address the complaints I had about DA2, it would entice me to purchase future DLC and make me curious about DA3, something which I am not excited about at the moment.

[Romantiq]

Versago wrote...

gammameggon wrote...

They may have been caught off guard by fan reaction, but they are going to be blown out of the water in regards to quality and content in a game called Skyrim.

[b]BioWare needs to make Dragon Age with the quality and passion Skyrim is, and The Witcher 2 was.]/b] 

It already has made Skyrim-level products(Witcher is low level), many times in fact.

You should do stand up.

[Everwarden]

Versago wrote...
Good idea! That way I can publicy spread the truth about how much better DA II is over Origins and lame Witcher.

In what way is it better? It must be the paradropping enemies that explode with every button push. 

If there is any game worthy of being GOTY, DA II is it.

I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. I seriously haven't come across -anyone- who thought DAII was GoTY quality. Even the people who liked it, in my experience, haven't gone that far. 

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trollin' me: No. It doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as dozens of other, real contenders for the title. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 07 octobre 2011 - 06:28 .

[Everwarden]

Versago wrote...

That is just one of many reasons why DA II is better.

Bah. I done been trolled.

[Everwarden]

Versago wrote...
Yes it does. DA II is one of the best, if not THE best, games released this year. Very, very few games are better.

I can think of one game that is far superior in every way.