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[Harbinger of your Destiny]

string3r wrote...

The online pass is clearly for ME3's "cerberus network", not multiplayer.

Then why would they say online MULTIPLAYER pass.

[whywhywhywhy]

jreezy wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Only on BSN would we think:

Killer New Feature=multiplayer...even when we don't want it.

Trying not to but the South Africa Multiplayer ad shook me up.  I think we have to face the facts, chances are it's coming no matter what.  It certain follows the trends to fps gameplay.

I won't believe it unless BW says it themselves.

And Fozee is right, we need to move on.

Yeah but they're owned by EA.  I won't totally rule it out given the direction the gameplay is going.

Come on whywhywhywhy. We've had enough "EA is evil." statements on these forums for this year.

I never said EA is evil, I believe I had made a comment or two in a different thread about how they ran their game devs teams in the past.  But it's all irrelevant, my comment simply meant if EA believes more money will be made by including multplayer then it'll happen.  Given the direction of ME2 and ME3 and how they greatle differ in gameplay compared to me1.  And how Me1 doesn't remotely resemble the FPS genre gameplay of it's time, this leads me to believe something changed.

Whether that means BW gave up on the design and decided on the push towards shooter mechanics or EA influenced the decision to go that direction doesn't matter.  EA is a money first ran game dev house, that's the only thing I was acknowledging.  With the trends the industry follows and me2/me3 definately picked up on the "trends" how can you say that it's easy to rule out MP ?  Do you think EA would veto it ?  Are they most likely to push it if it "appears" the inclusion will draw in millions of fans ?

Regardless of what you and I think all the advertisements and videos popping up have to mean something.  If they never considered it, they certainly will now or maybe it already existed.

edit:
Also Multiplayer would offer them some incentives to buy the game new instead of used or piracy.  For those that would enjoy MP that is.  If your logging onto servers for a biotic/fragfest they they can also require reistrations and offer updates and maps.  EA's history can't be denied, given that I think it's coming they just don't want the cat out of the bag until the game is closer to launch.

heck, I'm of the opinion that the delay was to develop the ME3 MP module.   

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 04 octobre 2011 - 09:46 .

[Maike91]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

string3r wrote...

The online pass is clearly for ME3's "cerberus network", not multiplayer.

Then why would they say online MULTIPLAYER pass.

Maybe because they assume that "online" can only mean "multiplayer" ?

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Maike91 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

string3r wrote...

The online pass is clearly for ME3's "cerberus network", not multiplayer.

Then why would they say online MULTIPLAYER pass.

Maybe because they assume that "online" can only mean "multiplayer" ?

They can't be that stupid

[AdmiralCheez]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

They can't be that stupid

You'd be surprised.

Anyway, waiting patiently for official confirmation.

[Maike91]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Maike91 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

string3r wrote...

The online pass is clearly for ME3's "cerberus network", not multiplayer.

Then why would they say online MULTIPLAYER pass.

Maybe because they assume that "online" can only mean "multiplayer" ?

They can't be that stupid

Who knows 

[SnowHeart1]

Maike91 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...
They can't be that stupid

Who knows 

I was about to link a YouTube video of a Spitting Image song, but I might get banned for it for starting a nationality flame war.  Anyway, yes, I can totally see a merchant getting confused on something like that (even as much as it concerns me that it might be true).

[JamieCOTC]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

They can't be that stupid

You'd be surprised.

Anyway, waiting patiently for official confirmation.

Backwards femshep thinks this may be so. 

[Jorina Leto]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Wait, so is multiplayer 100% confirmed or not?

Neither confirmed nor denied.

[whywhywhywhy]

jreezy wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...
*snip*

I see your point. It's kind of weird that you keep referring to Mass Effect as a first-person shooter though.

I wasn't.  I said it was different then any other fps genre's gameplay as to contrast the gameplay then and now which is a lot closer to the fps genre gameplay.  In other words if you see pics or a video of ME1 you could think it was a shooter but when you play it you see it's vastly different.  Some people even mistaked it as a shooter and dogged it out as a poor shooter.

However take me2 or the me3 vids it's remarkably closer to the fps genre shooter mechanics then it was before.  They even admitted that was the goal for me2 in a interview.  And in ME3 they've been going on and on about combat.

It's moving closer and closer to being a shooter first and everything else second...


edit:
Shooters have to include MP.  This is why I feel it's a question of when and not if

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 04 octobre 2011 - 09:58 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Retailers tend to like to speak over the top and are often quick to exaggerate without bothering to get their facts straight, all for the sake of getting as many customers as possible in the shortest time. It's more than likely that they're mistaking ME3's equivalent of the Cerberus Network with multiplayer. As in, they don't realize that the word online by its lonesome doesn't constitute multiplayer.

[Vyse_Fina]

xnoxiousx wrote...

This sucks since single player will take the hit for sure. Not even joking no matter what you say making the mp will take people and well there making mp they could have made single player better or fixed issues or added more side missions and so on.

Allthough I am not in favor of multiplayer, wasn't there this multiplayer related job offer from bioware about a year ago? I could be wrong and I am too lazy to look it up, but I believe they actually hiered new people for this? (allthough you could argue that these jobs were for the old republic)
Oh well... waste of time and resources either way imho. No offense to teh people (eventually) working on the MP mode, I'm sure they are doing a good job, but it still can't be denied that it's a feature nobody needed. It's just like the Dead Space 2 Multiplayer. Nobody needed it and the game wasn't made or suited for it. Why bother?

(because people tend to keep their copy of the game a little longer with online passes and multiplayer modes resulting in less used games available for people to buy and tehrefor more new copies sold, i know... >_>)

[Selene Moonsong]

There has been no mention by the Developers that ME 3 will be a MP game. The so-called evidence people are presenting as 'proof' is just a vague as the no comments you will get from a Developer.

From the evidence I have seen presented, the only conclusion I can come to is a possibility that somewhere in the future there could be multi-player capabilities, such as in DLC, but I see no direct proof that ME 3 will be anything more than a SP game, just like ME and ME 2.

[Maike91]

SnowHeart1 wrote...

Maike91 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...
They can't be that stupid

Who knows 

I was about to link a YouTube video of a Spitting Image song, but I might get banned for it for starting a nationality flame war.  Anyway, yes, I can totally see a merchant getting confused on something like that (even as much as it concerns me that it might be true).

To be honest, when I think about an online feature in a game, I almost instantly think about multiplayer. And if the merchant doesn't care that much about the products he's selling ( which is possible), he surely can get confused.
As long as I don't hear a "Yes, there will be multiplayer in ME3" by bioware I don't really care. And even then, it won't be a reason for me to cancel my pre-order.

[whywhywhywhy]

omskman wrote...

Giorito wrote...

I fear that if MP is included in Mass Effect 3 we won't finish the story. What is there left to fight if Shepard destroys the Reapers?

The bigger Reapers.

hilarious +5 my friend +5

[Captain Crash]

Jorina Leto wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Wait, so is multiplayer 100% confirmed or not?

Neither confirmed nor denied.

As per usual with Bioware  

[Lucifer_Cheney]

I'm not a fan of multiplayer as I (like many of those who're also opposed) think it will take away from the devs focus to create an interesting story. Having said that, the MAIN issue I would have if this indeed true would be Bioware's constant denials (or lies) that it wouldn't be included. I'll save my venom for if and when they make it official.

[didymos1120]

Lucifer_Cheney wrote...

Having said that, the MAIN issue I would have if this indeed true would be Bioware's constant denials...

And those were...?   Seriously: find a quote where they actually denied it, instead of just avoided giving a definitive answer.

[100k]

string3r wrote...

The online pass is clearly for ME3's "cerberus network", not multiplayer.

:o:o:o:o:o

[shepskisaac]

whywhywhywhy wrote...
And in ME3 they've been going on and on about combat.

True, ME3 marketing have been focused on combat in 90% thus far. However:

whywhywhywhy wrote...
It's moving closer and closer to being a shooter first and everything else second...

This is the kind of arguments I hate. Why? Becuase it's a lie and I know the poster knows it as well, yet still deliberately lies to portray the game & the studio in bad light. You KNOW yourself this is simply not true. You are a big fan, you follow the news and updates. Even though the marketing's been focused on combat, you KNOW that:

- weapon mods are coming back
- leveling system is getting expanded with multiple power evolutions
- larger skill trees
- quadrilions powers
- level cap back to 60
- expanded economy
- more loot
- granades are back
- squad weapon & armor customization
- greater variety of weapons & armors
- XP system's going back to ME1, no more mission summary screens
- mission debrieefings are coming back
- party banter will be back and possibly bigger than ever
- bigger, more open & varied levels (including the Presidium on the Citadel)
- smaller squad to allow greater interaction
- greater exploration & traversal (vehicle planet exploration also possibly back)

Yes, there will still be ammo & regenerable health. But apart from these few streamlined mechanics 'surviving' from ME2, it is simply clear ME3 will be sigificantly backtracking to ME1's greater complexity in nearly every aspect. And what we've already seen (leveling & mods) proves their promises are not just empty words, they're actually implementing the changes they've promised/announced.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 04 octobre 2011 - 10:46 .

[Gorosaur]

IsaacShep wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...
And in ME3 they've been going on and on about combat.

True, ME3 marketing have been focused on combat in 90% thus far. However:

whywhywhywhy wrote...
It's moving closer and closer to being a shooter first and everything else second...

This is the kind of arguments I hate. Why? Becuase it's a lie and I know the poster knows it as well, yet still deliberately lies to portray the game & the studio in bad light. You KNOW yourself this is simply not true. You are a big fan, you follow the news and updates. Even though the marketing's been focused on combat, you KNOW that:

- weapon mods are coming back
- leveling system is getting expanded with multiple power evolutions
- larger skill trees
- quadrilions powers
- level cap back to 60
- expanded economy
- more loot
- granades are back
- squad weapon & armor customization
- greater variety of weapons & armors
- XP system's going back to ME1, no more mission summary screens
- mission debrieefings are coming back
- party banter will be back and possibly bigger than ever
- bigger, more open & varied levels (including the Presidium on the Citadel)
- smaller squad to allow greater interaction
- greater exploration & traversal (vehicle planet exploration also possibly back)

Yes, there will still be ammo & regenerable health. But apart from these few streamlined mechanics 'surviving' from ME2, it is simply clear ME3 will be sigificantly backtracking to ME1's greater complexity in nearly every aspect. And what we've already seen (leveling & mods) proves their promises are not just empty words, they're actually implementing the changes they've promised/announced.

** Animated image removed per Site Rules #2

Thank you sir for being among the few level headed people on this site. Theres fanboyism and then theres taking a step back and actually appreciating what has been done instead of calling doom and gloom for a game we know relatively nothign about.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 05 octobre 2011 - 01:18 .

[100k]

IsaacShep wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...
And in ME3 they've been going on and on about combat.

True, ME3 marketing have been focused on combat in 90% thus far. However:

whywhywhywhy wrote...
It's moving closer and closer to being a shooter first and everything else second...

This is the kind of arguments I hate. Why? Becuase it's a lie and I know the poster knows it as well, yet still deliberately lies to portray the game & the studio in bad light. You KNOW yourself this is simply not true. You are a big fan, you follow the news and updates. Even though the marketing's been focused on combat, you KNOW that:

- weapon mods are coming back
- leveling system is getting expanded with multiple power evolutions
- larger skill trees
- quadrilions powers
- level cap back to 60
- expanded economy
- more loot
- granades are back
- squad weapon & armor customization
- greater variety of weapons & armors
- XP system's going back to ME1, no more mission summary screens
- mission debrieefings are coming back
- party banter will be back and possibly bigger than ever
- bigger, more open & varied levels (including the Presidium on the Citadel)
- smaller squad to allow greater interaction
- greater exploration & traversal (vehicle planet exploration also possibly back)

Yes, there will still be ammo & regenerable health. But apart from these few streamlined mechanics 'surviving' from ME2, it is simply clear ME3 will be sigificantly backtracking to ME1's greater complexity in nearly every aspect. And what we've already seen (leveling & mods) proves their promises are not just empty words, they're actually implementing the changes they've promised/announced.

/argument.